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  1. Amanuensis
    I was the one that attacked Phatt. As promised I am removing the inactives systematically. My hope was that it would cause the others to wake up and get involved more, but it seems like that list is just increasing.\ EDIT #1 Also, it seems you missed PK, Lopen. EDIT #2 Also, since I'm still alive, a vote: Lopen. Everything you're saying just makes too much sense, which is terrible for my team's health, and I really don't like you voting for my team mate. EDIT #3 Later retracted vote on Lopen.
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    Sorry about that; fixing now.
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    Mick Who? EDIT for clarification this was a joke. I know who Mick Jagger is
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    I like how apparently I'm the devil when I've debatably been more helpful to the village than all of the players who I've killed off with my cooking combined Just saying, Agrigar in the write up was right. Diagrammist or not, I still consider myself a Son of Honor and as such have stayed true to my word. I felt bad for lying about Mail last cycle, but there was a chance a Scholar would scan him and reveal that he was (Transformed) to a Son of Honor and I really didn't want to deal with that conversation That being said, feel free to doubt that the information I've shared so far is not really all true. When this game's all over and you realize the doubt was all for naught I just hope ya'll don't mind if I help myself to a tall glass of I-told-you-so EDIT: Also, for added proof, Elkanah can confirm that Mail was indeed an Assassin as they role claimed to one another in a PM. Feel free to share that with the class :] as such, I also know his role. But will keep that to myself unless he wants me to out him.
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    @Kas: Sorry if it seems that I'm misrepresenting your points. For pretty much all of these I just tried to paraphrase with different words out of habit against plagiarism. Whole point of me making sure there are working links is so that people can go see the posts for themselves instead of relying on my summary alone. The summaries are more so my interpretation of what's being said and are meant to be a reference so you know which link goes where and how I feel about the contents. Anyway, the reason why I didn't bother substantiating it is for the same reason I didn't substantiate my suspicious of Wyrm until he confronted me about it. If I go ahead and tell the players that I'm truly suspicious of why I'm suspicious of them or even that they are on my radar, than it will encourage tham to be more careful. As it stands I have no serious evidence, let alone a large enough quantity of it, to condemn anyone. Also when it comes to you in particular the reason why you're pinging red for me has to do with private information that I would be willing to discuss with you in PM but would rather keep it from the Spiked. And also, I really don't think SE Suicide is the right answer for you in this situation. Panda also had two votes along with Wyrm and there's enough single votes scattered about that you could easily pursue an entirely different target. If you're not evil, what's the point in getting yourself killed when you could swing the vote on someone that you don't know is absolutely good. You know? Also, you know I voted for Hero, right? Granted I didn't explain my reasoning very well (If my arguments are confusing to y'all it's likely because I'm bloody tired from being awake for over 28 hours now and I'm pretty sure I got a concussion the other day so I'm rather far from clear headed) You express suspicions of Hero and ask all these questions of him, but don't vote for him along with me to add some pressure? He has viewed the thread since I voted for him so the fact that he has not yet responded to it is equally suspicious to him ignoring Hellscythe earlier. So yeah. I just really don't get the whole self voting thing. Second edit. Elby retracted from Wyrm anyway so he's actually only got the one vote, now it's just Panda and you tied for the lead. So yeah. Self-vote is still irrelevant. Third edit. Up to date vote tallies. Any mistakes? Chronological Order With Strikes (1) Lopen: Hael (1), Venture (1), (0) Venture: Mail (1), (2) Panda: Stink (1), Elkanah (1), (2) Kas: Hero (1), Kas (2) (1) Wyrm: Hell (1), Elby (1), Mark (1), (1) Hell: Araris (1), (0) Phatt: Mail (2), (1) Hael: Orlok (1), (0) Araris: Kas (1), (1) Sart: Kas (1), (1) Ada: Hael (2), Wyrm (1) (1) Bort: Hael (3), (1) Hero: Ada (1), (1) Orlok: Mail (3), Descending Order Without Strikes (2) Panda: Stink (1), Elkanah (1), (2) Kas: Hero (1), Kas (2), (1) Wyrm: Hell (1) (1) Lopen: Venture (1), (1) Hell: Araris (1), (1) Hael: Orlok (1), (1) Bort: Hael (3), (1) Hero: Ada (1), (1) Orlok: Mail (1),
  6. Amanuensis
    Alright, I can explain what my initial thoughts on the matter were. It's mostly just your first post, and what I personally think is poor advice that favors the Spiked over us. Wyrmhero - Posted 26 December 2015 - 12:22 PM Paragraph one. It's good advice that I frequently bring up, most notably in your recent Long Game. Having additional votes like this, even if the people who can make them come in true decide to follow through or not, gives us a significant amount of information to work with. If not for the Kandra scan votes I wouldn't have figured out that Araris was a Traitor as early as I did. While you could certainly be a villager suggesting this because no one else had yet and that it honestly is a good way to boost activity and information in these games, I could also see a Spiked person doing the same thing to lessen suspicion of themselves. I mean, generally we agree that eliminators want to limit information that the village receives, not expand it, so in suggesting it there's a chance you plant the idea that you're totally not evil into the heads of a few players who might come to your defense when it matters. Personally I'm more inclined to believe that a player who does things like this is the latter. This totally isn't me judging you for making a me move because I didn't get to suggest it first Paragraph two. This is the bad advice I was referring to. I really don't think that using our kills like these benefits the village. As the Diagrammist Cook in the ongoing MR10 I purposely did just this as it was a relatively guilt free way for me to reduce the numbers of the village considerably while keeping more and more information away from the innocents. Honestly I believe it's best to avoid killing as villagers because the longer we keep inactives alive the longer the game goes on and the more time we have to figure things out. That's all, really. Just two things that made me want to keep a closer eye on you. None of this is damning or anything, just things that stuck out to me at the time.
