Toaster Retribution

1 hour ago, alder24 said:

I don't watch a lot of movies, so I avoid voicing my opinion on the casting, but Roshar has an Asian-like population, so the only casting I will accept is Asian actors. And I don't like 100% CGI movies, sometimes it's too visible it's CGI.

Asian actors are the way to go, except for the Shin, a couple of the Heralds, and arguably worldhoppers, depending on how recognizable you want them to be between movies. It would be preferential to have the same actor portraying Vasher in both Stormlight and Warbreaker for example. 

As for casting choices, I will agree with OP that Sadie Sink would be a great Shallan if she was of matching ethnicity. I generally go with Hailee Steinfeld, but she is starting to become too old for the part. 

Other ideas in no particular order:

*Dave Bautista as Dalinar (pretty sure Brandon himself suggested this once)

*Charles Melton as Elhokar

*Chiwetel Ejiofor as Nale

*Gemma Chan as Jasnah

*Simone Ashley as Shalash

*Hugo Weaving as Ishar

I think it is worth bringing up that Kaladins perception of Moash, and willingness to deal with him, might change after he learns of how Teft died. That might, so to speak, be the last push over the edge for Kaladins ability to forgive Moash or see him as someone deserving of help and/or mercy. Killing Teft might very well put Moash in the Amaram-section of Kaladins mind. 

1 hour ago, Frustration said:

The problem with Kaladin in these situations isn't that he not violent enough, it's that he refuses to do anything that isn't violent. He could just capture people, but to hom it's either fight or do nothing.

It is incredibly difficult to capture someone like Moash, who has access to an Honorblade and Surgebinding. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kaladin does as far as I know not possess enough knowledge to do that and make it work. 

5 hours ago, Ati16 said:

You have posted this topic four times. Is there some kind of technical issue?

I have had similar stuff happening to me. Probably just an accident. 
 

As for the topic at hand, not really. I see what you are talking about, but they are really different in manners, appearance and personality as well as backstory. 

On 2023-01-13 at 1:56 AM, Firesong said:

I am extremely worried about Cosmere becoming just something like Star Wars Legends, where it ceases to really be anything special and just something a lot of different authors become a part of. I love Cosmere as being Brandon's vision, not something that has a lot of different authors. I was fine with Issac doing some things due to him being a big part of Cosmere in general, but now he is bringing in Dan (despite not long ago saying Issac is the only one he trusts for it), which is worrying me. 

I don’t think it will be, and I do think some collaborations are a good idea. As long as Brandon is around to make sure that everything fits with the main vision things should be okay. 

I also think the theory is good, but I doubt that Brandon would do the same ending twice. If Dalinar becomes the Shard of War, it will have to be very different build-up and circumstances for it to work without feeling like a rehash of stuff we have already seen. 

I don't necessarily think Adolin should be punished for offing Sadeas. Not to condone murder, but given everything that had happened, and what Sadeas was saying, it was basically self-defense. I do however sometimes think that the plot would have been stronger if he faced some actual consequences for it, mostly because how it worked as something of a cliff-hanger ending in Book 2, and people spent three years debating what the fallout would be. The fact that everyone (except Ialai) basically shrugged and focused on other things was a bit of an anticlimax. But that has more to do with the storyline in general, and not so much Adolins character. I personally really like him. He is a good guy, and the journey from basically being one of the most important and powerful men in the world to having everyone and their mother powercreeping past him is pretty interesting. 

I'd argue the Cosmere would be a pretty fun place if Whimsy got to influence everything unchecked. But maybe that's just me. 

I saw the first two episodes of Wednesday and wasn't particularly amazed. It was well-made, but felt a lot like every other supernatural high-school-drama around. Jenna Ortega was good, but not really mindblowing in the way that the internet seems to think. She mostly just walks around with a straight face and drops dark one-liners (which is basically Wednesdays entire character, and it gets old/repetetive rather quickly). I wasn't particularly intrigued by any of the other characters either, they kind of felt like stereotypical characters from the high-school genre. Harry Potter did basically everything Wednesday did better. 

On 2023-01-08 at 10:34 PM, bmcclure7 said:

No actually we see her body clearly still intact in the oathbringer. 

Whoops, thats right. My bad, forgot that part of it.

On 2023-01-09 at 3:42 PM, alder24 said:

Adolin is unlikely as well, but now he seams to hate his father for what he's done, and that he wrote about it in his book. He is angry about it. He would not fight for Odium, but Rayse is dead, long live Taravangian! I can see, how Todium could trick Adolin into thinking that Taravangian doesn't want to fight this war and in the Duel, but want to make peace, as he now holds the Shard, but can't because he's forced to fight in the Duel. So he need Adolin to stand against his father and convince him to withdraw from it, surrender or release Todium from the contract. That would make Adolin willing contestant, but also a tricked one as well.

