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I know you are already invested in the Cosmere, but be advised - Era 2 is very different from Era 1. That's why many "reading order" threads do not recommend reading them back-to-back for first time readers. If you aren't expecting a significant change in tone and structure, it can be rather jarring. I've known a few people who gave up on the Cosmere shortly after Alloy of Law was publsihed for this very reason.

Not so much a WoB as an observation - Nightblood's sheath is Aluminum, and both Nightblood and the Sheath came to Roshar via Shadesmar and traversed at least two perpendicularities. It's not so much that Aluminum can't be affected by investiture (since a Mistborn, Misting and Ferring are all obviously using it to burn or store/tap investiture) - it's that Aluminum bocks investiture (which is why the sheath helps contain Nightblood). Here's the only WoB I could find about Aluminum and Perpendicularities:

Welcome to the Shard. Here are some tips and tricks that you may not yet know, since each forum software is different: Please be careful with the term "Resonance," which has a specific Realmatic meaning separate from what your questions are asking. If you have not yet done so, you may consider posting what Cosmere books/series you have (or have not - whichever list is shorter) read - here, in an introductory thread, or in your profile. This can help us avoid spoilers, if any should apply. Investiture resists investiture, so it is very doubtful that an Essense mark could affect a Nahel Bond, and even less chance that it would affect the spren itself by stamping the Radiant. We have not yet seen if an essence mark can even be adapted to use in the Cognitive realm, much less on a Cognitive entity. What aspect of BioChroma? The Heightenings, the Aura? Awakening specifically? Ninja'd by @alder24

As all y'all may (or may not) have noticed, I am not a fan of "Vs" threads and am even less inclined to rank things like manifestations of investiture (MoI) - either within a system or between systems. I feel the entire process is a slap-in-the-face to what is, to me, one of Sanderson's primary points in the Cosmere (as a whole) - that nearly every MoI Has strengths Has weaknesses Can be "the best" option in a situation that reinforces the former and minimizes the latter There is no "best" anything, there can only be "best in this situation." --- That said - I have not read the analysis thread referenced in the OP but based on this thread I would say that Steelrunning is very overrated. Any analysis of F-Steel needs to focus on Sazed's scenes in WoA and HoA since "Bleeder" is an exception to almost every point because: She did not use F-Steel - she used a hacked Hf-Steel That Hf-Steel was Trellium-based She used Idashwy's metalminds and did not need to store her own We cannot realibly identify events of that book as applicable to an everage Steelrunner - or specific to how Bleeder accessed and used the ability - based on current information. So, to be any more specific I would need to know what criteria are being used to make the ranking (use in combat, use in daily life, use solo with no other interactions, use as 1/2 of a twinborn set, etc.) - but, to me, in a "what is useful for an average person on an average day" steel might not make the top half of that list (likely 6-10 range). I feel like F-Steel is one of the abilities that is much stronger in tandem than it would be if that was the only MoI you could access.

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Glad to see you back and hope everything is going will with you. You've started a trend, so now we have people doing similar read-blogs on Mistborn Eras 1 and 2 - which you can read and enjoy when/if you get to those stories again. Interesting theory - any reason why? Any thougths on the Alethi Romance Novels?

Those are called epigraphs. For example, since you said you read SA, you can see all of Epigraphs for (SA Spoiler) The Way of Kings here. Or (Mistborn Spoilers in link) when you finish The Final Empire: You seem to be enjoying the book so far. Please make sure to use spoiler tags for references like (SA Spoilers) Don't hesitate to ask if you have questions or need clarification. If possible, please edit your post to remove or spoiler tag the reference mentioned above, and here are my thoughts on that (SA Spoilers): These are good questions, and you will get most of these answers in this book. Also, please try not to double-post. Just edit your post to add the new comments at the bottom if there are no new replies yet.

That depends heavily on how you define the "powerful" and which metrics you apply. For example, have you read Elantris? (minor spoilers) When you have read most of the related Cosmere stories, you may be intereted in @Frustration's Firepower thread - which is dedicated to exactly this kind of analysis and comparison.

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I think we are talking past each other a bit here -- my point was that Duralumin Taps are not as useful as being able to control the increment and timing. Why would you ever want to use Duralumin to tap "everything now" without controlling how much and how long? Duralumin can't affect or help the compression loss for the usefule increments of 2-3x compression where it would matter. Yeah - Duh Me. That's what I get for posting tired.