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    Well to be fair, Hellscythe, I did post summaries like these in LG15b where I was also good. Has nothing to do with my alignment. That being said, I keep starting them again because a lot of players (albeit not all) find them useful. Anyway, like I had attempted to do with MR10 I will be posting links to these posts in my signature so that anyone can quickly navigate the game in search of posts. Also if the Spiked decide to kill me anytime soon, so long as I get the permission from Meta, I will continue to post one every cycle just minus any personal comments so that way it's just a pure table of contents with summaries. AG2 Night 1 Post Summaries & Quick Links Key: Black = Player Summary, Blue = GM Summary, Purple = Personal Comments Haelbarde: Asks GM for player list. Edits one into his post anyway. Metacognition: Responds that he will continuously update the original threads and quick link to it in every write up. Haelbarde: Says he will likely do quick links himself due to a convenient turn over time. Kasimir: Responds to Hael’s offer of doing quick links referencing it as potential armor. Haelbarde: Ninja emoticon. Herowannabe: Jokingly asks for peace among factions. Provides advice for the two roles he had in previous iterations. Coinshit: If innocent, refrain from killing anybody until you have some evidence in order to prevent an unnecessary loss of life. Alternatively use your kills to pick off inactive players to discourage eliminators from hiding in the shadows. If evil jokes about you not killing anyone. Tineye: Make good use of your anonymous messages so that if necessary you can claim. @Everybody: Advocates PM safety and to keep roles to yourselves, even if Vanilla, in order to prevent the Spiked from getting too much info. Wyrmhero: Proposes lynch discussion even though it’s a Night Turn to encourage activity and that as opposed to Hero’s advice the Coinshots should begin killing sooner rather than later, but at least wait until the next cycle due to the holidays. Followed up by RP. Kasimir: Complains about having already received two role claims. Votes for Wyrm with little explanation, seemingly because he proposed the lynch discussion to begin with. Red flag number one. IrulelikeSTINK: Asks what is with all the blue text. Says he will only send players who post PMs. Kasimir: Answers Stink’s question about blue text. Lightsworn Panda: Also answers Stink’s question about blue text. Gets nostalgic. Mark IV: RP. Nothing game related to salvage. Metacognition: Clarifies use of black text versus use of blue text. Encourages more RP and questions. Wyrmhero: Fixes colors used in previous posts to match Meta’s decrees. Teases Kas for voting for him under the name Chief rather than his real name. Openly wonders why he has not received any role claims yet and asks if he is untrustworthy. RippleGylf: RP. Nothing game related to salvage. Kasimir: RP. Unsure if pure fiction or game relevant. IrulelikeSTINK: Requests elevator music. OrlokTsubodai: Apologizes for not RPing due to a self perceived lack of skill. Goes along with Wyrm’s proposition of a lynch discussion and pokes Adavantos for being quiet. IrulelikeStink: Suggests Adavantos may be busy celebrating the holidays. Adavantos: Provides reason for inactivity and claims he will post something of worth when he is “settled in.” Seonid: Notes silence. References the last iteration of the game where everyone was talking about a gambit made by Eol by this stage. Suggests Coinshits make sure that their kills are useful to the village while Lurchers self protect and Smokers avoid using their abilities for a few cycles to help ensure Seekers get more positive readings. IrulelikeSTINK: Asks what there’s to discuss. Seonid: Answers nothing if people continue to not talk. IrulelikeStink: Adds in that Coinshots should refrain from killing anyone the first night. Kasimir: Suggests that we use night votes as a way to direct the Coinshots in order to help the game progress twice as fast, if they will it. Also argues