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It's a distinction without a difference, that form of future-sight requires Investiture to use, ergo anyone with Investiture can use it. Abd the second example is an entirely passive one and also clearly does not care what form of Investiture you have, just that you have enough of it.
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Brandon had this to say about trying to spike a Nahel Bond. Don't need one, it's right there in the text. OB Spoiler
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That the strain of humanity currently on Roshar existed before the Shattering does not mean that humans were on Roshar before the Shattering, just that the humans who became the Rosharans existed prior to that point. The simplest explanation that fits what Brandon has said is that humans existed on Ashyn pre-Shattering, either because they travelled there somehow or Adonalsium put them there when he created the entire system. The evidence from Oathbringer points to there being no humans on Roshar until after the Shattering since the Eila Stele tells us that they were new to the singers when they arrived from Ashyn, and the text tells us that what's now Shinovar was their first home. That they brought (or were perceived to have brought) Odium with them firmly places the arrival of humanity on Roshar after the Shattering.
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Welcome to the rabbit hole that is the greater Cosmere! To answer where we get our information about them, a lot of what we know comes not from the books but from things Brandon has said outside them at events, online and so forth. He's been making an effort to slip more of this stuff into the published works so fans less obsessive than us can start to get this information without having to actively seek it out. If you haven't read Mistborn Secret History yet, it's got the most concise explanation of the Shards and the big picture of the setting in any published work. There's also the essays that serve as section headers in Arcanum Unbounded and which contain information on each of the star systems (except Nalthis) that we've seen so far, including comments on their resident Shards. If you want to take the plunge for yourself, take a look at the top of the page and you'll see a link to a site called Arcanum. It's a compilation of all of the 'Words of Brandon', or most of them at any rate since it started with the newer ones and the arcanists that maintain it are working backwards.
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Manipulating Fortune is what F-Chromium does. We're not quite sure how it works in practice but we know that it influences Fortune. 'Foresight' in the general sense of being able to anticipate the future based on experience and probability is not a stealable trait (it would be something more general like the Blessing of Presence granting increased mental ability) but if you found another method of accessing the Spiritual Realm or using Fortune, you could theoretically spike that. For example, A-Atium lets you see the future and you could spike the ability to burn that. That aside, most methods we're currently aware of that grant future-sight aren't things that can be stolen via hemalurgy. The way the Returned see the future can't be stolen with a spike and Renarin's ability can't be stolen because you can't steal a Nahel Bond in that way. However, anyone with enough Investiture can use Fortune even if they aren't consciously trying to do so. OB Spoiler So, anything you can steal hemalurgically that makes you highly Invested could give you a way of manipulating Fortune, though the examples we've seen of this also require an external factor. There are undoubtedly other methods of future-sight that would be easier to steal with hemalurgy, we just don't know them yet. Well actually, we do know that Hoid has a way to manipulate Fortune and it's theoretically possible to spike things out of him so it's possible you could steal that if you know exactly what you're doing, but it might have weird results.
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Yes, if you've become a lighteyes via bonding a Shardblade you can pass it on to your children because it's become part of your sDNA that you pass onto your descendants. Most (though apparently not all) of the lighteyed families got started this way, by the first generations after the Recreance who nabbed all the Shardblades. In the case of children, it's a very interesting social phenomenon that Brandon has discussed but the upshot is that you can have a child with light eyes, dark eyes or heterochromia (one of each). You can read the WoB for lots of information on how children of 'mixed eye' couples are treated, as well as Vorin rank structures generally.
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People have described why Autonomy is the most likely candidate through process of elimination many times, including in this topic. We know that 'Trell' is a Shard that we know of. Many of the Shards (Ambition, Devotion, Dominion and Honor) are splintered and thus in no position to be Trell. Odium and Cultivation are busy on Roshar and there are meta reasons why neither makes sense as Trell (also, we think we've seen Odium's godmetal and we know we've seen Cultivation's in alloy form and neither look like 'Trellium'). Endowment is not interested in affairs beyond Nalthis, disapproves of Shards meddling in one another's affairs and has no reason to go after Scadrial. That leaves Autonomy, who we know for a fact interferes on other worlds and co-opting an existing religion (or possibly creating one as part of a long-term plan) fits exactly with how Brandon has described Autonomy's actions. Also, Bavadin is female. On more given days than not at least.