I think that would be out of character for Adolin to be honest. He is not dumb enough to be tricked into becoming Odiums Champion, not for Rayse and not for Taravangian. He knows that Mr. T ordered a whole bunch of deaths, including his fathers and (indirectly) his own. I also think that Adolin is way to honorable to betray everyone just out of anger at Dalinar. He would have to let Shallan, Kaladin, Renarin and Navani down, which is something he wouldn't do. He is not that single-minded, or that hateful. 

For me it would have to be a three-way-tie between Mandalorian, Ahsoka and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. I love Star Wars, and I couldn't be more excited to see that story continue in season 3 of the Mandalorian, and then see Sabine and Thrawn in live-action in Ahsoka. And James Gunn is in my opinion the best comic book-movie director there is, and Guardians is one of Marvels best franchises. I have been waiting for the third one since 2017. 

What about everyone else?

Obligatory Lord of the Rings mention. Tolkien was catholic, and his christianity defenitely shows. 

18 hours ago, bmcclure7 said:

I understand that but I can't reconcile it with oathbringer,   what Would be the point of all that character  Building with him growing to connect with the Spren of his sword,  If hes just going to abandon that entire plot line in favor of becoming odiums champion. 

Agreed. Pre-Oathbringer, Adolin as Odiums Champion was a pretty popular theory, and a lot of people expected his character to go down a darker path after murdering Sadeas. If that is what Brandon wanted to do with Adolin, he would have done it then. That was not the route taken, and I do not see Adolin becoming an antagonist in any way. Besides, we already have Moash as the "friend turned enemy"-character.

18 hours ago, bmcclure7 said:

I also have a theory about it being his dead wife or at least  an awake in creature created from her  Dead body.  However I am self aware enough to realize that this is unlikely. 

I agree with your self-awareness xD. Evis body is most likely a pile of ash scattered by the storms, and I doubt not even a Shard could create much from that. 

6 hours ago, Adamkarma said:

@Toaster Retribution Shalash doesn't have Surges. But she's a half immortal being that is mad. I do not think any of them will bond any Spren. Nale bonded his Spren before the False Desolation. when he was not mad.

Shalash could presumably get better. Dalinar managed to temporarily heal Taln at Thaylen City, so it shouldn't be impossible. And, as @alder24said, the spren don't really appear to care about madness. Or at least, different kinds of spren have different views on it. The Highspren don't seem to care (ie, they still like Nale, and they bonded Szeth), for example. 

On 2022-12-19 at 6:49 PM, Ati16 said:

After Taravangian becomes Odium's vessel he is going to need Kharbranth for strategic reasons, but his daughter wouldn't give Kharbranth to him and would insist that it remained neutral. Taravangian then loses control over his intent and in his rage destroys Kharbranth.

I like this reading of the Death Rattle. The one issue I have is that Brandon mentioned that Mr. T taking up Odium was something he didn't decide upon until writing RoW. He might have foreshadowed for that eventuality way back in WoK, sure, but it does hurt it's likelihood of being true a little for me. 

On 2022-12-19 at 6:49 PM, Ati16 said:

This could refer to the heralds, but they didn't have Shardblades so I think this could mean the reforging of the oathpact. This could happen after the contest of champions when they have to fight against a giant army of fused and singers and they're leader is dead, then Navani could reforge the oathpact with the new heralds being Kaladin, Szeth, a Dustbringer that we haven't yet seen, Lift, Renarin, Shallan, Jasnah, Venli, a new Stoneward and Navani herself.

Reforging the Oathpact is a pretty popular theory, or was, at least. I myself like it, and think it would make a cool ending for SA5. I know a lot of people have issues with it though, and it might be too predictable, and would essentially reset the story to what it was at the start of WoK, but with people we know as Heralds instead and Taravangian as the holder of Odium instead of Rayse. Also, even if we get new Heralds in SA5, I strongly doubt that Lift or Jasnah would be among them. Lift is still a child, and I doubt she would be allowed to take up that kind of burden, and Jasnah is the queen of Alethkar. The people needs leaders and scholars, and she is both, and cannot be afforded to be lost to eternal damnation on Braize.

7 hours ago, Adamkarma said:

Shalash has the same Surges as Shallan, Illumination and Transformation. they both won't be New Heralds

Shalash has no surges, as far as we know. Her Honorblade grants Illumination and Transformation, but Nale was the only Herald to actually bond a spren and gain access to Surgebinding without his blade. It is feasible for Shalash to bond a spren of a different order than the Lightweavers if she so chooses/is deemed worthy. Common speculation pegs her as a potential Dustbringer, mostly because her recent penchant for destruction of various paintings and because the planned flashback-characters won't add up with the Orders of Radiants otherwise. 

