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  1. Kasimir
    "Mistress Odysa," said Kaddar, "You are entirely welcome to test the veracity of my claim. Or at least, I would say that if I wasn't wary of instigating a second Meller incident. The one has been quite excessive, wouldn't you say? You are welcome, therefore, to make what you will of it." He winked and strode off. Newan. Can't deny that I'd like to hear more--especially considering you're sort of behaving as you did during LG7 and you were our House skaa then. You were more helpful during the first part of QF4, and it's not as if you'll be in danger of being converted, this time around. I know a second vote may seem excessive--I'll definitely switch it out later, but I'm trying to get those Supreme Lynchmaster senses tingling, for the moment, as I work on something else.
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    Twei had posted something here but it seems to have been eaten, possibly by the server transfer? Is that even possible? :S Is there anything we can do about this? :S
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    Wilson, Jasnah posted, somewhere in the last two pages of the previous cycle. I was the one to remind King of it, in fact.
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    "Well," Kaddar remarked, offhandedly. "That went well. That is to say, that went exceedingly badly." Nirn pecked at his ear, and he sighed. "I've written, for one, a terribly emotional letter to Gavilar, for which neither of us will forgive me. And of course, the matter of Meller..." He fell silent, for a few, long moments. "I told Gavilar I was willing to die to see his dream of Alethkar come to fruition. I walked into the storm shelter expecting never to depart a living man. I must say, this is...unexpected." Hulin chirped, inquiringly. Kaddar stretched, flexing tight muscles. Then he bent down and picked up his spear. "'Name that which afflicts all; from the lowliest darkeyes to the most noble of kings. Turns virtue to vice, cripples strength, blinds the clear-sighted. Ruins kingdoms, ruins towns; all around me I see it. Suspicion might be an answer. More appropriate, of course, is folly. All around me, I see nothing but fools.' I penned that for my death, thinking it was to come. Fools, both of us; the enemy was neither of us, and the task falls to me to be completed." He swung the spear in the practised movements of a fighter, testing. "It may come to my death," Kaddar mused, aloud, "But I fear Gavilar will not be so understanding. That new Shardbearer--Tal--he's better off saving his Blade for someone else." He was quiet, for a time. And so were the chickens. "The spearman, if it comes to that. Torwel. He has nothing to lose should he land the first blow. Have him cast the first stone. This will ensure he is nothing more than he claims to be." Eventually: "I never told you how I lost that eye, did I? I never told Gavilar, either. There is a story of a god who tore out an eye for a taste of wisdom. And then he realised he should not have given up his eye. The Nightwatcher. I spoke with her, you know. I was younger then, a different fool." He thrust savagely with his spear. "The price was one of my eyes. Half the light of the world." He whispered, "I am so sorry."
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    I'm sure it will sound odd, because I did want to end with my last note, but if it's not clearly-phrased there, any attempt to shift a vote away from me to Odysa or anyone else will result in my putting my vote on the 2-person pile for Meller at the moment. Sadly, I am very much into neutralisation, and I will gladly go to my death by lynch the next cycle (for the love of Gavilar, please do not Shardblade me, Luckat!) if I should turn out to be mistaken in this. Edit: colour.
  6. Kasimir
    One last note, my friend: You must know that I lied. I am in possession of the spanreed that was in the possession of the dead Spy, Jain. I have been attempting to ferret out the identity of the man's collaborator, but unfortunately, my efforts have not borne fruit. On the day I requested the Blackthorn to allow me leave from battle, I snuck into Jain's tent and stole his spanreed. My ability to write is, alas, one of the many blasphemies I indulge in. But no matter on my failings, old friend. The more pertinent issue is that I advise you not to look over your shoulder for one of the Spies' allies. It was always me. You know my suspicions. I have named them; three of them. Today, I head out to confront the one known as Meller. I know he has raised accusations against me. I strongly suspect him, and have set into motion events that I hope, will result in his death, or mine. I am, you see, stubborn to a fault, as you must surely remember. If he chooses to retract, I will ensure his death, today. There is only so much a man can do in this world, it seems. To refuse to confront evil is to permit it to survive. In the other princes, I see the death of the Alethkar you spoke of; that we dared to dream of. It is my greatest, most unspeakable honour to die in the pursuit of your dream. Live well, Gavilar. Reign well. Reign in wisdom and watchfulness. Long live the King! Your loyal Wit, Kaddar.