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It would fill at the normal rate from the feruchemist's point of view, given how time passes for those inside any of Wayne and Marasi's bubbles. We have a WoB about Investiture leaking from a gemstone that invokes the same principle. If the rate of 'Investiture transfer' changed inside the bubble, the above wouldn't make sense. Using Wayne as an extra illustration, when he's seen from an outside observer he's incredibly fast but when seen from his own persoective he's no faster than normal. There's no reason why he would store more or less speed based on being inside or outside a bubble. Or to use his specific powers, he wouldn't tap or store more or less health than normal in his own frame of reference. Let's imagine that a Bloodmaker ferring and Wayne both have an equal-sized goldmind and they both fill it for ten seconds, but Wayne does it while inside a speed bubble which he puts up as soon as he starts storing and drops as soon as ten seconds have passed in his frame of reference. Comparing both goldminds at the end you'd have the same amount of Investiture, Wayne would just fill his faster from the perspective of the ferring. Now, if Wayne kept up a bubble for ten seconds from the perspective of the ferring and stored for all that time, he would have more health stored in his goldmind than the ferring even though both appear to have store for the same length of time to an outside observer, but from Wayne's perspective he's been storing for something like eight times longer.
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Brandon discussed plans for other works set in the Aether world (or possibly a rewrite of the world) and at a signing I asked him about Pagerunner's theory on Syl originating in those old plans and Brandon confirmed it. So at one point Brandon was thinking of an Aether that granted flight, though we don't know the mechanism he intended to use for it. Might have been wind/pressure manipulation, might have been gravity, might have been invisible elves for all we know. xD The only other Aether we know anything about is Duskr from the Liar of Partinel excerpts and given how short those were, pretty much all we can say is 'this is an Aether that at one point existed as an idea in Brandon's head' without knowing what it or any Aethers in Liar could really do. Since that cannibalization didn't work out well and is now redundant, the idea may not ever reappear. I kind of like the idea that its genesis was thinking of a new and more creative name for Night but I have no evidence for that other than the superficial link of Dusk(r) > Darkness > Night. That's not a bad pairing and their functions do map nicely with how allomantic metals are paired up. Speaking of metals, Brandon had a discussion about Investiture manifesting as metal and the Aethers were brought up as being non-metallic, which included both an unprompted mention of Verdant on Brandon's part and a suggestion that they could be a very weird metal with a low boiling point. Anyhow, Brandon could be considering using Verdant or a variation of it in the rewrite since he brought it up (or it could be he's just mentioning it as an Aether we know of right now) and it could indicate that the Aethers aren't condensed Investiture in the same way that a Shardblade or a bead of atium is but are something different. At the very least, we know that Amberite is still in and it's a crystal. I can't think of any that look like that description that don't include non-metallic elements.
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Shardblades are a mix of Honor and Cultivation's Investiture, while the Honorblades are presumably pure 'Tanavastium
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Depends on the books. In some of them he (and any extended plotlines related to him) gets a hefty chunk of the screentime and in others he doesn't appear much or at all. Also, I suspect you're going to like Book 4, just saying.
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[OB] Honor died eight months ago?!? + An Obituary
Weltall replied to KalaDANG's topic in Stormlight Archive
Psssst, double-posting is considered bad form. Now, all your thoughts about Leras dying when confronted by Ruin are predicated on the assumption that their situation is equivalent to Honor and Odium. They're not. Khriss in Secret History notes that what's going on there is very different from Shards being splintered elsewhere and that Ruin either doesn't have the power to splinter another Shard (which we know is not the case with Odium as he's done it multiple times) or he doesn't know how (also very obviously not the case with Odium). Also, Leras left himself practically mindless as part of his scheme to hold back Ruin and once the latter was free to act, his actual death followed within a year at most, not thousands of years. So, we know that Honor was in a state not unlike that of Leras shortly before his death, that he was in this state around the time of the Recreance and he was facing a Shard that was far more informed and capable of properly splintering another. The idea that Honor could survive for two thousand years (and it's nearer that than one thousand) of that kind of assault is simply impossible to credit. -
Given that Brandon has confirmed that the mystery godmetal is from a Shard that we know and that the Shard is associated directly with the metal (ie, no convoluted theories about one Shard stealing another's godmetal) we know that in fact, whoever is going after Scadrial is one of the Shards we've already seen.
