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All of that I can agree with. If stuck in the Cognitive Realm you wouldn't be able to use Allomancy on say Sel or Roshar (without a Pipe like the IRE anyways). Yes I can agree to that. I also agree with how you say it would carry over to Allomancy. I still disagree that Feruchemy wouldn't be effected though. I think Cognitive and Spiritual metals would have their power/reaction altered by the power being in the CR vs the SR. They may not "gain" a location to Scadrial requirement like Allomancy though, for the reason you describe. My comment was specifically the geographical requirements inside Sel (Dahkor, Forgery, etc) are a product or Dominion not of being the the CR. Which is what I interpreted the OP's question to be on.

I'm on board with an additonal theory (10 Heralds = 10 Fools), that I don't think contradicts yours but maybe precedes yours differently. Basically Odium focuses on 1 Herald over the others and intentionally tries to break that Herald. (He still tortures all of them). He tries to break them in a way that breaks their prime attribute. When one breaks, a Desolation happens, when its over Odium focuses on the next Herald in line. Taln last so long not because he was a traitor or a planned champion, but because he was the last of the 10 to be targeted because Odium already suspect from previous iterations that he would hold the longest. I feel that's why the Prelude hints that "their all" broken. That does not preclude your speculation though, the outcome of the above theory could still be that Taln becomes Odium's Champion after 4.5k years of Torture. Unrelated to your theory directly, I always assumed the "man who calls himself Taln" was becasue Taln himself was also "swapped" when the Honrblade was too. I.e. real Taln showed up at the gates, and is in confinement and his Honorbalde taken. Some other "madman" who cant communicate was then sent to the Shattered planes with a Shardblade to be the "fake" Honorblade. Since Heralds aren't Surgebinders, w/o his Honorblade he has no extra powers to escape and probably still quite insane/disoriented. Also unrelated (trying not to double post - but also can't get "Quotes" to work inside an edit) I think @Extesian WoB Kind of puts to rest a bunch of other speculations that a 3rd Bondsmith bonds with an Unmade. Unless Brandon is being totally precient and sneaky knowing the question would be asked. I just don't see him behing that suprised by the question, then considering an answer, and then the answer being "possible". If the 3rd Bondsmith was meant or intended to Bond an Unmade, I have full faith that it would be already in Brandon's outline, and not a surprise question.

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Both of these require that Sel's geographic location based magic is a product of the Investiture being pushed into the Cognitive Realm. While I don't wholly disagree I think that's a bit to generalistic of a view. It ignores, or at a minimum brushes aside that the Dor is composed of Dominion. Dominion itself is a product/concept of location (specifically: sovereignty and control over locations). So the geographical requirement for Dor is likely a byproduct of that Shard not of being squished into the Cognitive Realm. I think it's more likely that the geographical nature of Dor was changed or exacerbated by being the CR ( so both things play a part in it), but definitely not the cause of the location requirement, that was Dominion itself. With that said, to answer the actual question of the OP. I don't think there would be any geographical/location requirement outcomes if Ruin and Preservation had been shoveled into the cognative realm. I do think that certain aspect of Allomancy and Feruchemy would change, the more Cognitive metals might have stronger outcomes, or be more subject to human perception/understanding, and the spiritual one may be weakened or less powerful. Even though F is investiture neutral, storing memories or other cognitive things may be effected by the fact that the investiture itself is now cognitive (i.e. stored memories maybe becoming spren like, as opposed to stored in a spiritual database.. I do agree with @Calderis that Hemalurgy would likely be unchanged.

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Mr. T ! Diagram maybe skewed by Odium to lead Mr. T to take the world where he want's it so he can win.

Bah from 2015 too!, Stupid search function. Well like i said I still subscribe to the idea of Cultivation/Nightwatcher, the other one was a harebrained thought experiment.

Yeah Im still looking for it - also looking for the WoB where he mentioned it would be 3 graphic novel volumes to = the current 1 prose volume. Not having much luck =/ Can't wait for a better WoB repository.

This is my opinion of why. Everyone on Nalthis has a breath minus the drag so can at least see the Aura. Off Nathis no one has breath so they don't see an Aura. I suspect that a Radiant might see it or an Allomancer actively burning might as well. As Brandon mentioned, multiple ways to detect it and people could if they knew what they were doing, or Hoid and Vasher do a bad job hiding it. But that does not change the fact that the average POV chara has no active investiture going at the time and so won't see it. Which is why I still agree with Calderis point - i.e. it explains the avergae population not seeing it. The WoB explains why people in the "know" might not see Hoid's Aura specifically (and probably Vasher's).

I can't seem to find it but was pretty sure it came out recently that Hoid didn't make it into V1 of the Graphic novel, but is present in V2 (the prose covers all 3 volumes, so this doesn't conflict).

So there is still no written or WoB confirmation that Nightwatcher is Cultivation or a godspren of Cultivation. I do generally subscribe to the idea that she is, as do I think most people. However, every now and then I get a wild hair up my bum and wonder if Nightwatcher is actually Odium. Mostly because the "Old magic" is always described as kind of pre Vorinism ( you could kind of take that to mean pre-radiant). The Parshendi sought out the Old Gods and Old Magic, and even the Stormfather describes it as Old and he's of Honor (which to me implies it's been there before Honor/Cultivation - thought that does argue against it being Odium). I could see Odium "luring people" away from Honor with deals that have bad outcomes/effects on their lives, and may give him a crack to exploit with future sight (i.e. Diagram). Anyways - just a wild chull idea that probably inst true, but is still fun to consider sometimes.

