DrakeMarshall

i need to learn my lesson already smh every other cycle in the game i tried to exe an evil but that one cycle enough people followed me was a misex and i was the only village voting for it you dont always think it be like that but it do hey @Archer not that I would ever do something as meanieface as blackmail myself but in the abstract i suppose i might see my way to suggesting something for you for the good of the village of course and that is thinking about secondary targets maybe the name that comes up after the in that same message or maybe the one after the , the one you sent that is think about the sort of things we schemed about in our pm maybe and about consequences i trust you though do what you want i would never just make up a bunch of stuff about our pm and send it to confuse the elims that would be silly dannex we had a pm too i am very very offend in our pm i asked to know what you said to archer though so it is fine i guess uhhh the only name that appears in our pm is mat though so we cant really do the same thing as with archer least not the exact same thing hypothetically if you are a meanieface with blackmail just do what you want and im sure you can figure something out if you need to communicate it Edit: Okay Guys I Have A New Idea Though Relating To The Fact That Blackmail Is Mean And We Are Not Mean We Are People Who Like Cubes What If We The Village Do Not Blackmail Anyone Do You Want To Know Why

alright i just finished trying bip you are forgiven ok

maybe i will try ok

me too i like cubes you must like them too since you put them in your coffee coffee you drink as you prove me wrong about the game i am offend, bip i am offend

Yes, I completely understand Question: how do you feel about compound words and hyphens

Now now, lets not be hasty. I’m sure Matrim has a perfectly reasonable explanation for last cycle. I’ll have you know Matrim has been an active and contributing player and I think we should really hear them out before jumping to any conclusions we can’t take back, you know? Yes

Matrim, I hope you know from the bottom of my heart that I would never blackmail you I think our mutual trust and admiration is far too great to allow this, and I am sincerely very hurt that you would ever have doubted me. Besides, I am far too honorable to ever stoop to something as dirty and underhanded as blackmailing an opponent. The fact that I am in every way honorable is well-known and not disputed by anyone. Or anyone alive at least but you can’t win them all. Of course I do not have blackmail, and if I did it definitely would not even cross my mind to use it on you.

Well well well well well well well well well!! This simplifies things And makes them more complicated, because I thought the game was still running because a village vote manip came through for us, but in reality it is due to a Kandra taking over one of the eliminators. And you guys just figured out that all of you can be online at the end of the cycle to put in kill orders