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[OB] Honor died eight months ago?!? + An Obituary
Weltall replied to KalaDANG's topic in Stormlight Archive
Tanavast was dying at the time of the Recreance (a fact confirmed by the Stormfather and by Brandon) and was actually dead well before the present day. He even tells Dalinar in his final WoK vision that by the time anyone is seeing this, he's dead, sorry about that. And as mentioned, we know for a fact that Gavilar was seeing the same visions as Dalinar and he died some five years before Kaladin said that line. Given that the visions stop at the Recreance and the only one to show anything past that point is one that Tanavast admits is conjecture on his part, we can safely put the time of his actual death at thousands of years before the start of the series. -
[OB] Okay, so who exactly had the cold?
Weltall replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
The common cold has a very short incubation period (three to five days from infection to the appearance of symptoms) so if it was brought to Roshar before the Purelake interlude, there should have been signs of it well before Dalinar first hears reports of a 'plague', even if you assume that the elevated Investiture of Rosharans helped stave off the onset for a time. Now, the WoB we have about the origin of the plague doesn't specifically say it was those three but only mentions that it was worldhoppers (as a paraphrase, it's possible Brandon was more specific at the actual event) but given the aforementioned incubation period and the fact that the 'plague' is confined to a single region where we know three worldhoppers were present and it's a pretty safe assumption that it was those three regardless. -
Jasnah appears to know Hoid solely due to his position as King's Wit and we have WoB that she is not Cosmere-aware. In other words, she doesn't know all the details of what Hoid really is (same as us...). As for the reaction to Ivory-as-Shardblade, we know that Hoid can heal the Spiritual damage caused by a Shardblade so he's being completely straightforward in saying that Jasnah isn't a real threat to him. I read that as him getting Jasnah to talk to him (annoying as she finds him) rather than to try to bully him with a big stick by pointing out that he's immune to said stick. But not immune to Stick of course. Stick rules all. @Quantus Hoid can be harmed physically but he basically needs to 'turn off' his healing in order for that to happen. Otherwise his Spiritual ideal pretty much instantly overrides whatever you do to his body. About the only things we know that are seriously dangerous to him are the Shards, the Dor (really just a subset of the first category) and Nightblood.
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I have a feeling that the spren would not be happy about this and would try to pull out of their mostly-Physical form before they could be 'burned'. And there may be a minimum-size threshold in the same way that we know there's an upper limit to how big a sprenblade can get, and a minimum size for how small a kandra can be, which would make it hard to actually swallow. It would probably be a far better thing for all concerned for the mistborn to grab a piece of Plate, chip off a bit and try to burn that first and see what it does. Which if the theory about Plate being 'lesser' spren is correct would probably do something related to the type of spren in question. But assuming all your hypotheticals, my guess is that the spren would not die but their personality would be destroyed in the process or at least badly damaged. The Investiture that the spren is made of can't be destroyed outright but it can change form. Maybe the spren would reform itself but the part of its spiritweb that says 'This is who I am' would be gone, spliced in some way to the mistborn's own. And you wouldn't have a bond with the 'new' spren. Any power received would probably relate to either inhaling Stormlight or use of the associated Surges of the specific Order. Or, worst case scenario for all concerned, the act of trying to burn a living spren results in the bond breaking before their Physical form can be completely burned, they die and become locked into their default 'Gimormous Sword' form... while still inside the mistborn. Ouch.