that Smokers should not refrain from using their abilities as Seonid suggested in case the eliminators have a Seeker to prevent them from finding important village roles. Red flag number 2 for me. Seonid: Acknowledges Kas’ points but still believes innocent Smokers holding off on using their copperclouds is best. IrulelikeSTINK: Agrees with Seonid’s proposition about Smokers refraining from smoking for the first few cycles as it would give us more information to work with. Mashadar Mistborn: RP. Nothing game related to salvage. Kasimir: Argues that creating large gaps in votes to prevent emotional allomancy from interfering has drawbacks to it compared to smoking. Reponds to Stink citing recent levels of activity and that while not necessarily fair, losing Regulars and Smokers rather than Lurchers or Seekers is more important to the village. Pokes at Stink’s idea that it bears resemblance to a follow the cop strategy. IrulelikeSTINK: Explains that by the time follow the cop would become a thing we would have enough information to find suspicions on our own, and that while he doesn’t advocate a follow the cop strategy it sometimes is inevitable and he wouldn’t fight against it. Also thinks we need to stop focusing on inactives due to the limited amount of insight it provides for everyone. Kasimir: Points out he suggested making the Coinshot a secondary lynch not using them to clean up inactives. Once again states that he’d rather not lose a critical role than a good analyzer. Asks if Stink is deliberately or unintentionally misinterpreting his arguments. IrulelikeSTINK: Clarifies that his comment regarding inactives was not meant to be directed at him but anyone who supports the Contribution Crusade. Seonid: Acknowledges points presented about inactives. Continues to advocate creating large vote gaps as it allows for analysis. Brings up the fact that the village has emotional allomancers as well to counteract the Spiked. Expects the Smokers to make a decision based on all the facts presented and moves on. Mailliw: Informs everyone he is around but busy (in black text). Araris Valerian: RP. Nothing game related to salvage (except that the context of the post can be interpreted that he only did it to show activity before being confronted for it). Weiry Writer: Blue text explanation about being out of state until monday so that people should not expect him to be around until then. RP. Nothing game related to salvage. Elkanah: RP. Nothing game related to salvage. Haelbarde: Asks Mashadar if his character can make an aluminum plated pen. IrulelikeSTINK: Suggests aluminum ink. RippleGylf: Points out flaw with aluminum ink. Hellscythe: Asks if there is only one Tin Eye and if deaths will be differentiated in the write up. Mashadar Mistborn: Asks Hael if he has a few thousand boxings for his request. Mailliw: Expresses that it’s a waste of time to try and predict Meta’s role distribution and that the kills are indeed written differently. luckat: Rather lengthy RP post with advise for all roles. Worth more than one read. Haelbarde: RP. Nothing game related to salvage. Mashadar Mistborn: RP. Likes luckat’s advice. Also, a vote. Herowannabe. Your first post to me just rubs off as incredibly contrived. Right now that's the best lead I've got minus Wyrm whose a Tineye and Kasimir who has pretty much died early every game he's been in.
  8. Amanuensis
    As requested. Currently analyzing the past two days. Will post once my thoughts are composed. Chronological Order With Strikes (1) Lopen: Hael (1), Venture (1), (0) Venture: Mail (1), (1) Panda: Stink (1), (1) Kas: Hero (1), (2) Wyrm: Hell (1), Elby (1), Mark (1), (1) Hell: Araris (1), (1) Phatt: Mail (2), (1) Hael: Orlok (1), (0) Araris: Kas (1), (1) Sart: Kas (1), (0) Ada: Hael (2), (1) Bort: Hael (3), Descending Order Without Strikes (2) Wyrm: Hell (1), Elby (1) (1) Lopen: Venture (1), (1) Panda: Stink (1), (1) Kas: Hero (1), (1) Hell: Araris (1), (1) Phatt: Mail (2), (1) Hael: Orlok (1), (1) Sart: Kas (1), (1) Bort: Hael (3), Please let me know if there are any errors.
