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Shucks! It was SUCH a great plan xD I'm sure he's working on a way to logic the computer into giving it to him though >.>

Pretty much this. --- However, Brandon's answer and the wording of the question does make one speculate if any of the Returned in Warbreaker are not originally from Nalthis. I think we'd need a more specific question asked, unless it's been asked already. I don't know any WoBs about it off the top of my head though.

I don't think I'm explaining myself very well, so I'm pretty much sitting here looking like an idiot. I'll just duck out of the conversation for now.

I meant spiking the Vessel carrying the Shard, specifically. Could a Vessel be killed in a way that imbued their powers into a hemalurgic spike? Not necessarily the magics from the planets, but the essense of their powers? There's just so much about hemalurgy we don't know. Does it only work to transfer powers from magic systems establish on planets by Shards? Hoid has powers that pre-date the Shattering, are those susceptible? My poor brain.

*slides gracefully into church, looks around* Nope, no one here. *slides Kay's WorldCon ticket into my pocket* That there is just a bit o' paper. What with fancy writing on it, but I am doing a favor not making her run around all weekend in a corset. This should be a fair trade. And no driving in it neither. *places a bus pass on the table in exchange, then saunters off* ------ <sigh> LOL if only it were that easy ;D

That was always my thought. He may have kept colored chalks on him as well, during the day. During his nights with Siri they aren't mentioned as they aren't needed... Could be.

OMG the Luke & Laura drama... my mother went on and on about that for YEARS. Apparently it was THE biggest thing to happen other than Princess Di and Prince Charles' wedding. <insert eyeroll here> Oh, and I remember Kendall in AMC -very- clearly. Man I hated her. LOL Okay... I can "see" it coming together now. Perhaps the party is camping-style?, says my brain. My brother and I used to do that, pop a tent in the backyard and grandma's house, and invite friends over to sleep outside. Could explain why nobody is inside reacting to Baxter's shenanigans. Not they're they're camping/sleeping outside, but if the party style was like that, could be why they're STILL out there even at 1am. and also, FIRE. yay fire! I like fire. I could be a Hoosier if I wasn't so un-Hoosiery. But yeah, ok, they're outside... a nudge with verbal or visual clues could help readers latch on to that easier. I went back and re-read a bit, and Baxter did hear a voice from the backyard, but it seemed to be Kim's voice, and I didn't really interpret that as the entire party was out there, as all the houselights, including the kiddo's bedroom light, was on. I think I assumed everyone was up, but in the house.

Totally off topic but BLAIR! Man I loved her. I was watching an episode of Castle recently and THERE SHE WAS. I was like, You got old My mom watched ALL of ABCs soaps, so I've seen a lot of all of them too. Anyway, back on topic... Good to know Evan has a role, and that we will see him emerge earlier. Part of my paranoid side thinks he's some made up entity Kim's using to torment poor Baxter with. And tension is good but drama > melodrama. If they're going to fight, and they should and can, make it plot-relevant. Each of their fights should reveal *something* to the readers, other that just a smattering of language and pop culture references. Oh, speaking of which... there area LOT of references. Not that *I* mind, I get them (move over She-Ra! hahahaha), but if the book does get published, you have to consider how that could translate to a foreign market. Fixing up a random quippy reference now and then is good, but when half the dialogue in the first 5 chapters needs to be adjusted for a new audience, not sure if editors will want to do that or not. I'm not saying change your style. It works. It is what it is. But, it is definitely something to think about. Asian markets like sci-fi type stuff, so, you never know I'm still not sure my mind believes Evan and the 4 girls are in the back yard. Baxter arrives at 1am... none of the neighbors care a party is going that late? It would need some fantastic lighting, and children's voices CARRY lolol. It also took me by surprise it was Sam's birthday. I was originally under the impression it was the 4th of July. Either way, the scene was set to be very full and it's just odd that not a single person seemed to notice what Baxter was doing except Kim, who was in dialogue with him. Gah, I'm just nitpicking. You should see me tear apart crime-TV dramas xD I'm as bad as CinemaSins. bwahahaha

I could get on board with this... if we can speculate that Adolnasium knew of the Shattering in advance. Was it aware of its impending demise? Did Hoid warn Adolnasium of plans to Shatter it? Rayse and Hoid used to be friends, was Hoid part of the planning to Shatter, and then turned away from this path and now hates Rayse for his part in it? Is the Moon Sceptre needed to find the beads in Shadesmar (to find the right bit(s)) and use them on some other planet or through a different application of magic than is available on Roshar? I will have to read more to find if there are already WoBs or answers to my questions but with the info I currently have, these are good questions for me.

