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That's why I'm not 100% sure I'm not reading in what I want to read in for a simple adjective; however, in the vision where Dalinar witnesses the Recreance for the first time in TWoK, he notices that the Shardblades summoned and then abandoned by the Radiants "glowed softly in a way his own Shardblade never had", though immediately "their light started to fade" as a terrible feeling of tragedy came over him; by the time the soldiers from Feverstone Keep had emerged to claim the abandoned Shards, "the glow from within the weapons had completely vanished". So while dead Shardblades reflect light, they do not ever radiate it themselves - and for a Shardblade to be "brilliant" as it cuts through a door's lock, well, that sure sounds like it's glowing. And Shallan wasn't surprised by that, suggesting it's been the case for a while.
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True, true. Interesting
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An interesting question, and I don't know the answer to that. Cosmere Realmatically speaking, by "soul" I mean a footprint in the Spiritual Realm - i.e., that which would serve as a template for Stormlight healing. Do spren have that? They are mini-splinters of Investiture to the degree that they are sapient, but are lacking in a Phyiscal presence without a Nahel bond, we don't know what that implies about the Spiritual Realm. Thought experiment/counter-question then: Ashravan, the eponymous Emperor of The Emperor's Soul... (Spoilered since this is technically a Stormlight sub-forum, yeah?) --
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Yeah, this is the crux of it; used as a filter for incoming Stormlight, the metal is modifying the spren's Cogntive Self (as a Cognitive Entity to begin with). The Physical metals (pewter, tin, iron, steel) probably have no effect for a spren's functioning in a fabrial, nor even copper or bronze. I joked about gold or electrum, but I suspect those require a Spiritual self to work and a spren wouldn't have that.
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Not sure if the "external physical metals" would have a property affecting a spren - it makes sense for the emotional ones to do so. And what would gold wiring do for a spren, then? LOL
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And Adolin's Shardblade, as he cut through the lock to enter the room with Shallan and Ialai, was "brilliant". Glowing. ... (More) alive?
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When he arrives to help Shallan with Ialai, his Shardblade is "brilliant" and he is described as carrying infused spheres. He did have a Lightweaving illusion put on him by Shallan, so perhaps the spheres were meant to feed that (or maybe he just liked having money on him); but it sure sounds like Maya is... Glowing?
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So Chapter 7's intro states that zinc (rioting) = excites the spren (it manifests "more strongly"), and brass (soothing) = calms the spren (causes it to "dim"). Hmm. HMMMM
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Bloodmakers or Surgebinders getting Jacked
robardin replied to MasterK-Bob's question in Cosmere Q&A
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Why would tapping a zincmind help in controlling koloss? All you need is sufficient Allomantic strength in Pushing or Pulling on their emotions. TLR could do it all on his own; a Vin or Kelsier era Mistborn could do it with duralumin + brass or zinc; and as TLR himself wrote on one of the plaques, multiple Mistings (Soothers or Rioters) working in concert could do it if they pushed on the same koloss together. It's not like you have to work out a puzzle to do it (where mental speed would help), it's purely a matter of the strength of the Allomantic Push/Pull force brought to bear on the koloss. I guess the same is true for seizing control of a kandra. So for their sake, I hope that last bit was left ouf of the Words of Founding, or some large enough team of Soothers or Rioters from the Set (perhaps not a mixed team, as Pushing may cancel out Pulling) could not just take out but take over MeLaan the way that Vin did with TenSoon against Zane.
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The only savant we saw end up like that was Spook when he spent too much time constantly flaring his tin - when he extinguished it, he was sensorily numb. And so what is the "withdrawal effect" of extinguishing one's bronze, after constantly flaring it all the time? Maybe an inability to make use of one's normal sensory input? Like, your eyes and ears work normally, but integrating the information they present to you becomes extremely difficult? Copperclouds would probably be a prime candidate for savantism, as Smokers likely walk around quite a bit with their copper on low, just to avoid emotional Allomancy. So a copper savant who extinguished the metal becomes... What? Super-susceptible to Breeze's Soothing? LOL
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Drawing on the mists, the very body of Preservation, to fuel Allomancy was a special, near-unto-and-chosen-by-Preservation thing with Vin, being a proto-Vessel if you will, and not something your general Allomancer could do. Not even another full or lerasium Mistborn like Elend was. So it's a bit like asking what it would be like to use duralumin while holding the power of the Well of Ascension. The answer is, well, I guess it'd get burned up, sure, but otherwise it'd be like continuing to paddle a canoe after you've already gone over the edge of Niagara Falls in it. (And her actually fully Ascending by the end of that battle - and disappearing entirely from the Physical Realm just before offing Marsh - would be hitting the bottom of the Falls.)