  9. Amanuensis
    Kipper and Creccio were both incnocent. Since I'm such a nice guy too, I'll throw in the bonus that Mail is no longer transformed as of this cycle was actually a Diagrammist and an Assassin
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    Tony Shark Will need one more vote for him to tie And for saving me I'll give you guys a two for one deal
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    Well, I suppose I should have clarified that I was specifically taking the role of an extra Scholar to make up for the two that had already been lost. Which means if I were aware someone was transformed I would give that information out first. That being said, I guess this means nice guy Ada's life is about to come to an end. Silly me and my conscious. I would have been happier if I lasted a few more cycles so that you guys could have gotten some more useful information from me. Though I suppose with Lopen having claimed now I'm less useful. Sad that I outed myself for no good reason and am repaid with being lynched. Well be amused to see peoples reactions, though
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    Sorry for my absence. Was out the last two nights with my housemates discussing social justice. There were... refreshments. For what it's worth I was considerably suspicious of Kas and Wyrm before all these shenanigans developed. More so the former rather than the latter, but at this current point in time I'm not a fan of either as a lynch candidate. Kas because of his curse and Wyrm because PMs are a vital tool for gathering information and coordinating as a village behind the backs of the eliminators. I guess that after them, Araris and Orlok stand out the most to me, but until I sit down and take a crack at true analysis to determine why (if it is anything other than gut) I can't really provide an explanation. Also in response to Kas' post just now I am not a fan of Smokers smoking this early in the game, and really think that you guys need to stop with that. I had reasoned that keeping copperclouds off was the best course of action myself and was very happy to hear that someone else had the same idea and expressed it. Seems the village Smokers didn't agree with Luckat, which I'm not fond of, but oh well.
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    Sorry for the delay but Mail is innocent (totally wasn't waiting for confirmation from my teammate that he didn't transform his corpse)
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    No celebration here, just woke up from a 14 hour coma. Now I have to get ready for work but I will post something of worth when I settle in.
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    I had never read that WoB, but this was the same point I was going to bring up. With a weapon like Nightblood he never really had a reason to practice swordplay. It's been awhile since I read Warbreaker but if I recall correctly he seldom relied on Nightblood and instead used his talents with Awakening to subdue his enemies. Plus with him coming to Roshar we have no real idea yet how his abilities would interact with the world, and given the stigma against Radiants it's likely he would have avoided using it anyway in order to prevent raising any unwanted questions, so ultimately it makes perfect sense that he had to rely on a more traditional way of fighting. Though that makes me wonder what his eye color is; can't seem to remember specifically, but I want to say brown? Maybe that was a part of the reason he became an Ardent, since it's extremely taboo for darkeyes to wield a sword otherwise, and he thought it better to use a familiar instrument of war rather than learn a new one (the spear). Lastly, the reason why he might be more lax about his pursuit of Nightblood is because there have been no signs of him being used anywhere. What I mean is that when someone is killed by Nightblood the wounds are very obvious and compared to deaths in the Stormlight Archive definitely unheard of. News would likely reach his ears if evidence of his use were ever discovered, especially with him being in the Ardentia as that is - as a Darkeyes - the easiest profession to get into that would put him in a position among people with influence that would more likely hear these things. Without a lead, wandering across Roshar would probably be a more counter productive alternative to becoming an Ardent. That's my two cents.
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    Not entirely sure if this is the appropriate place to post this, however barring many other alternatives I'll go ahead and do it anyway. Another forum member and I are currently discussing getting involved here and thus are in the process of developing a pair of Epics. That being said, we need a little guidance on what's open for us to jump into and another thing that'd be super useful is the current date in the RPs so I can flesh out specifics for my backstory. Hope to hear from someone soon.
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    Lopen :[ Just want to remind everyone to discuss whose alignment they want me to reveal at the beginning of the next cycle. I will keep a tally of the purple votes and post the results immediately after next cycle's write up.
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    Now that's what I'm talking about. Lopen is a vote I can get behind.
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    Emphasis mine. To clarify, I will only reveal the alignment of dead players. Not one that's currently living.
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    Didn't see the edit until now. Short answer is no. I'm going to kill who I want. That isn't a part of a deal. The deal is I kill whatever inactive I wish in exchange for you guys deciding whose alignment you want to be told.
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    Interesting, isn't it? This game seemed to be stalling, so I figured that by proposing this it might make things a bit more fun for everyone. Though I said in the spirit of the holidays, not Christmas (I'm PC bro, I'll throw down!). That being said, I'll leave the rest of this discussion to everyone else. Emphasis mine. Nice-Guy-Ada transcends all alignments.
  22. Amanuensis
    No, the Bondsmith is/was not on our team. Don't mention it. No matter what side I'm on I love to help discussion along and for a similar reason I didn't want to win LG15a the way we did I just don't feel comfortable letting things go on so far stacked in our favor.