So, I just finished read all 5 chapters and I’m very mixed up right now. Since this is the thread for chapter 4/5 I’ll start there (and with the characters and impressions in general), but some of my comments will likely come from spilling over my thoughts of the pieces as a whole as well. Baxter… is a very sympathetic character to me. I think more so for me than other readers perhaps because I also suffer from mental illness. I *understand*. That being said, Kim having worked in a behavioral unit for a bit… that will not give her the understanding we’re seeing here. What we are seeing in Kim is YEARS of dealing with Baxter’s illness from close range. THIS is why she brings him coffee in the morning, as well as a list of things to replace. Trying to force responsibility for promises is a coping mechanism that many people who deal with the mentally ill end up with. This is why she insists on keeping him in Sam’s life. Instead of referencing a few months of work in an area of a hospital that you actually have to be trained well to work in, I’d reference their past history. I actually have a much harder time liking Kim, or truly understanding why Baxter puts up with her. Yes, he’s intoxicated by her sex… sorry not enough for me. I’ve been in relationships like this (abusive to a point, but I stayed for the sex). They do not last this many years without some stronger underlying reason. Yes, I realize they broke up 6 months ago. But we don’t know why. All we see here is that they aren’t any different from the first chapter in terms of bond, growth, interaction and feelings. Kim can say she’s engaged to someone else, but their relationship is identical to chapter 1, so I don’t buy it at all. Especially since we haven’t even SEEN this other guy – and he was supposed to have stayed the night. So where is he during the shouting match and destruction the night before? Did he seriously wake up, drive off, knowing Baxter’s car is just sitting there… Super dose of melatonin and an early day at work stop him from caring about his new “family”? Last night was he sitting quietly in the pantry, watching and too scared to get involved? Huddled under Sam’s bed cradling a My Little Pony stuffed toy and crying for his mommy? (ok that last one made me laugh so hard I can IMAGINE it). Readers like to know what’s going on. We don’t get his PoV, but Kim doesn’t even seem to mention his whereabouts other than “he’s here somewhere” with an implication of “please behave”, though Baxter doesn’t behave… and Evan’s presence… Meaningless. So why point it out to Baxter if it meant nothing? I’m also very confused about the magic system. Perhaps Baxter’s voices can help give us exposition about it in the way of random quips to Baxter. I don’t know anything about his powers other than he can listen to the universe. That doesn’t directly translate to controlling minds or making things appear from nowhere. If this is the chapter where those things are brought to the reader’s attention, then they should be explained to us somehow... not just willingly accepted in stride and brushed off by the main characters. Since this is fantasy, I am really hoping we see more fantasy in it. I was enamored with the door. The portal. The mysterious being with ominous warning. The first chapter made me want to keep reading, to dive into the mystery. I opened the next file and then… felt like I was being forced to watch an All My Children vs. 8 Mile mashup. The characters are so well developed that unless these scenes are rife with foreshadowing and plot they feel almost… unworthy of following that first brilliant bit with the portal. Each paragraph I read I was waiting for the ghost to pop back up. Or for a random bit of door memory to blip in Baxter’s mind, or even for him to repeat his mantra, even just once, and wonder where the hell that came from. As a reader who got a promise of door portal fantasy plot in chapter one, I feel a bit gypped at this point. I’m looking forward to your next submission – they really ARE well written – hoping that we get more of the door portal plot going forward. And if there is foreshadowing and plot going on, it’s too subtle for my poor brain. But then, I’m the one who’s ALWAYS surprised by surprise endings, so that’s probably a limitation on my part and not yours. Sorry, I hope it doesn’t sound like I’m negative. I’m not. Your prose is good, your dialog is good. The pacing is good as well, for the story we get to see. I just can’t shake the feeling we’re seeing the wrong story in chapters 2-5. I feel as confused and disoriented as poor Baxter. Plus side, I really love Baxter But then, I’m just as broken, LOL. Ah, my characterized soul mate, I’ve found you at last <3

I'm fairly certain they're all deliberate. Wayne is the smartest person in those books (nah, I'm not biased at all xD). I want to see him go toe-to-toe with Jasnah. I'd PAY to watch that. As a warm-up, sparring with Shallan for giggles. Ewww, wait till after? Welp, I better get saving and cross my fingers I can make it work. Plus side, I probably won't have to spring for hotel or anything, the commute wouldn't be so bad.