Hey look im online Well hopefully this doesn’t all blow up

It's not often people invite me to make a probably gigantic post spitting out all my thoughts, you know? Still I will seek to have mercy on you all and be concise, or at least as concise as I am capable of being whilst running on approximately 2 hours of sleep and a cup of mocha. I could probably make a couple extra boxings splitting it into many posts, but I'd rather have all of this in one place and posted immediately. I've already waited longer in the cycle than I wanted to post this. I warn you, there is a reason I sat on some of this. Some of it could help the eliminators. But I'm hoping it will help the village more. I need help making sense of all of this tbh. Part 1: Role Analysis Thankfully, I may omit all analysis on now dead players. Ashbringer - ??? Biplet - Confirmed Thug, which I kinda did not expect given how they reacted to the whole being threatened thing. Definitely not a Thief, probably not a Hazekiller or Investigator, but quite potentially a ferring of some kind. Szeth_Pancakes - Nicroburst + Subsumer Twinborn. I was able to confirm the former role D1. Lotus also had an anti-roleblock power, and I somewhat doubt the eliminators would need a second one of those, which is a slight point in Szeth's favor. On the flip side, while I don't take it personally that they stopped Nicrobursting me after our deal fell through, I am kind of curious what the heck they have been doing with their ability for the last few cycles since I've never heard any villagers report getting helped by Szeth. Matrim's Dice - Confirmed Thief. Will by now have also implanted a charged spike with a random unknown ability. It is mechanically possible that Matrim is concealing a second role they started out with, although my gut says Matrim was telling the truth about this particular thing. DrakeMarshall - Archivist. Sadly, just an Archivist, and not one that has found out anything terribly interesting, although I can share tidbits to confirm like how I know Archer stored bronze last night for some reason, or how I knew/suspected a lot of y'alls roles before you claimed. In your position, I would probably suspect me of having an allomantic ability hidden, but I do not. Archer - Sentry + ???. And I am fairly sure they do have a second role, specifically an allomantic one. That is something I gathered from their D1 role analysis and our PM. What that second role is, I do not know exactly. Dannex - Sparker + Duralumin Gnat. Neither of these roles are easily mechanically confirmable, so they could theoretically be totally lying, but I don't think they are lying. The strategy Dannex is claiming to have taken is pretty extreme and is one of the only logical explanations for their deliberate lurking behavior. Also the degree of detail Dannex is coming up with about the clarifications and misunderstandings they had about their role feel like they would be hard to make up. Conjectured Existence: Soother. Multiple people including myself have already pointed out that one probably exists. Leecher. Araris claimed to be roleblocked. Araris had no reason to lie about this. And what's more my Archivist power from N3 told me that Araris targeted nobody (a result the GMs confirmed was consistent with a player who had been roleblocked), which means Araris wasn't secretly just taking another action and only pretending to be roleblocked. Also note that blocking Araris was pretty much exclusively in the eliminators' interest and the Leecher is all but guaranteed to be an eliminator. So there are two unaccounted for allomantic roles. I know that it is only mechanically possible for these players to have allomantic roles I do not yet know about: Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Archer, Dannex. Of these, I think Matrim's and Dannex's claims both actually have a ring of truth. Therefore I think it is likely that the two allomantic roles Soother and Leecher are possessed by the two players Ashbringer and Archer. Also note that one of these players no longer has their previous role, due to how the Kandra conversion mechanic works. Part 2: Reads Ashbringer - They have always been on my sus list, and the way they are acting pretty calm and not apparently focused on catching eliminators today feels like strong evidence that they are Evil. Biplet - I feel like they are village. Partially because Biplet teaming with the other people I find suspicious is a little too on the nose. Partially because I think Biplet talking about elim!Thugs D1 is also a little too on the nose. Partially because of gut and other hand wavey reasons I can't remember. Szeth_Pancakes - I thought they were village at the beginning of the game, but my read has become more and more conflicted. Some of this pertains to the role analysis bit I said above, the rest of it pertains to general behavior in thread. Matrim's Dice - I already listed a bunch of reasons this cycle why I think Matrim is Evil. I feel that most of that reasoning is still sound. DrakeMarshall - I know I am a villager and apparently you all do too, although obviously I could now be the Kandra. I have been saying the whole time that Araris and I are evil teammates after all (incidentally I am using my Archivist ability today and if I'm lucky it will let me prove I'm not the Kandra, at least unless the game ends before then) Archer - I know I sussed them for a bit but I have an increasingly village read. I feel like I've been in a similar enough headspace of "oh crap the village is in danger" as Archer this last cycle, and some of their schemes like trying to lure out the elim roleblock would be very unnecessary for an eliminator. They could probably still be evil, but heck, if they are they deserve the win lol. Dannex - I am automatically paranoid about anyone who claims to be an alignment scanner at exlo (probably bc that was exactly what I did the last time I was an elim ), but tbh, how they are acting is not how I would expect elim!Dannex resurfacing to act. As much as I don't like the whole "pretend to be inactive thing" it feels like a genuine village strategy, and I have a hard time envisioning elim!Dannex coming up with this lie. So... Tentatively a village read, but one that is kinda weak since it is only backed up by one cycle of activity. Part 3: Voting History Day 1: Experience (4): |TJ|, Archer, Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Ventyl