Elkanah

Yep, Sorry. Doing that right now. Edit: fixed

Incident Report 17-01-766 First responders rushed to the scene of a fire in storage room L. They used CO2 extinguishers to keep the flames at bay until additional help could arrive. About ten minutes later reinforcements charged into the room wielding aluminum blankets. The fire was quelled, but any fire in the cognitive realm yields world changing dangers. It is expected that the culture of Sel will never recover. Their traditions are lost to their minds, and while we will try to pick up the pieces, there is a more dire threat. We must find the instigators. There was one casualty. The Young Pyromancer hasn't shown up for role call and it is assumed his was the body pulled from the flame, though the body was burned beyond recognition. Some argue this was his comeuppance, but it is possible more nefarious actors are at fault. The Young Pyromancer was lynched! He was a Loyal Intern. His background in physics did little to keep him from swift and violent retribution. After studying recent ballots, you have discovered he has been tampering with the intern-removal process. Action: Remove someone's vote, your vote will be assigned randomly to someone with at least one vote. Votes Young Pyromancer (4): Gears, Lotus, Lahilt Lahilt (3): Kasimir, StrikerEZ Lotus (2): Matrim, Illwei, Vapor Mint (2): Sart, Araris Araris (1): TJ Shade Sart (1): Player List

The Day is Over.

There's a little less than three hours left in the night. Make sure to get your actions in.

Haha, yeah, the cultists could have run away with the game if we didn't have to keep the practitioners alive. That was the hardest part.

Cycle is Closed. The night turn will be up in an hour Edit: Please cease PMing

This game was really fun! I needed a chance to get back on an elim team and this was the double elim which is the most elim I've ever been! It was such an interesting and delicate balance having to keep my enemies alive. There have been a lot of games where two factions had a hidden one among them (MR12 comes immediately to mind), but none this seamlessly balanced. Losing to the Korathi as soon as the JPs were gone meant we couldn't allow any mislynches. We needed to Korathi lynch only Korathi and JP lynch only JPs. We got lucky more times than we deserved as the cultists. Did Striker, Bard and Mist have a secret pm where you were coordinating? I'm really pleased I was able to change Mist's mind at the last minute, but Striker and Bard had my number. Well done you three! We only needed that one more lynch and it was over. Great job getting rid of Hael as well. Also, Thank you, Drake, for keeping the doc active. You truly were too dangerous to keep alive. Now that I've gone through the JPs. Here are some honorable Korathi. Congrats to Pyro for winning and living! After claiming cultist, you were the last person I'd have guessed to survive the game. Sorry for killing you so early, Straw. Those personalities I'm sure would have been great! A mention to Kasimir, who terrifies me. It's a good thing you weren't trying too hard or the game might have been a lot shorter. Also Gears. I'm going to have to watch out for you going forward. Kudos to my fellow cultists. We fought so hard and got so far, but in the end it didn't even matter. But seriously though, I loved my team. It had just the right amount of experience and a measured amount of riskiness. Thank you for putting up with me and my obsessive math. All in all, I think everyone played a good game. I look forward to the rerun Oh, I know it must have been rough being a pleb Korathi, but any abilities would have made this a completely different game, and I liked it how it was.

With about 24 Hours remaining in the Cycle, here is an official vote count: Illwei (2): TJ Shade, Frozen Mint StrikerEZ (1): Pyromancer Ashbringer (1): Araris Lahilt (1): Mist Frozen Mint (1): Kasimir Mist (1): Sart Devotary (1): Lahilt

OK we're going to call it there. Look for Day 1 to be up in about 45 Minutes!

I absolutely love this game. It's such a cool idea! A couple thoughts: The number of charges is a really difficult thing to balance. You have to have enough to build a decent elim team and protect them long enough to do so without dying first. Also since I know who Sja-Anat is by virtue of lynching them, why would I vote for anyone else for the rest of the game?

Devotary. Lord Silberfarben

That was an interesting train wreck of a cycle. I think I will Join Sart in voting for Lord Silberfarben. He has stayed active enough to avoid the filter, but is skating under the radar.