Understood. I think we are interpreting the same data differently. You also seem to put far more weight on non-canon off-the-cuff examples than I do. Here's the WoB in full (since only part was quoted before): So, at a Q&A brandon gives an example with random numbers to illustrate the point that Compressed F-Traits expend some of the trait to achieve the multiplicative effects. However, if you run the numbers, the off-the cuff "200% for 25 minutes" does not match what we see with either Sazed in WoA or with Wax in Era 2. So, I do not think thsoe numbers are accurate enough to extrapolate a percentage loss ratio (on what is likely to be a bell curve algorithm). I also cannot convince myself that an uncontrolled reaction of duralumin compressed feruchemy is worth the risk excpet possibly in th emost extreme circumstances. You mention 600% and 800% - but your example for the later would only be 700% (where 60 seconds is 1:1 - the progression of "halves" is 30, 15, 7.5, 3.75, 1.875, 0.9375 - which rounds up to 1 second, which is X^7 where X is the compression of time and trait). Also, what circumstance for which trait would be worth compressing to a handful of seconds - when we already see that many Allomantic uses of Duralumin will kill the user when you don't have compensatory abilities for balance (see the examples here - even if the original premise of the post was jossed). So most Ferring | A-Duralumin twinborn would be crazy to try this if they expect to survive (except maybe the smallest metalminds - then the risk doesn;t seem worth the gain to me). It's okay to disagree. We don't have legitimate numbers yet on the ratio of power lost to ferchemical compression.

Understood last time as well, again, please read my post rather than skimming it. Your WoB, reduced: Duralumin cannot restore the time lost by compression - since you also lose time because you have compressed the effect. Duralumin cannot make the 200% happen for the full 30 minutes it should last because Duralumin is always "everything right now." So, again, how does that differ from what Ferchemists can already accomplish? Maybe (using the WoB example) they get 510% for a few seconds instead of only 500%. . . which circles back to the point above: I understand you really want to explore what other forms of Kinetic investiture Duralumin could effect - I'm simply saying that Feruchemy is not one of the Manifestations of Investiture that can gain much from Duralumin that it cannot already produce. I would expect some surges to be similar (SA Spoilers) Here's another WoB that may apply:

So, this clearly states that Duralumin can affect other Invested Arts, which could theoretically translate to Feruchemy. Understood, but you ignored the final point I worked up to: Feruchemy has no need of Duralumin to accomplish the same effect. Duralumin Tap - release all available power in an instant. Max Compress the storage - release all power in the metal mind in an instant. The effects would be the same, or so similar as to be indistinguishable outside of laboratory testing and measuring. The power loss to Feruchemical compression tapping is exhibitied in less proportionate time. Durlumin compresses all Kinetic investiture into the smallest available time. (they are probably operating on the same fundamental realmatics).

If you need an idea to pursue, here's a thought experiment:

Spoilers for Blinding White: I'm interested to know if you still feel that way when you are done.

Most likely Identity contamination means one spike has an effect, the other three (or more) are wasted and do nothing. Not only will the differing identities cause conflict, but current known information indicates that only one identity would have access through a single bind point. No, the heart has at least four bind points, if your multi-spike were somehow able to pierce all four you might be able to make that work, but it would lamost assuredly count as four spikes, even if only one shows from outside of the body.

Exactly. The "Expand" (or at least that is the label on PC) will only expand to current internal length; so if there is a spoiler or collapsed quote in there, then you have to show those first for the "Expand" to correctly display the full contents. If you "expand" first, then open the spoiler or collapsed quote, it will not expand again and the collapsed box will extend below the quote/post/thread. Any elements that have a higher layer order will cover that section of the text. Hope that helps.

Welcome to the forums How big will this plaque be, if you plan to have 20 glyphs, each 7 to 9 in diameter? Or did you mean a 9 in plaque with all twenty glyphs? Will you be using the "double-eye" configuration? @AltonicKeys already linked the Coppermind gallery, I would also mention that you can use Sanderson's website resources as well, like The Order Summary or Stormlight Archive Art. Sometimes (on PC), when I need a slightly higher resolution that the available download, I'll "zoom" in the webpage (usually CTRL and + (Shift or + on the numpad), then use Alt+PrtScn to take a screenshot of the current page, which you can then paste into an editor (like Paint) and crop - this will usually yield a higher resolution image (example - the 500px Gravitation glyph became 900x1000 saved this way). Be sure to know and follow the Fan Art Guidelines - Brandon is very generous to fans, so you really want to follow the few rules he puts forth (which mostly amount to private-use-only). Hope that helps

Thanks. Sounds interesting. If it's a series you recommend, you may consider submitting it to the recommended reading thread.