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Well there are two parts to that, yeah? The Southerners (as I'll call them) wouldn't know anything about The Lord Ruler and his Final Empire anyway, so no, he didn't need to present himself as TLR to them. What would be the point? But everything that made Wax and Co. think the Sovereign was a Reformed Rashek does seem like it was specifically planted there as suggestions to any Northerners who eventually learned of the temple and its place in Southerner Medallion technology to think of TLR. "[The Sovereign] told us he came from [the Northern Hemisphere], where he had been a king and a god". Well Kelsier was indeed revered as a god, but he never ruled as a king - why say that to them, except to ensure that when Northerners eventually heard that, they'd think of TLR and nobody else? According to Wax and Marasi, the legends of the Lord Ruler's own metalminds, that he'd worn as arm bracers and that Vin Pushed out of the palace window, being something that would grant all Metalborn powers are supposed to date back to right after the Catacendre (basically after the Words of Founding revealed stuff like the nature of Rashek's powers). Possibly even a little before. ...And The Sovereign took pains to describe the artifact that he would leave at his secret and remote Temple, guarded by his most trusted priests, would look like metal bracers worn on the upper arms. Presumably he walked around wearing them while doing his Sovereigning, so that the iconography of the "false bands" around the empty display stand would work. Yet, the whole pun about them being "bands" (like arm bands) vs. simply being entwined "bands" of metal joined together in a single large object (the spearhead) is probably only a pun in the language of The Final Empire and the Era 2 Northern Hemisphere that derived from it. Allik and the other Southerners would just think "ah, it was just another little test of misdirection such as The Sovereign was fond of", but it's Marasi who would have the face-palming moment of Bands... wait, THOSE are the bands! Oh Preservation, he seeded that dad joke 350 years ago?. And what else would the WoB mean, about the coppermind medallion/coin that Hoid gave to Wax revealing information that Kelsier "did not want to get out", except that Kelsier had engineered all of that to cover up his tracks (with the most obvious, perhaps only, person who might be expected to have access to all the Metalborn powers being The Lord Ruler)?
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Yeah I'm gonna go with the writerly over the in-world reason I think it's unlikely for Adolin and Shallan to be new parents at this point of their lives: it'd completely overburden the narrative. Especially Shallan's narrative, when she's already got a LOT of mental and emotional challenges from different sources to deal with, when ultimately those are "character depth" areas and not "move the plot" storylines. Go too far in that direction, to sidebar the major story arc in order to explore character POVs in depth, and you end up with material that is like 70% of what infuriated fans of The Wheel of Time in books 7-10. And Sanderson is an "outliner writer" in part to try to avoid that kind of excursion spiral. (That is, unless there actually IS a plot reason for Shallan to be a new mother right now, similar to how I foresee that Oroden almost certainly has more planned for him than being a background "emotional filler character" for Kaladin. Even if that doesn't come to fruition until the "back five" set of Stormlight books. We do have only six chapters so far of a very large book to go by, after all.)
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Runner-Fu? The use of arcane powers during unarmed combat
robardin replied to Oltux72's topic in Cosmere Discussion
In addition to a Windrunner having to practice a lot (which sounds awful) to Lash specific parts of a living being in opposite directions, it'd be even harder to try to do that in combat because you'd have to touch your opponent at least twice to be able to do it, and most likely sequentially. As you Lashed (say) a hand to go in one direction, your opponent would start feeling that effect and probably be more keen on keeping you away (especially if this became a known technique), perhaps even fleeing until the effect wore off. Unless you conceived of a maneuver where you simultaneously Lashed to the left with your left hand and to the right with your right hand... But now that exposes you completely to your opponent as you do so. It feels like something that'd be less of a hand-to-hand combat strategy for a Windrunner, and more of some kind of spectacular means of execution of someone who couldn't avoid it (totally not a Windrunner's metier). Oh, and as to the OP's idea of a Windrunner doing this in combat against a Fused, that'd be even harder to do because they'd be Invested with Voidlight, and it would require a lot of Stormlight to Lash them, right? (Just like one can't Lash Shardplate - it's probably not "can't do it at all" so much as "would require stupid levels of effort") -
It's an interesting thought, but given that the time skip is only about a year (less than two years), I can't see Adolin and Shallan / Veil / Radiant going on a mission to infiltrate Ialai's organization (whatever it is) with a newborn at home. On the other hand it certainly would be one reason to skip forward 1+ years in the narrative between OB and RoW.