Matrim's Dice (2): Araris Valerian, manukos, Szeth_Pancakes Araris Valerian (1): DrakeMarshall DrakeMarshall (1): Flyingbooks Mist (1): Devotary of Spontaneity Ventyl (1): Biplet A delightfully active vote, if scatterbrained. Ashbringer breaks tie in Matrim's favor, with stated reasons being the avoidance of ties. Vote removed from Matrim was basically just manukos storing, and probably not significant. Day 2: |TJ| (6): Araris Valerian, Archer, Biplet, Devotary of Spontaneity, Flyingbooks, Szeth_Pancakes Biplet (3): |TJ|, DrakeMarshall, Matrim's Dice, Mist Araris Valerian (1): Ashbringer Ashbringer does not get involved with the TJ vs Biplet vote. One of the votes on Biplet is probably Soothed. Day 3: Biplet (3): Araris Valerian, Archer, Devotary of Spontaneity, Matrim's Dice Matrim's Dice (3): DrakeMarshall, Flyingbooks, Illwei Araris Valerian (1): Szeth_Pancakes The Unknown Order (1): Biplet Archer unlikely to be E/E with Matrim. Day 4: The Unknown Order (5): Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, Biplet, DrakeMarshall, Matrim's Dice Matrim's Dice (3): Archer, Flyingbooks, Szeth_Pancakes Biplet (1): Devotary of Spontaneity Potential defense of Matrim by Ash and/or Bip, as Archer(?) already pointed out. Part 4: Conclusion So who is the Soother and who is the Leecher? Well, I already said I'm pretty sure the two allomantic roles are possessed by the two players Archer and Ashbringer. Archer said they aren't the Soother. I think Archer is lying, and is in fact a Soother. I am village reading Archer for the reasons I gave before, and I have also noticed that Archer seems much more confident than I do about there being a next turn in the game, which feels like something that would come out of knowing for sure that there is a village!Soother. They have also expressed concerns about revealing too much information that would paint targets on people's backs, so denying that they are a Soother is completely consistent with how Archer has been playing so far. If my hunch is correct, than Ashbringer is very probably the eliminator!Leecher. Or Archer could be telling the truth. In which case, Archer must be the eliminator!Leecher. This is certainly reasonable grounds for some to suspect Archer. In this case, Archer might also know for sure that a village!Soother exists (if the elim team does not include the Soother) and therefore this could also explain why Archer appears to be planning for a turn after this one. Obviously, if Archer is in fact the Leecher, then Ashbringer isn't. That is why I voted on Ashbringer. I am reasonably confident that they are the eliminator!Leecher, or at least that they were the eliminator!Leecher (bc they could have been converted last night). In this case, Ashbringer would be a fairly safe vote, in the sense that it would definitely remove an Evil and it would under no circumstances allow the eliminators to reach parity before the D6 execution is decided. Also, Matrim voted for Ashbringer, and as much as I really suspect Matrim, this vote intrigued me. I strongly suspected a Matrim and Ashbringer eliminator team, so why the beans did Matrim vote for Ashbringer? Well, there are a few possible explanations to that. One possible explanation is that spreading village votes between multiple eliminators and then hammering right at the end is a totally viable tactic for exlo. This assumes that the eliminators can actually all be online at rollover, though, which while possible does not seem the most likely. Another possible explanation is that there is (perhaps justified) conflict between the eliminators. I would be totally unsurprised if Araris managed to bag an eliminator as his successor. A Kandra!eliminator is totally disastrous for the elim team, since the Kandra can hijack the eliminator kill in addition to using their own intrinsic kill ability, and furthermore an elim-turned-Kandra should probably wish to weaken the eliminator team right now, so such internal strife could actually make complete sense. In this case, killing either Matrim or Ashbringer would be a decent choice, it should not matter much which one we chose. Edit: Since I didn’t get to it anywhere else, I will also note here that both Matrim and Ashbringer would have been potentially rather clever conversion choices by Araris in their own ways. Matrim bc then Araris could have targeted both thieves in a (possibly flawed) attempt to ensure that at least one eliminator was hit, keeping the game from ending in the Kandra’s defeat which was a pretty big danger. Ash bc not claiming kinda makes it a bit less of an issue that your old role was stripped from you, and bc converting someone you think could be an elim has significant potential gains. Edit2: Also because Matrim keeps saying “if you kill me the village loses” and that feels like it might be another technically true but misleading statement similar to the “I only started with one role” thing, not “I’m village” but “you need me to win” bc Matrim is the Kandra. But enough about Kandra conspiracies back to our regularly scheduled programming of catching elims /edit Obviously, another possibility is that Matrim and Ashbringer aren't E/E teammates. And if it's between Matrim and Ashbringer, if one of my reads on them had to be wrong, I guess I'd rather trust in my role analysis of Ashbringer being the Leecher, if only by a narrow margin. Because I am fairly confident in that role analysis. And even if it were wrong, that would probably make Archer evil, and I already noted that I don't think Archer and Matrim are E/E, so in that case Matrim is probably good, and Ashbringer would therefore still be the better choice for the exe. So uh... Yeah. That is basically my thought process. There are a few different possibilities I can see, but in every case it feels like Ashbringer could be an execution that is more likely to succeed than Matrim. I am still deeply paranoid about the fact that I can't think of a third member of the elim team that clicks, and I am also deeply paranoid that whether or not Ashbringer is Evil my decision to split the vote will still have doomed the village. I will hear out a case for a different vote. @Archer @Biplet @Dannex this is my thoughts, which in some way shape or form you said you sorta wanted me to explain. Sorry if it was long. I am interested on what your thoughts on my thoughts are

