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As already mentioned, Forton's potions on Elantris are Invested and those might be able to bypass some resistance granted by other forms of Investiture. There's also the solution used in Warbreaker to kill Lemex; use lots and lots of poison to bypass that Investiture-granted immunity. If someone doesn't have an active healing power like Stormlight or F-Gold but just an increased natural resistance, that might work provided you can administer it. For someone with active healing, it's a lot harder since they can recover from almost anything as long as they have enough of whatever it is that drives their particular brand of healing. Doesn't really matter with Stormlight healing because like pretty much all forms of healing magic it doesn't really care about whether or not your body can break down the poison, it just wipes your Physical slate clean and restores the way it 'should' be according to your Spiritual template. If a Bloodmaker who's tapping their stored health at the right time can survive bisection (which needless to say a normal human cannot) poison is going to be a cakewalk. The only thing that would really matter would be if the Surgebinder has enough Stormlight available to heal themselves.
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One word: Gravity.
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As mentioned, no amount of creative Abrasion use plus Stormlight healing can make a human fly by flapping their arms or glide; they just can't produce enough lift to overcome the weight of the human body. Combining Abrasion with Gravitation could do some cool things, though given that a Windrunner could use their two Surges in combination to travel to one of Roshar's moons with enough knowledge and Stormlight you're unlikely to beat that Order in terms of versatility as it pertains to flight. Now, combine Abrasion and Stormlight healing with Steelrunning from the Mistborn books and you've got something really insane.
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What is this 'our' of which you speak? I'll stick to modified Heraclitian relativism, thank you very much.
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True, though it's still pretty much 99% Windrunners plus Renarin. But fair point on the ideal of service. Well, I suppose you could write up a summary for what you'd like to see, post it and see if anyone's interested in writing it... My Harry Potter knowledge is pretty minimal and I've got non-Cosmere crackfic I'm working on right now, or I'd give it a go. xD https://www.17thshard.com/forum/forum/13-sanderson-fan-works/
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All the non-Windrunners might find that name... Orderist? Ordercentric? Presumably the school's going to be training everyone except maybe Bondsmiths; kinda hard to teach them when you can only have three at a time. Though imagining Dalinar as the school's headmaster is a pretty storming awesome thought.
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According to Brandon, this should be possible:
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Roshar was created by Adonalsium as the Cosmere's ultimate supercomputer, to determine the Question of Life, the Universe and Everything. The Answer of course is already known: Sixteen. Assuming that Adonalsium had a purpose beyond 'Hey, I had a really cool idea for a world, let's see if I can make it work!' then the Shards definitely don't know what it was. Frost chides Hoid for meddling in things he doesn't understand in the WoR epigraphs and by extension the Shards as well, likening them all to infants stumbling around in a workshop. Frost assumes that Adonalsium had some sort of grand design in mind but even he doesn't know what it might have been. Whether that's true and if so whether his grand design is still operating or whether the changes the Shards have wrought on the Rosharan system and the Cosmere in general have upset the plan is more than we'll be able to say until Dragonsteel comes out. Related to this, It's very strongly implied that Adonalsium had exceptional future-sight (whether this included seeing beyond the Shattering being a RAFO) but the WoB is obscured by background noise so we aren't sure exactly what form the question took.
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It doesn't, anyone in the Cosmere who goes through a similar experience to Szeth could hear them as well. The reason Szeth hears screams and Vin doesn't could easily have to do with how they feel about the people they killed; Szeth is burdened by a ton of guilt over his actions while Vin generally isn't. Remember her reaction to being asked if she's a good person? I'm not a good person or a bad person. I'm just here to kill things. If you want to speculate on why she's killed lots of people and doesn't hear anything, I suggest that line is a good place to start looking for an explanation.
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International House of Radiance. Motto: Breakfast before Lunch, Syrup before Butter, Waffles before Pancakes ...in retrospect, letting Lift name the school was probably a mistake.
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The rumor that flangria is secretly made of...
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Plot to steal the wedding cake because it's...
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They haven't actually, or they wouldn't continue to be bound to the greater Rosharan System. It's that star system that they're tied to, not Roshar specifically. The Mistborn spoiler example given previously involves a system where there isn't anywhere else within that system that has a Cognitive presence, so there's really nowhere else to go once you hit the edge of Scadrial that doesn't count as leaving the system. By contrast, Roshar's got two other 'zones' in the CR that one can travel to without having to actually leave the system as a whole. But yeah, in the wake of Oathbringer Hoid is temporarily stuck in the Rosharan System because of his spren but we know he won't stay bound for very long.