So I re-read White Sands 1 in prep for vol 2 in a week or so. I remember people talking about how darksiders have dark skin and daysiders have light skin contrary to what one would expect. We also have this WoB: This was 2014, and the earliest I can find "Autonomy" mentioned is 2015 (though the search function is poor on the WoB DB). We know from AU that Taldain has a white dwarf on the dark-side. We also know (suspect?) from V1 of Whitesand that it's investiture comes form the light itself on dayside. So my theory is the White dwarf on the dark side is a real star, the skin of darksides is darker because white dwarf create significantly more UV radiation that a main sequence star (real white dwarfs do make move UV). The light side star isn't actually a Star but Autonomy (Bavadin) herself. This means no UV radiation (hence light skin) Investiture that rains down in photons and would also be an "off planet" shard. This would also make it far more difficult to travel to and from the planet (except through Sand Mastery perhaps? Maybe that's why Kriss was looking for them?). Since Lightweaving was also a Yolish thing, it would make sense that Bavadin knows of it, and so could perhaps influence people through religions by light weaving her photons of Investiture so people can see what she wants them to see without her physically on the planet. (Faces in the Sky?) Summary - The dayside "star" is the actual shard of Autonomy, located in space. Thus produces no UV (only photons and heat) so light skin people, while Darkside have massive UV dose from white dwarf and their skin darkens just like earthers.

My pet theory, is something about the Shattering caused the Dragon race of Yolen to gain functional immortality, perhaps even Hoid as well. I sometimes speculate that as a possible contributing factor to desire to Shatter Adonalsium in the first place... but have nothing to back it up. This pet theory of mine covers the statement in The Letter, but does get a bit more ambiguous with the current answer, though not fully excluded since it's not a specific answer to the question (he dodged "a natural part" IMHO).

One thing I didn't see mentioned in the back and forth on tissue outcomes from ballistic projectiles was ballistic factors themselves. If a shardgun was more a spren powered rail run that provided multiple lashings as someone suggested (which IMHO is only realistic non-fabrial method), you don't have to worry about fundamentals of marksmanship, you don't have to worry about environmental factors like wind or humidity, trajectory or bullet drop, "Zeroing" at specific ranges to account for things. In fact you have 'perfect' accuracy and can shoot over and around things, but lashing directly to your target or uninvested equipment on the target. I think the force multiplier comes from the flexibility in use and perfect/customs accuracy without need for excellent marksmanship skills. Want to make him drop the shardblade? Shardgun lash the round to the targets hand. Want to prevent him from running away, target his knee.

Well Brandon had mentioned Fabriels being their own type of magic. In the end i think it's all moot as I feel that much earlier posts had already disproved this theory of mine. I was merely trying to respond to the post.

It was my theory, not a defined, resourced, canon statement. In my mind there is no reason the Surges can't be a combo of Honor and Cultivation's magic, and the "Old Magic" just be cultivation own non-mixed magic.

That's exactly how I pictured it in my theory.

Might have to ask permission, more because of publishers than Brandon. But perhaps see if you can add the actual text of all his books, so it's included with WoB Canon when searching. I can see a basic usage agreement, meaning it's not view able as a complete work, but is stored server side for search purposes and only returns relevant passage on searching. This would greatly help those without kindle versions of books when they want to search.

Anyone have any info on the halfshard shields of Jah Keved? I was thinking that maybe they are made of a Aluminum alloy and that's why the can partially withstand shardblades (blocking the investiture)..

I'm re-reading WoK and WoR in prep for Oathbringer and was looking at the Silver Kingdom map. Just noticed that all the kingdom names are either true palindromes, or phonetic palindromes. Natanatan = Nata n atan (True) Thalath = Th ala Th (Phonetic) Rishir = Ri sh ir (Phonetic) Makao'akam = Maka o' akam (True) Shin Kek Nish = Shin kek nish (True) Aimia = Ai m ia (True) Iri = Iri (True) Sela Tales = Sela t ales (True) Valhav = Va lh av (Phonetic for Roshar) Alethela = Ale th ela (Phoentic)

10 for Roshar was planned from the start: 10 Heralds, 10 RK Orders, 10 Gas Giants, 10 Kingdoms, 10 Dawn Cities Pretty sure it's just 10 and there aren't 6 more hiding. There is another WoB out there where Brandon mentioned different Shards have different "scared' numbers, but not all of them have a 'sacred' number. But I can't seem to find it at the moment. Tell your fried to make an account - I lurker for a while, it's more fun to post than lurk around here.

Just wanted to post this as relevant to the conversation. Darkness: When a darkeyed person obtains a shardblade. Does their new eye colour reflect the specific type of blade they bonded? Brandon: Yes. It's from Supernova signing, but is to long to quote. Here's the link:

I can see it being flawed, good explanation for why too. Though I still haven't seen anything address the fact that Preservation invested more into humans than Ruin did; and as far as I know Harmony couldn't "undo" that. So he has to be doing something to make Ruin and Preservation balance, because when he picked them up Ruin was still stronger because of the missing Preservation that was in all Scanrial humans. The two forces were only balanced enough for borderline containment because Preservation was locking Ruins power away in Atium to offset the imbalance.

Possibly same answer for both of them... you witness the Shattering and then possible alternate outcomes of who picked up what or how the Shards shattered (different intents).

I tried the search function and by the 8th page was losing my mind. I'm aware that dead-spren shardblades need a gemstone on the pommel to be bonded/summonable. But do we know / have we seen whether the type of gemstone has to match the type of shardblade in order to bond it? I.e. a Windrunners blade needs a Sapphire, and Edgedancer needs Diamond and so forth.