You forgot the spoiler tags! What if the babies in the forum haven't seen this movie yet xD ​ That being said, yes! I'm excited. But, I got your email so I am going to read first while all my new plotting germinates in my brain for a bit.

But, all I have is this nifty stick what squirts ink from the end if you scratch paper with it! Does being a volunteer not dock some of the cost? It did at GenCon. Hmmm. Dangit, I REALLY need to get to that con! And yes! I love this theory. Even though the part of it that describes Wayne so perfectly has been all but debunked on Earth, I think it still fits. Scadrial isn't Earth. I think Wayne himself would argue FOR Linguistic Relativity. In fact, I think during parts of his conversations he has, in some way. I would have to run off to find quotes, which I can't do atm, but I will try to remember to do so at some point

Do you deliver? If not, at least share the recipe xD

​Just came across this thread and post, and I don't know any WoBs that may answer this but.... Can a Shard's power be taken from them hemalurgically and transferred to some other entity (human, another Shard, etc)? Like, is a Vessel was killed with a spike, would that spike be imbued with the power of the Shard? Sorry if these are stupid questions, they just popped into my mind while reading this and I was curious.

​Totally saw that in theatres xD My boyfriend laughs at that. He just turned 21 in December <blush> EDIT (to avoid a double post, though it's not at all related to my above comment): I'VE DONE IT!!!! I've figured it out completely-ish. I have turned a plot device into a character. Well, she was always, technically, a character, but now she's a PoV character who will actively participate in the book instead of being a passive, in the background, end-of-book requirement thing. I'm incredibly excited. Through her I can show a completely different aspect of my worldbuilding, as well as the magic system (which common folks like my 2 mains don't know about, due to the nature of how magic is guarded and used in this world). I've just spent the last couple hours figuring out her plot a bit and I can definitely weave it in to the side of the book that shows the bigger picture - AND - have moments of crossover between that side of the book and the side with my 2 mains. Tension! Excitement! Plot! My stream-of-consciousness synopsis writing has just filled in MAJOR gaps in the center of the book that will CLEARLY take the hook to the resolution. I'm so beside myself we're holding hands and rubbing shoulders!

Oh! No I'm sorry, I was responding to Marci's concerns and didn't even THINK my comments could have been applied to your own. My bad! I should have at least partially quoted her or included her name. My apologies for the confusion!

​It's actually not that bad, getting in and out of the US if you go through airports. Especially getting in; I've literally walked through customs without having to talk to anyone except one guy who looked at the passport and was like, welcome back. I would assume ship-ports while in a group of cruise people would be even easier. When I was backpacking Asia with a group/guide getting through borders was a piece of cake. I literally walked into Vietnam from Cambodia. Getting on and off a cruise ship should be easy peasy.

I just found this thread and this post. It's my new favorite thing in the cosmere.

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Oooooooooooooh. Now that would be awesome. I'll check out the volunteering. I was a volunteer at GenCon one of the years I went and it was fun. EDIT: p.s. May I be the caretaker of Wayne's Linguistic Relativity?

Well I'm excited to read about him, though sad I've missed the first 5 chapters. Hopefully I'll catch on I've been reading the critiques on the board and all the stories seem fascinating based on the tidbits I've gotten to learn about that way lol

I used to live in Colorado and made some friends in Kansas, near the KC side. I used to be part of a global club that is pure geek, and that region is rife with it for sure lolol it'll be nice. I prefer geek culture to this quasi-hipster world I'm tapped in currently. Once I'm in my uhaul... as Ruin one said, "I'M FREEEEEEEEEEE"