Yes I will plan to show all of my work in a couple hours. I have regrettably been traveling basically this entire day, but it is high time I laid all my cards on the table. Especially because I’m really not sure about things and I want to ask all of the village’s opinion, with the information I am looking at.

Yeah so I may live to regret this but Ashbringer. Most remaining roles I know of are either confirmed or have surprisingly believable claims. Unless somebody is lying, the Leecher is either Ash or Archer, and my money would be on Ash. I’ve got maybe some concerns that this will just be executing the Kandra, because for several reasons I would have probably considered converting Ash in Araris’ place, but regardless I can be reasonably sure Ash at least started out as the elim!Leecher so... Should be a safe exe for today, which we kinda need, even if I definitely still have some questions about other things.

That's right in addition to me being eliminator teammates with Araris I am also eliminator teammates with Matrim How dare you impugn my flawless distancing skills More seriously, I didn't know Matrim already asked. If I knew you were already opposed to volunteering this information I would not have asked. I already knew you are a Sentry, I knew that for a few cycles. I also know you stored bronze last night. The surprise tie was clever, although I am a tad curious what your motive for that was. The thing is if you're not a Soother then that has... Implications. Yeah I don't really get what you are hinting at with our PM but I'll probably figure it out at some point if there's something to be figured out. I... I don't really know who my third is. I don't really trust any of y'all completely You know, it could be you, and that's not a very nice thought. Weirdly, I think it could also be Szeth. I don't really like what Dannex did but I don't think it's an elim thing either. (although it is kinda hard to come out of things looking good when you claim to be an alignment scanner the day of exlo) Hrm.................. Well now that's food for thought isn't it. Sorry to ask this but if hypothetically at some point I wanted to switch to Ashbringer would you consider voting with me?

Hmmm this may be unwise but @Archer are you the Soother? You are free not to answer but I am curious.