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    Hey everyone. In spirit of the holidays I'm going to do you guys a favor by announcing publicly that I am the Diagrammist Cook. I'm sure some of you are wondering why I would admit that, so before anyone asks allow me to explain. Basically, after PK announced that Sart was a Scholar, a few of us got to talking and realized how incredibly unfair it is that two (Kipper and him) have died already and only one has actually claimed, putting you guys at a severe information disadvantage. Instead of pursuing an easy win we started forming ideas that could help the game progress better without costing us the chance to win entirely, and after much deliberation this is what we've decided. So yeah, I'm evil, and honestly I'm sorry. About an hour and a half before the game began I was actually talking to STINK in the LG15 Dead Doc about how badly I wanted this to start, and he made a comment about me being eager to kill people and I explained to him that it was the part that I regretted most about SE and made a joke about being a Diagrammist Cook. Needless to say I nearly choked to death on seeds when I received the PM not too long after. Anyway, I suggest that players go back and analyze all of my posts (or PMs if you have them). Knowing my alignment, there should be enough hints for you to determine some others. I'm a bit sad that this might mean the end of my Win/Survival Streak as an eliminator, but ultimately I think that the fun of this game should not be spent to preserve my record thus far. To my fellow Diagrammists who were not present to the discussion, I'm sorry if you disagree with me taking this action, however so long as I'm the only one who comes out like this then I don't think the damage will be too colossal. I also suggest that the fourth Scholar, whoever you are (if you're even still alive) come out into the open. I can guarantee you protection due to me being in contact with a Son of Honor Surgeon, if it makes you feel any better about it. But if you decide not to and if the village keeps me alive, I promise to honestly reveal if a single dead player, as decided upon by the village, is innocent or evil once every cycle. That being said, you guys can vote for which player's alignment I reveal through a vote like this: Orlok. Keep in mind however that if you continue to keep me alive I will also continue to use my ability to kill inactive innocents. So really it's up to all of you. Keep me alive at the cost of one life per cycle to get some extra info or kill me now and depend on PK. I leave you all to discuss this, as well as possible suspects based off my posts so far. Also, for players unfamiliar how to get all of a single player's posts up on one page, here's some instructions: Go to my profile. Click "Find content" above the green reputation block on the right. Click "Only posts" using the menu list on the left. Read away. Happy hunting, mates.
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    I will go ahead and place a vote on Deathclutch partly due to his inactivity but mostly because on C2 when it was announced that superiors in your chain of command could open a PM up with a single player beneath them, he decided to start one with me despite being a Commander and having many choices. His reasoning was that he believed I was the most trustworthy and beneficial player for him to contact, which directly contradicts his vote on me C1 and the sudden declaration C3 that I'm a Diagrammist. I had mistrusted him from the start due to his shaky reasoning (it seemed like he was trying a bit too hard to coax information out of me by stroking my ego, and upon realizing I wouldn't bite he stopped responding to my PMs and suddenly called me out in thread). For that reason I suspect he was convinced by his doc mates to open a line of communication with me, hoping I mind end up a hub like LG15 and giving them information similar to how I ended up doing just that with Burnt by giving the Mistborn and Elantrian the opportunity to contact her. Currently I plan to refrain from poisoning this turn due to the severe number of deaths we've had already, but I would not be opposed to using my ability on Feligon for being a GB and an inactive, if others agree. Assuming I survive the cycle, I will be taking kill requests in the form of voting every cycle from now on, as it's both a good way to generate discussion and see what people want. If you want to vote for me to kill someone just use the same color as I did for Feligon above.
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    In light of Zas' reveal, I've decided to go along and do the same. I am a Son of Honor Cook, the very same who was in contact with Stink on C2 and asked him to reveal my theory about Hellscythe. Unfortunately I still do not know his role / alignment and would appreciate it if he were scanned, as I still believe there is a lot of information that can be had from that. Unfortunately right now my time is short but I will be on again shortly after the turnover so in the meantime I will leave you with my list of orders so far. C1 Hellscythe, C2 Hellscythe, C3 Starry, C4 Shallan. I have not decided who I will poison today let alone if I will at all. So far I have been poisoning players I find suspicious or inactive players who have connections to players I am suspicious of (and just happen to be Ghostbloods...). I can explain this more later if anyone wants clarification. That being said, I am still of the opinion that the Diagrammist Cook is the one who attacked Mail C1 and myself C2, which is also the reason they likely won't reveal themselves as otherwise it would probably lead to their death.
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