I acknowledge only two kinds of candy: Dark Chocolate Home baked desserts All else can be filed under rubbish and safely ignored. I really miss the greatest M&M ever, but M&M Dark is an acceptible substitute. I am a fan of Paqui Chips, though.

Not quite. 10 Minutes at half-weight would equal 10 minutes at 150% weight (not double weight). WoB: So, extrapolating from this, A Duralumin Gnat who is also a Ferring may be able to tap their metalmind, then burn A-Duralumin for an enormous burst of instant Feruchemical power. No. Tapping a metal mind is regular feruchemy. The reason why Duralumin can impact Compounding specifically, is because when a twinborn Compounds, they are burning a metalmind Allomantically (not "Tapping" - "Burning") - and Durlumin is able to release all of the potential of an Allomantic source in a single burst. Burning Durlumin would not effect Tapping - and even if they somehow found a way to hack it to effect Tapping a Metalmind, it would be the same as what Feruchemy can already accomplish by compressing the storage to release the entire amount at one time. Hope that helps

Correct they were not full, but neither were they expansive (WoA Ch 50): So, Sazed notes that at the rate he stores (since we never get his "percentages") that it ould take him weeks to fill a ring - and that he stored these attributes for three days. We also know that his "three days'" storage of speed was expended in less than five minutes (probably much less, but I'm rounding up). So, rough math says that (14/3)*4 = roughly 20 minutes or less of feruchemical charge in a ring at the rate Sazed tapped them in that fight. At best. What makes you think that metal poisoning would nto be a factor? Also, one square inch of tattoo is approzimately 1/24th ounce of ink - so even if your ink was 95% metal, it would take at least 25 square inches of tattoo to make 1 ounce of metal for a metalmind. White Sand spoilers:

Precisely, it's been three years, so the topic is moribund. The Applicable section of the linked guidelines is (emphasis mine): So, the OP: Was about if Lerasium stacked as double strength for a Misting becoming a Mistborn via bead (like Vin's double-bronze being a Mistborn with Ha-Bronze). Your comment was about a tangent, that was neither including new information, nor addressing the original post. It's not a huge deal, and you are correct that the Mods don't put a hard time limit on these things (there are so many factors, it's difficult to measure). But it is also an anti-spam measure, since Bots often post to an old-but-not-locked thread as a way to post spam links they hope to go unnoticed by the Admins. I hope you did not think there was any animosity in my previous post - it was only intended to be a friendly reminder that a new thread is generally preferable to posting to old threads unless there is a very specific reason (and even then, it is sometimes better to do something like this post where yo ustart a new thread and reference/quote the original thread) to reply to that specific thread. Hope that helps. Have a great day.

Everybody is so quick to jump to the conclusion that Sigzil broke his Windrunner Oaths. TSM very specifically never says that (see above quote from @alder24, emphasis mine) We also have this WoB: It is possible that Sigzil and his honorspren agreed to end their bond (possibly to make it safe for Sig to become a DawnVessel). Both are possible - breaking oaths and voluntarily ending the bond. My guess is that in the time between leaving the Windrunners and joining the Skybreakers, Sigzil had changed - and something about Aux (especially since it is implied they met in Shadesmar at some point before bonding) drew Sigzil enough to consider a new bond (or circumstances made it such that he felt he needed a new bond).

Not all tattoo inks carry metals, there were centuries of plant-based inks as tattoos before the first mass-market metal-based coloring was developed or used. Also, since Sazed's Rings in WoA were barely able to hold a few minutes of Feruchemical charge, and the amount of metal in tattoo ink is not only mixed (and therefore a non-viable alloy) but also many many fractions less, I doubt that even if you were able to consider it as a metal mind (assuming only one metal was used and it matched your ability) you would get more than a second or three of charge out of a full sleeve tattoo. Maybe up to 30 seconds charge if you tattto your whole body. And that's a whole lot of mental and physical hoops to jump through for a tiny portion of metal to use as a metalmind.