Biplet would not have suggested the existence of an eliminator Thug on D1 as the eliminator Thug. In addition to being hopelessly mindgamey to an extent that very few players are, such a gambit would be just plain not a good strategy. You're wrong. Every eliminator ever who dodges the execution is defended by a great many villagers. That isn't the point. In aggregate, when somebody survives many executions on end, there is more in play than just villagers. Villagers are capricious. I know villagers are capricious because some of those times you survived I was defending you and others I was trying my best to kill you. Like I said, circumstantial evidence works for any isolated occasion, but at some point the big picture kicks in. The rule I am citing comes from quite a few games I have experienced and if you really want I can go back and cite them all. It proved false in maybe one of all of those examples? At this point, I would happily stake the game on the fact that you are Evil. You are either an eliminator or you were one last cycle. Yeah, I know you bought the charged spike, which btw is a contradiction of claiming that as a village!Thief it was your duty to get as much boxings as possible and claim the Lerasium alloy, but that is not even what I was talking about. I am aware of the existence of several roles, and I know that nobody could have started the game with two allomantic powers. Therefore, I believe you must have started the game as a Soother or a Leecher. Or at least, that was the case before Dannex showed up and revealed they were actually active and submitting actions while pretending to be totally inactive. Now it is quite possible that you are telling the truth about this. Indeed, I am inclined to believe that you . Although I hope you understand that this doesn't negate literally any of my other points, and I am still very confident that you are Evil. I'd wager it's Ashbringer. I don't particularly trust you, but I vote that you reveal the result of this scan. It doesn't matter about painting a target on someone's back for the night kill if we don't even survive the day. I am not very happy about leaning on the sort of strategy you are describing, but that is not really a thing we need to address right now. EDIT: Also are you a Soother?

Well then, I was right about Araris at least. If I am reading things correctly, it looks like the eliminators decided to leave Araris alone last night. I'm betting Araris took a shot at Devotary and then used his other action to pass the torch to his chosen successor which btw I am unhappy is not me but then maybe that would have been too obvious I am guessing the eliminators targeted Books, because books was a quite strong village read of very many people. After Illwei books was probably the most sensible target. Anyways, the results are... Fairly dire for the village, really. We lost two villagers and a Kandra tonight, which means there are only 7 players left. Of those, I expect 3 eliminators, 1 Kandra, and 3 villagers. We only technically have the majority with the Kandra on our side. Also, one of the 7 is inactive, which unfortunately could be decisive. (@Dannex it's really not too late to show up though!!) Basically, the odds are against the village right now. Very. The wrong execution will end the game before we can even get to the night turn, and our margin for preventing a misex is small even if everyone plays perfectly. But yeah enough fatalism nonsense lets do one last push yeah? The game wouldn't still be running if we couldn't still win. It's quite possible the Kandra converted an eliminator, for example, which would be really good news. It's also quite possible that the village is in possession of vote manipulation. Its also quite possible that Dannex is an inactive eliminator and not an inactive villager. And I'm pretty sure I know who is Evil, finally. I am regretting D4. I have a rule. It's a deceptively simple rule but it has rarely if ever lead me astray. If somebody gets put up for execution multiple times and keeps coming out of it unscathed, they have a team backing them up. It really doesn't matter what circumstantial justifications are provided, when you look at the big picture, there is no single stronger indicator that somebody is benefiting from the support of a team. Matrim's Dice. Three times now, you have survived being placed up for execution. I do not intend to let you slip the noose a fourth time. The odds that you are evil are overwhelmingly high. I could give other reasons, such as the significant constraints of process of elimination forced by the deaths over the last two turns, or the fact that I think a villager would be much more motivated to think of village strategies to use their role, or the fact that you have more roles than you are saying, or the fact that your defense has always felt somewhat akin to irritation at being suspected correctly but based on a faulty argument. But the one reason is sufficient.

I know half of your role, but I am pretty sure the half I know is not the half that is relevant to your plan. Good luck, anyhow. Btw I don't think I've said it yet but in shuffling around my reads a bit after the last day you have advanced to a village read in my books. My one reservation about urging everyone to buy cheap items is that it's fairly probable that some of our actions will interfere with each other, but even then I reckon we're better off with more folks trying to do stuff to save the village.

