StrikerEZ

No, no, I know what the anonymous accounts are. I've played several anonymous games. I've been around for almost a decade. What I meant was I wasn't sure what that had to do with making reads of other players.

I genuinely have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

Elims, the both of you. Zero doubt in my mind there.

Ah yes, the most reasonable way to form a read on someone: based off their profile picture.

¿Por qué?

The rules say either 1 or 2, depending on player count. I’m saying I think we’re starting at 4, and only going to have the potential for one conversion.

Now what are the odds that you've actually done this as an elim, expecting us to not take you seriously? To be real though, even if you've done this, I genuinely don't expect the elims to only have 3 players. That would only be ~17% of the playerbase, which is way too low. 4 MetaElims is at least ~22%.

Hence the mind games Hmm. Only a MetaElim would think of things in terms of bets. I know you weren't asking me, but I felt the need to answer anyway. This would entirely depend on who my teammates are and what we think are our odds are of winning depending on the various possibilities for who would be our elim(s) and villager(s) in the PseudoGame. Like, if I was a MetaElim with TJ and Araris I would definitely want to try gambits, which would lead me towards betting on a PseudoElim win I think.

Just because you think it's much better for them to do that doesn't mean that they for sure will. They might disagree with you and therefore take a different course of action. or just do things differently just because.

Yes. It’s an insane series of mind games.

Yes that is exactly what could happen. Okay. The way you said it sounded like you were saying they got both either way. And even rereading it with your apparent intent in mind, it still reads that way to me.

I think you're misunderstanding the rules. The MetaElims only get the conversion if they win the bet. If they lose the bet, they don't get the conversion and instead get half their living players revealed.

There's no execution this cycle, right? This is sort of a limbo cycle where we're just testing the waters and waiting for the MetaElims to make their bet. Basically, the MetaElims are trying to bet on their ability to rig the outcome of the PseudoGame. They don't know which of them are going to be PseudoVillagers or PseudoElims yet. So, let's say, for example, that our MetaElims were Alvron, Striker, DrakeMarshall, and Amanuensis. All of these players are known for doing gambits or silly stuff, and might want to bank on their ability to do gambits to ensure an elim win in the PseudoGame. Or, maybe the MetaElims were Kasimir, Stick, Burnt Spaghetti, and TJ. They have a lot of players that are good at solving as villagers and might want to bet that a couple of them will become PseudoVillagers and use their reputation as good solvers to steer the PseudoGame towards a PseudoVillage win. If the MetaElims win their bet, then they get a conversion in the MetaGame. If they lose their bet, half of the living MetaElims get revealed in the writeup after the PseudoGame ends. As an example, let's say MetaElim Team #2 (Kasimir, Stick, Burnt Spaghetti, and TJ) bet on the PseudoVillage winning the PseudoGame. Instead, the PseudoElims win. Let's say that all of them are still alive in the MetaGame at that point. Now, on the next MetaGame cycle, two of them get revealed as MetaElims to the entire thread. So now they're severely handicapped in the rest of the MetaGame. So the MetaElims really want to be careful about what bet they make here. And the MetaVillagers, in response, want to be on the lookout for if the PseudoGame seems to be going too well in one direction or the other. Some of us MetaVillagers will be PseudoElims. And, depending on what we think the MetaElims bet on, we might want to throw the game as PseudoElims to make sure that the PseduoVillage wins the PseudoGame, therefore making the MetaElims lose their bet. There's so many layers of plotting and scheming going on here, so I'm quite excited to see what craziness we all get up to. EDIT: made a little fix where I mixed up Pseudo vs Meta

The answer is that it wouldn’t.

I think Qian was asking if they could be signed up twice.

Me too! And hopefully we aren’t traitors against each other.

Ah I didn’t realize we’d changed that. That’s fine with me then, you can put me down for just one. I’ve got like 2 or 3 LGs I haven’t run yet, but I’ll just wait until a few more people have signed up and add another slot.

Yeah the list is pretty long, but you have to remember that a lot people just…won’t run a game when they hit the top of the list. Life happens. Oftentimes the person running a game will be like #4-6 on the list. Occasionally #2-3. Very rarely is it ever #1. You’re better off signing up now and just passing later if you hit #1 at a bad time. Because then you can just log on whenever you are free and grab a game if you want. EDIT: Oh, speaking of, for some reason I don’t have a slot on the LG list. Can I get two of those? @Jo and the Bush @The Unknown Medallion @Araris Valerian @|TJ| Since y’all are the more active mods right now.

Is that a signup?

To be fair, just because we're old doesn't mean we're inherently great players. I'm incredibly weak as a villager even though I've been doing this for almost a decade now.

I’d call this poggers. It’s been a bit since we last played together TJ. There’s another mini-CadCom????

Oh yeah. I should actually congratulate @CadCom for that. So belated congrats bro, that’s awesome!

What do you MEAN you have twins???

The next game can be found here: It is definitely very complicated, but if you’ve at least played mafia with roles before, you could probably figure it out anyway. Up to you though! It’ll just be awhile before a simpler game gets run probably.

No they are not. I'm not TUM, but I'm actually starting to understand the rules.