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Ehhhhh, that one's debatable. Scadrial in Era 1 is definitely not a fun place to be but on the other hand, neither is Roshar and life there has been sucky for even longer stretches of time. Scadrial had a thousand years and some change of Rashek's theocracy and then the aftermath that let to the Catacendre but after that it's become the nicest place to be in general. Roshar at the time of the books is coming out of thousands of years of relative peace, which still involved wars between human and mostly-human civilizations, several attempted or actual genocides (the Scouring of Aimia), a False Desolation and the mass enslavement of an entire race. And before that there were Desolations that were miniature apocalypses that potentially reset all civilization back to stone age levels occuring on an increasingly regular basis... and now another one has started so Roshar is a really bad place to be. Not to mention that Hoid, used to much nicer environments, had this exchange: So yeah, Roshat's got lethally unpleasant weather and giant crustacean-ish monsters, along with all the fun and exciting warfare and the larger system being home to Odium. Brandon has said that Kelsier on Roshar would be a really interesting thing, because a core aspect of his character is that he's skirting right on the line between hero and villain. His environment helped channel him in the former direction (because he had someone to fight against who made him look good by comparison) but as we saw in Era 2, someone thinking like Kelsier three hundred years later was undeniably a villain. And if he were on Roshar at certain points in its history, Odium would probably have loved him as a perfect unwitting agent. Anyhow, point being that environment is a huge factor in shaping the characters but it's not the only thing.
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Spikes can be pretty small (Vin's earring) so just going with the idea for fun, you could definitely get a spike into a chipmunk. And we know that hemalurgy works on animals (but not plants) so pretending you had a sociopathic sapient chipmunk with Epic powers, sure, you could make it more powerful via hemalurgy. As for what powers and what weakness they'd have.. depends, are they the one wearing the fedora or the aloha shirt?
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Awwww, silly reality ruining my joke... but in seriousness that's an Oops Moment on my part where I didn't check the topic title carefully. Like Calderis says, the context is Silence worrying that the recent activity would draw the attention of 'one of the Deepest Ones' so it certainly sounds like an even nastier version of the regular Shades, but something that still operates within the framework of the Simple Rules. We might get more details in the planned Threnody novella. If not, someone could always ask Brandon but a quick perusal of Arcanum suggests that almost every question he's already been asked about the book boils down to 'Where's Hoid?!' or other broader Cosmere topics, so there's not much by way of existing WoBs to work with.
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FYI, the Coppermind hasn't quite kept pace with developments in our understanding of the Cosmere (it's something that's being worked on) but yeah, in general it's a wiki devoted to all things Brandon Sanderson and the Cosmere is the biggest part of it. Though you can also find material on his non-Cosmere works like the Reckoners trilogy and the Rithmatist. When you want the most up-to-date material, check out Arcanum (there's a link right at the top of the Shard) which is specifically devoted to cateloguing what Brandon has said outside the books themselves. It's got a search engine and you can generally find anything you're looking for with a minimum of fuss. And browsing it is a very easy way to eat up a few spare hours. xD
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FYI, Brandon has indeed confirmed that Ati was deliberately trying to channel his Shard's Intent towards a less destructive end while Rayse/Odium is different. In general, we know that how much the Shard affects the personality of the Vessel is a case-by-case situation. Whether a Vessel's personality will be overridden or merely influenced is dependant on the Vessel, Rayse and Odium are a good match for each other and this is part of why Odium doesn't try to take the power of any other Shard, and one reason Sazed is somewhat less influenced by his (conflicting) Intents is his own personality and there are other Shards that are similarly less affected by the pressures of their Intent than others.
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We have the 'negative evidence' that Khriss would surely have called this out if she knew about it (and she's the person who would know) in Arcanum Unbounded and we also know that Odium does not want to Invest any more than he absolutely has to, as part of his general modus operandi. We can strongly assume that he didn't create Braize directly because the entire system was made by Adonalsium, not just Roshar. And because the amount of Investiture required to create a planet would go straight agaisnt Odium's usual way of doing things and is likely impossible under his Intent. And we have WoB that the numberic correspondences are linked to planets rather than Shards so the fact that Braize has a different 'signature number' than Roshar isn't enough in itself to suggest Odium's direct involvement. See my earlier post. We don't know of any magic systems that currently work this way (Blades on Roshar excepted) but there are some potential applications on other worlds that could work that way, at least one way you could make it work through Surgebinding and who knows what magic systems might exist on worlds we've yet to see.