Alright, so new plan. Sort of. Simply put, my advice is that all @villagers who have the funds consider buying something, tonight. Because one way or another, I expect things to be decided soon. Either the eliminator team will win tomorrow night or we will have killed one or more of them by then and will have a strong lead on whoever remains. The boxings you are saving up will be of little use if the game is ended. The eliminators will probably use their boxings intelligently, and so we should too. Many of you should at least be able to afford a steel trap by now, and that is enough to make a difference. Enough steel traps and we have the potential to halt the eliminator kill, and perhaps more importantly shut down the roleblock on Araris long enough that he can get a kill in. Or more than one kill, if we go through with the Nicrobursting plan, which I think we still should try. In my not very humble opinion, this has significantly better odds at turning things around than the vote will. It's a gamble, but then, what isn't? Bribes and blackmail are also an excellent use of money tonight. The former will potentially stave off exlo and the latter is almost like a better version of a roleblock that has the potential for a rather drastic turning of the tables if used correctly. I know all of these consumable items aren't the most flashy, but they make a difference when they are used in numbers, and numbers is the one advantage we still have. I am sort of assuming that Araris survives the night, which is not a given, but also, I do not believe it is in the eliminators' best interest to kill Araris, if they have thought things through.

Cool. Not tonight, though. It affects the turn after you nicroburst, and an extra action during the day turn won't help Araris. The best we can manage is using it on him during the next day turn, so he can attack twice, and I don't imagine the elims can block both attacks.

Well. Storms. That doesn't look good. Tomorrow is probably going to be exlo. Heck, even if the elim kill fails tonight, we are still basically looking at exlo. And I don't often get to see a village pull itself back from the brink of exlo. Hey @Dannex please show up to vote tomorrow! Every vote is going to count. At least we can probably rely on the Kandra to side with the village in tomorrow's vote, but it's still a narrower margin than I'd like. And, like, I still don't think it was the wrong choice with what we knew to exe Unknown Order. Not because of inactivity or whatever, at least not directly, but because we had essentially no reason to trust them :/ The defense "I did nothing wrong" rings kinda hollow when your self-proclaimed playstyle is to do nothing, period. The state of the black market is also interesting, and beyond that I am going to mostly avoid commenting on for now. The lack of soothing is also interesting and very IKYK. On the bright(?) side I have at least two new suspicions, and also some new ideas. Desperate times call for desperate measures and all that. Yo @Szeth_Pancakes wanna nicroburst Araris?

If no one is sus, then the people who have been saying and doing lots of things, who have had many more opportunities to incriminate themselves and haven't, should logically be the worse choice for the execution.

"So I been digging around," Juno continued lecturing. "Finding all the skeletons in the closet, and let me tell ya I wish that was only a figure o' speech. And I've been looking to the folks in the meeting hall. They say the immortals don't use metals like we do, maybe it's true and maybe it's not, but I figure it's worth keeping track of whenever somebody uses a metal, just in case. Most important is that I've been getting to know some of you all better. Looking for signs of impersonators. I've got a good memory, right? I know when somebody's not actin' quite usual." "That's how I figured the sweeper fellow is off. I coulda sworn he was left handed last week, but then he was sweepin away with his right hand without a care in the world! And now look, he stopped sweepin altogether, now he's just just mopin! Now what do you reckon is up with that? Paints a very unsavory picture if I do say so myself, very unsavory indeed." "But Juno, you ask. What do we do about it? What can we even rusting do about an immortal mythic being? Well, I don't reckon we gotta do anythin much." Juno smiled unpleasantly. "I reckon the rebs 'ave got that down pat. And no need to clue 'em in 'bout what they're dealing with either, yeah? We just mind our own business." I'd wager a boxing that the probable soother is not online at the end of the cycle and we might see something interesting there. But I really don't feel like I know how this is going to turn out, generally speaking. I guess I'm just surprised that less than half of the players are voting in a game that has voting incentives, and when voting is just plain a good thing even without incentives. But then again, I'm also the person who ran multiple games where not voting on too many days would get you activity filtered, so my views on the subject may not exactly be average. There is also the fact that getting a decent sus read has felt sorta difficult in this game. Maybe is just because I'm getting back into things. If not though then I would say it's maybe a good hint that a number of eliminators are maybe not taking the most active role in affairs? Not gonna lie I'm not a huge supporter of "I don't do things therefore I can't have done anything wrong" being generally treated as a sound defense, especially from someone who is around enough to be making that defense. But idk what do I know Matrim could totally be evil lol. Anyways vote judiciously and all that and I will see you all on the other side of the turn probably.