Ok, I'm going to respond to posts about me and then I will work on reads of others @Kasimir I regret not being able to keep that up. My spreadsheet still looks just like it did, but it took four hours to get it to that point and that was only half a cycle worth of posts. The cycles are having fewer posts now that we have fewer players, but every time I come back I get overwhelmed by the thought that I really should catch up on that. I'm afraid I'm not going to. I'll stick to the more traditional way of accusing people in paragraph format. That is a fair argument about being inflexible on the Ashbringer lynch. I wanted to come back with better reads, but I didn't follow through. I went back to voting on him for the second cycle because I didn't like the swing at the end of the cycle. It felt like eliminators trying to protect their own. I realize the JP's don't actually have incentive to protect each other but they haven't really had a problem with lynching us either. Upon reading this the first time I thought I understood what you meant by peripheral, but maybe I don't. I voted for the second place person in cycle 1 and the lynch target in cycle 2. I missed posting last cycle and didn't vote, but I feel like was doing all right for the first little while with giving reads and drawing lines... Although, it looks like I was very wrong about several of them. Gut reads right now are Hael - I don't remember his posts. He must have made some to still be alive, but I'll have to get back to you. Kas - Trying to solve the game. Despite voting for me feels genuine. slight trust Devotary - Swung vote to Mint Cycle 1. That has really colored my reading. I currently suspect JP, but I need to check again. Lord - Has only been checking in. Maybe a cultist trying to hide just under the inactivity filter. Bard - Just ninja'd me. I haven't read it yet though. Matrim - I seem to remember him disagreeing with my reads. With how wrong I have been maybe he knows something I don't. Slight distrust, but I'll go back and see if he was any more right than I was. Mist - Has been decently active and trying to solve the game. slight trust. Striker - Same as Lord Silberfarben Pyro - Made an interesting gambit cycle 1. My leading guess at the KC. It might be best to lynch him as a way to slow down the cultists since we have yet to find one. Sart - Suggested a plan cycle 1 that would have drastically altered the course of the game, then backed off of it. The backing off felt weird to me, but with that as the only data point he has done some good analysis. I want to say slight trust, but Kas has a good point that JPs can do good analysis too. Illwei - Asked a really weird question C1, and has been a large part of the subsequent lynches. I'm still not sure which way to go. Was put up as the alternate lynch to Ashbringer, but that could be Korathi - Korathi. So I suspect Devotary and Matrim of being JPs; and Lord Silberfarben and Pyromancer of being cultists. Okay, I just read Bard's post and since I have at least a slight trust of Mist, I will vote Matrim's Dice. I've been working on this post for an hour so I'll post what I have so I don't lose it and start working on my next one. EDIT I guess it wasn't a lot more I wanted to add to this thought. I believe I have answered this now. Because I won't get filter killed? I guess that's fair. It looks like everyone except Hael has posted this cycle and he posted last cycle, so the filter is doing its job.

Hi all, I'm sorry for my lapse in activity. I'm going to read last cycle and today's and get up some reads.

I'm going to put a placeholder vote on Ashbringer. I didn't have a lot of time last night, so I'll be updating my spreadsheet for the next little bit and I hope to have better reasons or a better target then.

I am reserving my judgement, but I will look at those again in that context. I was playing the Pronoun Game. I should have said "Sart is not new. I feel like Sart's plan is entirely within character from previous games I have played with him. He is often lynched for suggesting strategies no one else agrees with on day one." This was all in answer to the question asked in the post. Thank you Yes, I see. I should have been more clear. The first comment is you were focused on finding the JC and the second was you seemed focused on the JP win con - which is finding the JC. More specifically, you seemed a little put out that the JP might have a hard time winning if we didn't help them - which sounded to me like a request to help the JP. I wasn't sure why we should help the JP as their elimination is our only win condition. All that said, I agree that not using our lynch is a poor choice and ultimately unenforceable. People (I think Matrim and Shade) have brought up a few times that the JP would have to hammer to get the Korathi Cultist. I disagree. With the vote minimum at 1, all it would take is one person voting at the end of the cycle to kill their target and we still wouldn't even know if the voter was JP, JC, or just another Korathi with a hunch on who is JP. Therefore, I disagree Sart's plan shuts the JP out of the game, but I agree that we shouldn't follow it. Edit: Ninja'd by Kas @Kasimir I absolutely love all the places you keep finding these notes! I enjoy your play style greatly.

