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Do you have a source for that, because that does not match known information. Vessels can nudge a Shard slightly, but the Shard will generally have a much greater impact on the Vessel over time. We don't have confirmation, but the trend (based on current known data) is that Vessels that constrict their view of the intent seem to be successful (Ruin limiting to Entropic expressions of the Intent - at least at first); while Vessels that try to widen the definition fail (Odium, hopeing to be considered "Passion" if only saying it often enough worked). I think it is more like a Venn Diagram, if the Vessel's expression of the intent is entirely inside the actual intent - no problems. If part of the Vessel's expression of Intent drifts outside of the actual Intent - problems (like the Sja Anat Interlude in RoW):

Do you have a source for that? The Spirits form Physical Realm Fabrials and the Yoki-hijo facilitates the change; but they "function" for whatever supplicant requested the specific Fabrial. I find no indication that it is a Nahel Bond (which is, in part, defined by two entities in a symbiotic state - Singers and their Form Spren, Greatshells and their Mandra, Ryshadium and their MusicSpren, etc.)

Ditto (but long ago - Cobol and C++ 93-96; and a smattering since, but not professionally until recent use of basic and powershell batch scripting) It's more obvious in Emperor's Soul with the way Shai links stamps (each stamp is an object, the plate "calls" the stamps, the final Stamp "calls" the plate).

You missed at least one step Mistborn Era 1 Example Relevant important annotations from Brandon's website: Elantris TFE WoA HoA Warbreaker

It is implied to be at least a similar construction, further clarified in this WoB: So it seems that features from the City incorporate additional components to whatever the city-sized Aon-Fabrial the City was designed to be.

That's the implication, but Brandon has pulled fast-ones before. . .

Because when Odium killed Aona and Skai, he severed the Shards of Dominion and Devotion from the Spiritual Realm and "stuffed" them into the Congnitive Realm - that why all Selish magic is location dependent - so their investiture cycle returns Dor to the Cognitive Realm only, not the Spiritual Realm. Not fruitless - just not as easy as assemling Voltron. The Shattering means more than getting the proper pieces together - restoring Adonalsium (if it is truely possible) will need something to keep it all together agin - like Navani's "emulsifier" for Lights. At least based on current data, it's not impossible, just more complex than "assemble puzzle pieces here." Hope that helps

Not precisely - there is an Investiture Cycle, much like the IRL Rain Cycle - Kinetic Investiture returns to the Spiritual Realm (not including the Dor) until it is used again. So, as a Rosharan Example - Light from a highstorm Invests a gem, kaladin breaths in the Gem, Kaladin creates a Lashing, the Lashing fades as the Stormlight returns to the Spiritual Realm, until a Highstorm invests a gem. . . (Note: Era 1 Atium was also an exception to the general Investiture Cycle - but that was becaue of how Preservation hid Ruin's Power. it still had a cycle, just a different cycle unique to the Pits of Hathsin). WoB: Yes No (please see WoB) - at least not on a societal or even geologic timescale - maybe on a galactic timescale. . . That's the big question that everybody wants answers - but please keep in mind that we have no examples of a Splintered Shard without any remnants: Ambition's remnants are in the Shades (likely, not definitive) and the Evil Devotion is in the Seons (and possibly more - third empire WoB below) Dominion is in the Skaze (and possibly more- third empire WoB below) Honor is in the Spren (before and after WaT) Virtuosity is in the Yoki-hijo and Spirits of Komashi More likely the individual pieces would each start forming their own sentience or sapience (please see WoB) 1: 2: 3: Hope that helps

Mistborn Spoilers The primary clue to this question that we have so far is: The problem is that, based on current knowledge, the only "programming style" MoI is AonDor (SA Spoilers below), so while an Elantrian may be able to "make" something that could achieve similar effects for another MoI - it's unlikely that they could do something like Elantris for themselves. Hope that helps

That was supposed to be setting him up to become Odium. By giving him the capacity to bear the Shard (extreme emotion days) he was able to prevent the war and slaughter of humanity - he just changed his mind once he actually became Odium.

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Likely, not definite. WoBs: Also - the Arelon Chasm:

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I do not think Autonomy would ever attack Odium or any other Shard. Bavadin plays the Long Game, and her actions with Trell and Jaddeth were well in motion before Taravangian combined Shards. I would be surprised if she did not already have things in motion against Retribution while Era 2 happened on Scadrial, but there was almost no-chance her response would happen that quickly anyway. Frankly, I would not be surprised if we find out that at least one reason BAM started the False Desolation was because Autonomy was interfering in the religion of the Singers while Odium was trapped on Braize - and, if that is correct; then BAM now being released only gives her an already-placed-pawn to start using against Retribution without even seeming to move against him at all (yet).