While we're bouncing ideas and such does somebody wanna explain to me reasons why Archer isn't totally Evil Note that I'm not voting for you currently, but idk, I did look back on some of your past games and imo you seemed fairly chill about being sussed as an elim or even being an outed elim in some previous games. If anything I'd say you have pushed back against the votes on you more in this game than in those games I skimmed, so I don't quite agree with Araris' assessment, but for kinda different reasons than you are implying. That may in fact be an accurate summary of everyone else's stated reasons, but you misunderstand my reasons. I am voting on you based on process of elimination. I don't really approve of not doing reads or voting, but that is not why I am voting for you, and even if you did those things I would still probably vote for you. Pretty much only two things would dissuade me here, and that's if one of my villager reads were disproven, or if a wagon on a different name from the list of players I would support executing seemed like it would be more viable. I am decently okay with the vote against you being in competition with the vote against Matrim, since Matrim is probably my weakest village read, but I still think my vote is best placed on you.

From the rules document: Make of that what you will. In a manner of speaking, yes. We executed a village Lurcher. Specifically TJ, with the D2 vote. You even voted for them Not gonna lie but not checking the role/alignment flip of the people you voted for isn't a great look. That's, like, the one point of feedback I have as a villager. I might not care about anything else but I want to know if the person I voted for was evil or not. If you want to claim go ahead, I can't stop you I don't plan on asking it of you, though. This tbh. In order for Araris to be an eliminator, these are all the things that would need to happen: The eliminators were given double the number of nightly kills as normal, while the village received no obvious buff to compensate. Instead of using the fact that they had double the number of nightly kills to win normally, they decided to use an elim kill on an elim during N1, for some reason. Then they roleblocked one of their own kills on N3, for some reason. Whatever scheme they came up with to justify all this, which would have to be a very complicated scheme indeed, they came up with right out of the gates, and all agreed on, by N1. Idk sorry if this is coming across as sorta heavy-handed, but I'm seeing multiple peeps posting elim!Araris conspiracy theories across multiple cycles, and, like, I don't lightly say a thing is legit impossible, but elim!Araris is impossible. Smh I likes me a good tinfoil but there is such a thing as too much.

FYI, Kandra is an alignment. It is probably also a role, but that is just a reasonable deduction based on the setup. Whereas the fact that Kandra is an alignment in the game and that this alignment wins if everyone else loses is something that is explicit in the rules. You have my sincere apologies for not dying It's a valid concern, though. I am surprised nobody else has voiced it yet. I have already stated that my archivist abilities have shown me a few random player's roles or partial roles, so the answer to your question is "yes." Setting aside for a moment the risks of asking a Lurcher to claim, it is interesting that you would assume there is a second Lurcher, and that they are probably village. I will not confirm or deny if this is true, but I will note that the eliminator team seems to share your exact assumption, since Araris isn't dead. I find this to be a bit suspect. I am also a bit suspicious of voting on somebody to learn somebody else's alignment. It just.. tends to be a pretty easy reason to give, and I feel like people who give that reason later on in a game have an alarming tendency to be evil. Also if you think Mat and Bip are E/E, but you also think Bip is evil if Mat isn't, doesn't that mean you are very sure Bip is evil either way? Why are you voting for Mat and not Bip? Idk I kinda feel like that's a thing a villager would be more likely to notice in their analysis and acknowledge.