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Suggestion: Remember the Chull Drivers!
robardin replied to Michael Portz's topic in Cosmere Discussion
They already have an "aluminum clutch" to uncouple and re-couple the "power train" for directionality... I wonder if the next step would be to develop some kind of "fabrial gearing" to add magical leverage to the whole affair, and/or to smooth out the effort involved for rapid changes in direction, elevation, or speed. Even without mechanical or fabrial gearing, there are Surges that would help here, too. If Rock is a Windrunner who doesn't fight, why not have him stay in Urithiru and help to move those fabrial platforms with Lashes? If making the barge move around is a matter of making the fabrial-linked platform on the other side go in the opposite direction (with some "power loss"), then multiply Lashing the platform down or up would surely speed things up for the barge, right? Maybe he'd only do that in an emergency situation, but when a flight of Heavenly Ones appear on the horizon - this time with a mission to capture or destroy the Fourth Bridge - their suddenly seeing it go from "a bit faster than a ship can sail" to it "flying off as quickly as a Windrunner could go" would be pretty astonishing.- 9 replies
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Edgedancer Chapter 6, first page
robardin replied to Hoid the Former Drifter's topic in Stormlight Archive
This was "translated", I know, but the original words spoken by the "GLG" are worthy of note. Foreshadowing Lift's Third Ideal, of course. -
Well on the subject of grappling hooks, can Reverse Lashings be used more effectively? We've seen Kaladin apply Basic Lashings multiple times on something (including himself) to make it go faster or with greater force for the distance; so could he infuse something with a Reverse Lashing, like he did with the bridge to attract Parshendi arrows towards it, but something loose (like tent tarpaulin) instead of hard like the bridge was; and then a Basic Lashing to aim it at a Fused? How long would the Reverse Lashing have a "sticky" or suction-like property? Ooh, I replied before reading further down that your reply to the same post had much the same idea!
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He was petty, he was spiteful, he went along with authority figures he despised, but he also hated himself for being and acting the way that he did as a bridge sergeant. That's very Lightweaver-esque. Do we know if Shallan has ever done one of her Transforming sketches of Gaz? I don't remember now.
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I was wondering about the mention of "different types of metal" as well... I actually missed that detail about the Ghostbloods and Ialai in my first read-through, and the linking of Kaladin's discomfort with "doing nothing" being potentially tied to his block to the Fourth Oath. Nice. I thought the "loud humming" when she got through Sigzil's defenses was likely satisfaction, or whatever more destructive Odium-flavored Rhythm would match. The fact that she didn't do so later with Kaladin, I think, speaks somewhat to the burgeoning frenemy thing going on there. And yes, I totally think Navani seeing into Shadesmar and hearing that tone where Rushu doesn't appear to do so, is suggestive of something developing with Navani. You know what I'm talking about.
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Not more fuzzy, I'd say, but in fact more distinct. She's more fully compartmentalizing her personas into roles that they're good at. Veil is more suspicious and analyzing of people's hidden motives, because she's the ruthless and scheming side of Shallan herself - having Veil "sift over" her memories from before she fully formed the Veil persona is pretty useful. And she's continuing to develop these roles internally - they can work together (or argue with each other...) "in her head" fluidly and in real time, she does't have to flip out a sketchpad to take on their forms, and hasn't in some time. I just hope Veil doesn't ever turn on Radiant...
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Ah the video readings aloud of portions of Ch 7/8 from back in July? I didn't click on that because I figured, why would I want to hear that before reading anything from Ch 1-6? I still haven't clicked on it because I don't like being read to, I prefer the voices in my own head. (That came out wrong, or maybe it came out too accurately?) So I'll find out next Tuesday, I guess!
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Yeah, I immediatley picked up on this too. As well as Navani apparently briefly seeing into Shadesmar when Dalinar opens the perpendicularity, which Rushu does not, who also doesn't appear to hear the tone that she does (she doesn't mention it as part of what she experiences, only "a pulse, a powerful thump. For a moment I felt as if I were falling into eternity…"). Hmm. Well Odium is many things, but a liar he is not, eh? The listeners also demonstrated an ethic of battlefield honor, even after the Alethi (Sadeas) brutally slaughtered every single one who had surrendered to him after an early battle. You might say the Heavenly Ones appear to be the most like the "Original Singers" of the Fused. Now, what the heck was Moash doing at this battle? He didn't fight, and immediately retreated from sight when spotted. Is he being used as bait to draw out Bridge Four? But as stated, that's not the M.O. of the Heavenly Ones that we've seen.
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It's not atium making the shadow, it's that burning atium grants you "future vision" the way that Ruin can see it. (While apparently also giving you the predilection to maybe Ruin something with that information, why not.) The Cosmere version of "the future" is a free-will/non-determinate one, i.e., that last minute choices can cause timelines to fork off and split (as how Vin managed to defeat Zane), as well as a probabilistic one (as with how every vision of the future in Oathbringer predicted and confirmed Dalinar's ultimately falling to The Thrill). The higher you flare the atium burn, the further into the future you can see and understand at the same time. A lerasium Mistborn using duralumin and atium, as Elend did at the end to use it all up, can even see directly into the Spiritual Realm and... UNDERSTAND. (I always wondered, shouldn't that have very temporarily made him a kind of Splinter of Ruin?)