1 hour ago, alder24 said:

They do see each other regularly

Yeah, sorry, I meant on-page conversations. Should have specified that xD

It was certainly a possibility.

On 2023-01-04 at 9:40 PM, AquaRegia said:

I like your idea, but seems like Marsh's future is more likely a fade to legend with possible occasional cameo.

I doubt this, for several reasons. One is that Brandon made a point of having him survive TLM, despite having the opportunity to kill him off. If I remember correctly, he even considered having Marsh die at the end of Era 1 originally, but changed his mind. I think that such a powerful (and popular) character as Marsh wouldn't be kept around for no purpose. If his only future is fading into legend he should probably be dead. 

The other main reason for why Marsh has a future is that he is sitting in quite an interesting position going into Era 3. He is essentially Sazeds right-hand-man at the moment, and has been serving Harmony since the merging of Ruin and Preservation. But now his maverick brother who he has... complicated history with, is hinted to be heading into a potential conflict with Sazed. If and when that happens, whose side will Marsh take? 

Furthermore, I think there is a lot left to explore with Kelsier and Marsh and their history. They did spend a couple scenes together back in TFE, but since then they basically haven't seen eachother, yet has gone through huge changes. Just dropping that relationship would be a mistake, especially since both brothers are still alive, unlike most characters from Era 1.

From TLM we know that Kelsier is recruiting agents from all around the Cosmere, and he has already gotten a couple characters we know from earlier stories (ie Shai). Is there anyone else in The Cosmere who you think might be a Ghostblood agent, or who could be a prime candidate for membership?

Not that into music, and a bunch of what I'm into is pop songs from my native Sweden, but here goes, some of my favorite new songs for the year:

*Wildfire by Against the Current
*Bones by Imagine Dragons
*Sharks by Imagine Dragons
*Run to the Hills by Klara Hammarström
*Till Our Days Are Over by Lillasyster
*The Drum by Alan Walker
*You lost me by Stefania
*Hold Me Closer by Cornelia Jakobs
*Selfish by Bow Anderson
*In i dimman by Medina

2 hours ago, Blackhoof said:

I think Discord will be inevitable in Era 3, and part of the plot will involve saving Sazed somehow from Discord, whether it be restabilizing him into Harmony or adding a third Shard to make him something new once more.

It would be hilarious if the entire plot of the Cosmere devolves into stacking Shards on Sazed. 

I do think there is some sense in looking to Kharbranth for book 5. For one, Shallan started her storyline there back in WoK, and it would be a nice circle should she return (and given that she is the main character whose role in book 5 is the least clear, I'd say she would likely be a POV in Kharbranth should we return there). We also have the case of Heralds. At least one is/has been in Kharbranth with Taravangian. 

However, I'm not sure that Taravangian being exposed would lead to a revolution in Kharbranth, or why anyone really would want to stir up trouble there. It is not a strategically super-important city. Geographically it is quite off-track from everything else. Even if Taravangian would start using it as a base for the forces of Odium, it would probably be lower priority than say Alethkar. I think any big battles in book 5 are more likely to be around the central or western parts of Roshar. 

I recently realized that Glen Powell (Hangman in Top Gun: Maverick) would be a great Kelsier. He has the charm, he can do the douchebag-act really well, and is charismatic enough to play the self-assured and compelling leader that Kelsier is. He is also around the right age for a TFE-Kelsier. 

I do like the idea of void-y chasmfiends, and I also think that they are way to big a part of the Roshar worldbuilding for Brandon to just drop them. However, they are most likely not Thunderclasts, those seem to be formed separately. Void-y creatures do generally not change their appearance that drastically beyond just looking a tad more evil. Chances are that voidy chasmfiends would look like normal chasmfiends, just a bit twisted and a tad more sinister.  

4 hours ago, Ookla the Pencil Taxi said:

Or maybe that was the only depiction of Voidbringers there was for thousands of years, and the "spren", aka souls, of the thunderclasts/Voidbringers became chasmfiendlike, because of human perception? Is that how that works? I'm not sure; I need to brush up on my Realmatic Theory.

The question of why they were imagined as Chasmfiends in the first place would still remain though... 

2 hours ago, CMac716 said:

And (minor sa5 prologue spoiler)

I'll spoiler-tag this for the minor prologue spoiler: 
 

I'm gone for a couple months and suddenly everyone likes Moash? Okay, I guess...

Anyway, I like Rock. He is pretty wholesome, really fun, and has an interesting background as our window into Horneater culture. Teft is amazing too, especially in RoW. Honorable mention to Skar for having the coolest name of the bunch.