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    When you're discussing Skyrim with a friend and accidentally say, "I played an Alethi swordsman" when you meant Altmer... >>
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    Kaddar. As I am (hopefully) about to be lynched, I should note that neutering Meta, Macen, or Odysa is fine with me. Why those three? Perhaps Macen takes some explaining. I was adamant in hinting that the Lighteyes might have used their ability to skip the Battle and lied about it. I certainly did and I was missing from the write-up. My guilt or innocence is shortly about to be revealed. When that is the case, I'd urge a role-block and a lynch of Meta, and at least a closer examination of Macen. I don't know what to think about Odysa. Obviously, my innocence cannot prove that I am correct in my suspicions. But it can indicate that I am not intending to mislead with my suspicions. To once more sum it up: Meta. My point is not about claiming to be two exclusive roles: my point is that he seems to be the only one fully certain and invested in being certain. The only good answer I can see for Meta's new prescience isn't that he ingested melange, but that he's a Spy. Macen. I feel that the write-up gives prima facie reason to suspect he's not entirely truthful, and to cap it up, Macen keeps hopping on and echoing what other people said. Too eager to not venture actual suspicion, it almost seems. It's happened here, and it's happened earlier when Wilson made comments about how what I said was worded. Odysa--Wilson's written a whole research paper on the behaviour and the habits of the common Odysus wintercloudisis. Enough said. So: recall that I mentioned I did skip a Battle and didn't appear in the write-up, consequently. Guess which other Lighteyes doesn't appear in the write-up? Auf Wiedersehen, and good luck. Kaddar, King's Wit.
  9. Kasimir
    Huh. That's puzzling, because it violates what King says here. For reference: King, can we take this as an indication that only Sabotage actions and the lynch can happen during a Highstorm?
  10. Kasimir
    I was under the impression we could edit to add content, but otherwise, we should not change the content of a particular post, including grammar. So you could add an extra line of text, clearly marked as an addition, but you can't delete text otherwise. I realised that I should at least acknowledge Wilson's post, so I just added an acknowledgement to Wilson's post, rather than to simply add a second post a few moments later saying, "Yeah Wilson, I got you, fair point." If you'd prefer me (and yes, I get that this clarification is for the benefit of everyone else) to add a double post, then tell me so right now and I'll take that as the rule for what to do about posts in future. - What are you missing? Very simply, as I've said before, and I'll say very clearly now: I think there is something strange when Aonar and Ren consider something a possibility and it doesn't even occur to one of the best players in the game. I think it is clearly the case when it has been acknowledged that my playing style would also be extremely compatible with that of my having drawn the Wit. I think the only explanation for this is that you are a Spy, Meta, trying to cost the village a role they'll need. And you're welcome to take me up on it and to see how well it works out for you. Have I indeed been incredibly unhelpful? I've been trying to highlight assumptions and to point out things people have ignored. I note that you credit Tal with pointing out we have to do something about the Lighteyes lynch, clearly ignoring that I was the first to mention that and to raise suggestions about that. Then, I tried to suggest how we could come to an estimation of the number of Spy teams, which you dismissed as my 'mentioning the obvious' and branded as valueless. I tried to take up Wyrm's tactic and at least prod some activity from players who were basically not saying anything at all. I have been clarifying rules to make sure we don't confuse ourselves by having false impressions of what is possible, as Jost did. I have been urging level-headedness with regard to what the spies know. Indeed, I have been superbly unhelpful. Indeed, I have been far more unhelpful than players such as Odysa, Mek, and Alv and Jasnah. Indeed, I have been far more unhelpful than Wilson, and so unhelpful that it is clear I must be a spy. No. I submit that you're just really the one who's too blinded by suspicion and too eager to paint me as 'unhelpful' that you're ignoring what I am actually doing, apart from my refusing to engage claims of my being a Spy. If we look past your assertions and your eagerness to paint what I'm doing in a bad light and to actually look at what I'm doing, it's clear it's not as dire as you seem to want to suggest it is. In addition to minor things pointed out by Macen, despite your responses to them, this does in fact raise my hackles and my suspicion. So come on, then. Try me. Let's see how good that works for you. I encourage everyone to vote for me and for someone to roleblock Odysa for one more night. Neutering Meta's role will at least be a cost to the Spies, and I strongly encourage everyone to kill Meta soon after I'm dead. At the very least, I'll settle for neutering you and making sure that Tal won't be caught in the cross-fire. Kaddar. Edit for colour.
  11. Kasimir
    Current problem is that I'm listening to The Last Night of the Kings and suddenly, all I want to write about is a December Revolution set near a feastday, rather than anything particularly celebratory Guess I should just re-read de Castell's Traitor's Blade to help me there...
  12. Kasimir
    Mek, thanks for some response. I'm going to put my vote on Meta now. The funny thing is, Ren told me in the spec doc of QF4 that he'd suspected me in MR3 because of a really obvious blind-spot: I was consistently refusing to call Wyrm on his behaviour. Funny thing is, I know Meta's a really subtle player. For one, he kept trying to get the Eliminators in LG8 to target Kal Dell in order to get them to waste a kill. For another, at the same time, he was trying to play a House War and instigate killings which his team would presumably come out of. So I can see possibilities for this to be otherwise, but it strikes me as strange that Meta keeps narrowing down on me. (I don't know what to say about Wilson, as she's certainly not considered it either.) I note that players easily of the same caliber, such as Aonar and Ren have noted that I could be anything: a Spy, not a Spy, or that my behaviour could just as easily indicate that I'm the Wit. And yet despite an earlier hasty claim that I was the Wit, the possibility seems to have disappeared from Meta's public thoughts altogether. Funny thing is, it occurs to me that Meta's too good a player for it not to have occurred to him. And I'm pretty sure that despite my claims to be a Spy, I haven't done anything to rule out that possibility. So, why is he so insistent on my being suspicious? One possibility is that he hopes that if I were the Wit, this would push me towards admitting that I am the Wit. What good does that do though? I don't know. What I find more likely is that by consistently mentioning his suspicions but by being reluctant to actually do anything about me--Meta's hoping to eventually lure someone else into voting for me, and hopefully taking out a valuable role for us, on the off-chance that I am the Wit, given how I've been behaving in this game so far. Of course, my being a Spy would preclude my being the Wit. But I just find it exceedingly interesting that some of our better players don't find that to be a relevant possibility, even though some of the others do. And the main reasons I can think of for that oversight/blindness seem to be ones that are more unsavoury. Of course, since I've admitted to being a Spy, you have really no reason to take my word for it. But it is only if you take my word for it that my being a Spy would be conclusive. What a paradox Edit: Thanks, Wilson, I stand corrected on the point of Meta's possible lie, then.