I'm finally caught up. Here are my thoughts on the first twelve-ish hours. I can't figure out how to make a spreadsheet, so I have a Link instead. TL;DR With the fifty posts available right now, I think Matrim's Dice, Ashbringer, Illwei, and maybe Kasimir are Jeskeri Practitioners. Frozen Mint might be a cultist. Straw is probably not a practitioner and that is good enough for me. I'll vote for Ashbringer for now. Current Vote Count: Sart (1): Kasimir TJ Shade (1): Straw Elkanah (1): Drake Straw (1): Sart Ashbringer (1): Elkanah Now to respond I am poked For now I am treating it the same. I find it interesting that the people we are hunting can't really hunt us back. Not only that, but they don't really want to except for the hidden cultist and their only tool to that end is our lynch. Most of my other responses and questions have already been brought up or resolved to my satisfaction for now. I'll take another look in the morning.

I've been going back and forth about playing this game, but we timed the LG to start just as this one should finish and I am feeling a little reckless. Please sign me up as Kaleno a merchant who sells only the finest in (slightly used) wares.

Welcome to the 17th Shard and the game! If you have any questions you can Private Message either of TGK or I and we would be happy to help you out. Edit @Ashbringer , the interns from ashyn are the elims. The rest of you interns are trying to find them.

I'm back. I'm here. I didn't mean to stab The God King, but he won't get lynched here anyway. I'm'a go back and read all of this. I stopped on page four or five. I'll see you all next turn.

Young Pyromancer for being the first person to post The man had never given his name. Some wondered if he even had one. In his own opinion, the more someone knew about him the more power they had over him. The only people who knew his real name were long dead. Some speculated he was the one who killed them. All rumors of course, but if he turned his steely gaze on you, you would begin to suspect too. He had a chiseled jawline and dark eyes with a fire behind them that revealed a secret fury not quite hidden by his controlled demeanor. Some might have even called him handsome if not for the quiet intensity with which he met anyone brave enough to speak with him. The man walked to the far side of the room surveyed the room with the wall to his back. Roughly two dozen suspects. It should be easy enough to work out who was whom. Even if he had to get a little rougher than he normally allowed himself, you can not make an omelet without cracking a few skulls as they say. The only question left was whose skulls he would be cracking. Ready to start, he leaned slightly to the person at his right and introduced himself. Young Pyromancer Actually, let's get discussion going. The God King, Are you the mole? @The_God_King Sadly I have not broken the game quite yet, but rest assured I am working on it. I'm a little disappointed I did not see the bets before hand. I would have joined in. Unfortunately, if I were to say I support the village now it just looks like I am kissing up and if I say I support the elims then I look like I am throwing the game or one of them. The Kandra is a fun choice, but I am willing to bet it is not them this game. On that note, since Kandra can not kill, they are the least of our worries and I recommend we spend no time trying to find them. As far as I am concerned, they are probably going to get taken out by the elims in the first few cycles. The Kandra loses as soon as the last elim dies which adds an interesting incentive for the Kandra to work with them. The problem is if the kandra ever reveals themself to the eliminators, the elims have no incentive to keep the kandra alive. The village also has no interest in keeping the kandra alive or dead. Whoever has this role, I wish you luck. More hot takes to come in the morning

So, I assume the loyalists have a kill. I can't find it in the rules, but elims usually do. Is that kill only available in the night and does it take one of your two actions?

Of course you're the boss, so you can change your mind up until the start of the game and still be entirely consistent. I am fairly confident I can break this either way.

Excellent Nothing to see here

Cool. Can I assume that holds true for all actions that are paired in the OoA?