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Aluminum Savantism is very difficult to attain and Brandon's current thinking for what it would do if you could reach that point is something different: @Kramerfarve The only metal that can be alloyed and 'targeted' in the manner you're thinking is lerasium, which can be alloyed with the sixteen basic metals and burned allomantically to make the user a super-powerful misting of that metal, instead of a mistborn. We don't know what relationship lerasium alloys have to the base metal powers in feruchemy or hemalurgy, if any. We don't know enough about atium alloys to determine if those result in predictable allomantic powers based on the base metal, but since we're told they all have temporal or mental effects they're unlikely to be as clear-cut as lerasium alloys. Same caveat for atium alloys in feruchemy/hemalurgy as lerasium since we have no clue what any godmetal alloys do in those systems right now.
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Under the circumstances, 'pilot' and 'master' are synonyms so you're trying to draw a distinction that doesn't exist. M-Bot figured out how to work around the limitation in his programming that were imposed by his former pilot and having done that once, it's now a part of him and he can do it again more easily. Not every slightly ambiguous word choice in Brandon's books is foreshadowing. Just most of them.
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Yeah, and if you plan on reading the later Mistborn Eras as they're written you're going to want to know about the intermediate step too, since I can only imagine how jarring a transition from Era 1 to the 1980's aesthetic we're supposed to get in Era 3 would be... Karger pretty much nailed it. Reading a couple of other books in between HoA and Alloy of Law can help a lot with the transition. It actually works really well, you just need to manage your expectations.
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Brandon has said on multiple occasions that humans on Yolen pre-Shattering were a Bronze Age society. While this could change when it's rewritten, right now that's what we're working with and it's what the excerpts from Dragonsteel Prime establish. Humans are aware of iron and steel but aren't able to produce it in quantity, though the Sho Del are. As for technology levels, these really depend on the planets and in many cases the applications of Investiture naturally skew the development of technology in one way or another. Scadrial had guns and steam power before Rashek's Ascension and even after he forced society to drop a few rungs on the tech tree (except in carefully chosen areas that fit with his long-term plans) the planet still has a much more advanced understanding of metallurgy than the general level of technology would sugest, because of how important it is to the Metallic Arts. In other words, they've advanced, regressed and are now advancing again. Roshar's undergone frequent apocalyptic events that potentially wiped the board clean back to Stone Age levels, and even with time to rebuild their advancement is both hindered and helped by Roshar's Cruel And Unusual Meteorology, and the ambient Investiture. Gunpowder for instance isn't likely to be developed easily there since the higher oxygen content makes experimenting with things that burn just a bit riskier than it already is in the real world. Medical knowledge is both helped by things like rotspren (which let you see when there's an infection and whether your treatment is working) and hindered by the fact that all that ambient Investiture makes people healthier on average so there's less reason to dig too deeply into the mechanics of disease. Case in point: They see the common cold as a terrifying plague outbreak. Other examples of advanced technology we've seen include the Mainlanders on First of the Sun having steam power, Taldain having gunpowder (and random bits of advanced technology stuck in the background of the graphic novels...) and Threnody also having gunpowder even if it's very dangerous to use and it's implied they had even more advanced technology in Homeland but being forced to flee and live in the Forests of Hell has caused them to lose some of what they had and makes it really hard to develop new technology. Oh, and the city of Elantris was really advanced when it was functioning, using AonDor for things like light, heat and transportation. There's not much need to develop pure technology when you have one of the most flexible magic systems in the Cosmere.
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Rashek knew that atium didn't belong there and deliberately obfuscated things in order to 'hide' metals so only trusted servants knew about them. It didn't completely hide the fact that there could be other viable metals (given that Shezler was investigating their existence) but Ruin had a hand in arranging for that experimentation in order to put Kelsier where he wanted him. Point being, Rashek knew of aluminum as an allomantic metal, knew that there were sixteen and the only reason that more people didn't know this and the TFE charts were wrong is because he spread misinformation on purpose. Yeah, we know this. That doesn't mean that aluminum can't also be an allomantic metal, especially since two Shards played a more active role in developing the Metallic Arts. Preservation deliberately used the number sixteen as his signature, which only works if there are exactly that many non-godmetals. We know that Preservation tweaked things to make the numbers work (meaning he bumped one of the metals out in order to make atium mistings a thing) and it seems aluminum was the one. In other words, both Brandon the God Beyond and the local god of the setting treat aluminum as one of the sixteen allomantic metals. The only times Khriss speaks outside of the Ars Arcana is when she's talking with Kelsier or grilling Wax on his Twinborn mechanics, so no, there's no point at which it would make sense for her to discuss aluminum. Given that we know those documents are written from her best knowledge and she's consistent in identifying aluminum as one of the sixteen (and literally every post-TFE source does so as well) Occam's Razor really should make the answer to your question obvious.