Split off from this thread (by@Obeythelaw7), a place to discuss details that may state, imply, and/or foreshadow how Stable Retribution is (now-as of the end of WaT) and may become (by SA 6 and/or distant Era 4). BLUF: Taravangian may be partially stable as Retribution now, but I think the foreshadowing is that he will suffer similar problems as Sazed, but for slighly-different, yet related reasons: Intent Conflicts betwen the parts of Retribution and between the Powers and the Vessel. Relevant prior posts: I believe that Taravangian is deluding himself on how well he will be able to balance Intents (even if they are not as "opposite" as Harmony's) because we already see him having to "accomodate" at least one intent (Honor) and change his intended actions to keep the mental gymnastics to appease the partially sentient Shard. Right off the bat, we see that Taravangian is willing to placate Honor, but does not understand Honor nearly as well as Dalinar did (though his blindspot does match the Shard's own blindspot at this point) WaT Ch 143: So, from the beginning we see the power was reticent (and very different from the eagerness expressed by Odium's Shard in RoW) and only accepted the Vessel because Dalinar urged it to do so to learn Honor better. We also have the first seed of taravangian's mistake - claiming to "kept my oaths" - when he did anything but (because he kept the letter, while breaking the spirit of every Oath - which Rayse also did, but Rayse was not trying to become a diShardic vessel). We see the trend continue, as Taravangian continues to show that while he is great at lying to others, that skill is paltry compared to his ability to lie to himself. WaT Ch 145: Honor - binding and keeping Oaths wants "nearly the same thing" as Eternal Hatred and related negative passion? Really? Then he dismisses the echoes of Tanavast and decides Rayse was wrong to not want to merge Shards (Note: he does not reason his way to that conclusion - he "feels" that Rayse must be wrong because he is enjoying the feeling of power). His second act in the same chapter already shows him acknowledging the precarious tightrope he now must tread: The the mental gymnastics start, as he tries to defend his betrayal of Gavinor to his own power, barely succeeding (for now) though "exact words": I'm out of time tonight, so I'll stop here and add more references later, unless already added by others. Not to mention the references @SpartanBrigade showed about how well the powers are working (for now).

In reverse order: I do not think tarvangian could be a Vessel for Cultivation - not jusy because he doesn;t really understand that intent, but because he deeply resents how Kor manipulated him (despite it leading him to become Odium). Autonomy. They've been planning to betray each other for a while now, and we know they have similar - mutually exclusive - goals. Both want to be the "only Shard" Odium - by Splintering all rivals to be the "last Shard standing" Autonomy - by using Avatars to "out-religion" the other Shards so they are fogotten and everybody only worships one or more versions of Autonomy

The WoBs were just two examples about Perpendicularities I could find quickly to try answering that question. Aons are a key (Focus) that creates a Connection to the Investiture it is drawing for power (the Shape being the Filter that determines the effect of the Power as it enters the physical realm). Mistborn Spoilers in WoB: Hope that helps

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The difference is that a Perpendicularity is, by definition, peircing all three realms - such as your example (Stormlight Spoilers) However, Aons only break the barrier to the Cognitive, because that is where the Dor dwells - it is not a Perpendicularity because it does not pierce all three realms. WoBs (Stormlight Spoilers): For Aons, it is more that the Aon is Connecting to the Dor in the Cognitive Realm and allowing it to flow through the Aon and into the Physical realm.

We don't have the full story yet - but based on current Data, an Elantrian is heavily Invested because the peoples that populated what is now Arelon Created Elantris specifically to increase their ability to Access and use the Dor. It likely has to do with the Shaod - which does not seem to have been a part of the magic before the Splintering of Devotion and Dominion. References: Hope that helps

You can call it that, but it was not my Intent - I was merely showing that Brandon did Foreshadow Conflicts of Intent in Retribution. There are more references, I just grabbed the first two from that chapter due to time constraints. But we can make a new thread to discuss this in depth after work when I have time, if you would like. So, you are doing the same thing? That's the first half of the quote I posted, which ignores the rest of Sazed's Comment at the end of the Chapter: All of which is a digression from the point I was actually trying to make: Sazed's primary mistake when taking up Ruin and Preservation was having the Intent to specifically keep them separate, but he was still able to use them together fairly easily, at first (HoA timeframe) Three centuries later - Sazed is finding difficulty in Acting because even though he is called Harmony, there is no Intent to combine the two powers he holds Even though they are "mingled" now though exposure in a way that no longer makes them easy to separate Retribution is in his infancy as a diShardic being and may be having little problem with Intent Conflict so far - but That does not mean he will continue to have no problems, as the Vessel is clearly shown to have to jump though logical "hoops" to keep both halves "happy" Therefore: We cannot say that Retribution will or will not continue to have unfettered acccess to both Shards. It is speculation, not fact, that Retribution will not encounter the same, or similar, problems that Harmony experiences.

The books disagree with you. HoA Ch 82: WaT Ch 145 Harmony may be 3 centuries into the growing dissonance of conflicting Intents - but Retribution only thinks he is less fettered, but on day-one of combining Shards he is already experiencing Intent Conflict causing him to change his plans or making him unable to act as the Vessel would want. Harmony on Coppermind - Discord WoBs, mostly based on this line from TFE Ch 8 Epigraph: You can also search the forums for threads about the theories, such as: WoK Harmony Discord Ref Harmony vs Discord Discord more Ruin Hope that helps Edit: But Retribution cannot just Splinter Harmony. Just as he did not just Splinter the other Shards - he had to manuever them into fighting each other such that one or more broke an Oath making them vulnerable - only then could he Splinter the Shard. WoB:

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^This^ The only red-orange light referenced in WaT is Adolin's Shardplate - and that is heavily implied to be Flamespren plate originally from a Dustbringer (none of the other Unoathed show a red-orange light in any way). WaT Ch 133: In Ch 136 we see that Notum's Unoathed plate still uses Windrunner Colors: Hope that helps

If you mean (Mistborn Spoilers): Then no. This is closer to (Stormlight Archive Spoilers): Basically, because they are Cognitive Shadows stapled to their original Body with a Splinter of Endownment (Divine Breath) that investiture allows them to "tweak" their body a bit to more closely fit their Spiritual and Cognitive Identity. For gods in the Hallandren Court of the Gods, because they have had their memories supressed their form chnges to match their perception of Ideal Beauty for who they are. WoBs and Warbreaker Annotations: Hope that helps