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Where does a blind person into the Rosharan Caste system
Weltall replied to Turin Turambar's topic in Stormlight Archive
As mentioned (Hoid even brings it up in the WoK epilogue) the system makes sense internally in Vorin lands: The Heralds are basically the equivalent of angels in church theology and the Knights Radiant could do many of the same things as the Heralds, actually better in many respects but people don't remember that. However, people do remember that the Radiants eyes changed color when summoning their blades (or at least, that there was an association between being a Radiant and having light eyes) and Deadeye Shardblades cause the same color change when they're bonded so there's a reinforcement of the idea that Light Eyes Are Special. It's had a couple thousand years to become ingrained in the culture by the time we get to the books. As for blind people in Vorin lands, most who are blind have eyes that look perfectly normal, they just don't function completely or at all. They'd be in whatever rank was appropriate for their eye color and social status. Those people whose eyes do become cloudy due to the cause of their blindness would be in whatever position they should have been in. And yes, the first humans on Roshar were immigrants from Ashyn but there are other groups who arrived later and came from elsewhere, like the Iriali. -
Actually, Lawyerform could be really handy if you happen to be a singer Radiant like Venli. Loophole-abuse your way around Ideals that you don't really like! How about Popstarform? Gives you powers not unlike a Rioter for a short time, then you get forced to switch spren and become something like Hasbeenform or Scandalform.
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@bxcnch@Scion of the Mists There's also historical examples of this which Brandon probably drew on directly, most obviously the religious orders of the Knights Templar and the Knights Hospitaller.
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Anyone can receive Breath because it automatically keys itself to your Identity and gives you the means to use it. For example, we've known for some time that Hoid has Breath (he mentions to Kaladin that tuning his instruments became much easier with perfect pitch) and we see him Awakening a doll in the epilogue to Oathbringer. Rashek would probably never be free from Ruin because it's not the atium compounding that gave Ruin his influence; he generally works through people with hemalurgic spikes but he can speak to people without them, it's just harder to get through and he can't directly control them. See Vin's mother for an example of an unspiked individual he was able to manipulate.
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It's possible to travel to other worlds while you're bonded to a spren just like it's possible to worldhop while you're a Cognitive Shadow like the Heralds and it's not super-hard to do but it requires some knowledge (WoB contains a Mistborn spoiler). Hoid may or may not have already known the trick going in but if he didn't then he's probably going to either figure it out quickly or track down someone on Roshar who could tell him how it works. He already knows one person he could go to who's figured it out (assuming he's aware they're on Roshar at least) and it probably wouldn't be too hard for him to get ahold of Khriss (by way of Nazh, who's been hanging around the same parts of Roshar) if he needed to since she's almost certain to be able to tell him how to do it, at least from a theoretical perspective.
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1. 'Because Hoidsense'. As he tells Shallan (and we've known from WoB) he uses some application of Fortune to know where he needs to be, but not why. He's pretty convinced in that scene that the reason he was drawn to Kholinar at that time was to find that Cryptic. Why? Because Fate Says So. In the more Watsonian vein, bonding anything but a Highspren was largely impossible for a stretch of several thousand years and he might not have really needed full Lightweaving capabilities earlier when it might have been easier to find a Cryptic looking for a bond partner, or he might not have known how to get a spren offworld at the time. Hoid knows almost everything but he's not omniscient. 2. He may not actually know where to find them, or he may know the Shin have them but for whatever reason he chose not to grab one of the appropriate blades. Or possibly since an Honorblade's bond is shallower it would have some limiting effect on his ability to Lightweave that he doesn't want. 3. Because the only two things we know for a fact have Hoid genuinely worried for his safety are Nightblood and Rayse, with the other Shards being a distant third. Looking to bond a splinter of Odium is quite literally the last thing Hoid would ever want to do since he knows that Rayse wants very much to kill him (to the point that Hoid thinks he'd destroy an entire city on the chance he might kill him in the process) and has the power to do it. Plus, as we've seen bonding Yelig-nar is storming deadly to your health so even if it was connected to some completely different shard that wouldn't bring down the literal wrath of god on Hoid's head, I don't think he'd want to take that chance.