  13. Kasimir
    ...You know you're a Sanderson fan when you immediately regret having first gone to Twitter instead of 17S to announce that >>
  14. Kasimir
    If we work from the assumption that all Spy Teams got in their kills (Macen has pointed out where that might not be warranted) : 1. 2 Officer role-blocks [Assumes that Meta is truthful: I consider the Odysa-Twei-Wilson consistency to be indicative that particular assumption is less flaky than the Meta one.] 2. x number of Scouts went out of camp. [No idea how many Scouts there are, frankly. I'd guess 1-3, and that's just a blind shot in the dark.] 3. 2 Aladar spies are not valid targets. [Assumes that there is a team of Aladar spies. Spies may belong to a different Highprince and Aladar may be an invalid team.] 4. Any number of Lighteyes skipped the battle. [Assumes that the Lighteyes are being truthful in saying they did not skip--would they admit to doing so, even if they did? To admit they've used their free ticket out of combat is to basically admit that they're now killable. If a Lighteyes felt they had reason to use their battle skip, I doubt they'd feel they have reason to admit it. Especially if there are still Lighteyed Spies.] These are pretty much the only ways to end up with the results we now have. To further explain 1.: Very simply, we have two claims of an Officer role-block. First, Wilson claimed to have role-blocked Twei, and Twei has supported that claim. Unless Wilson and Twei are both Spies on the same team, it's pretty hard to see how collusion could create that result. Not to mention they would be drawing an immediate link between the two of them should one be discovered to be a Spy. Ditto for the claim on Odysa, which actually carries heavy evidential weight to me because Wilson isn't a Messenger (necessarily so) and couldn't have colluded. So I think we have some reason to think that Twei was genuinely role-blocked by Wilson. So, moving on. The weaker claim, as I see it, by which I mean less robust, is the claim by Meta to have been role-blocked. Now, it looks like he's been genuinely role-blocked, because he mentioned an interestingly specific detail--being sent to clean the latrines. And while Twei's claim is temporally after Meta's, it seems to me we have some independent reason to think that Wilson was telling the truth. As a result, it seems that Meta's claim about being role-blocked--especially since it supplies a relevant detail echoed by Twei--appears to be genuine. So the question is more of how accurate the two officers were in their role-blocking. Joining in the appeal for our other officer to shed some light on this. 2. Can't say more about this: if an Eliminator was a Scout, then they did not make a kill, so their partner must have. Furthermore, we know that three or possibly four people can't be Scouts and can't have been protected as their votes stood. It seems at least that Reihmer and Alinel weren't Scouts--but the latter may especially fit the target profile of Team Vamah. 3. I feel like I need to point this out anyway. Don't forget that the Spies don't know if the person they hit was a Scout, or just someone from Team Aladar. Contacting them is a risk in that regard. So maybe we've been a bit too pessimistic here. But more importantly, it seems to me that it's a bit of an assumption that a Team Aladar actually exists. I wouldn't put it past King to confuse us with one or two additional Highprinces, just to make it harder for us to guess the number of teams actually in the game. All the same, I do feel as though it is likely that a Team Aladar exists; we just can't ignore the real possibility that they don't. 4. Really? We don't have reason to distrust what the Lighteyes say but I don't think that translates into reason to trust what the Lighteyes say. As Luckat noted, it seems as though there are (on the surface of it) compelling reasons to suppose they might've asked out of the battle. I grant there are good reasons not to have used that ability as well. But consider: even further--why should we presume that the Lighteyes are truthful in this regard when they surely have every incentive to obfuscate things so it is unclear if they're actually vulnerable to a kill?
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    Fair warning: this is highly speculative, as I don't have enough information, and I'm trying to piece possibilities together from what we know. If you hate speculation, don't read on. Here, Jain brings up the fact that Ash died and that people like Meta aren't dead as explananda and says: Taking the thread of a discussion in a slightly different direction, as Meta isn't yet online to respond, I've gone over what Jain said again, because I admit that it seems the pattern of the Spies remains the same: Meta was not targeted. We know there was no Surgeon/Guardsman action. That's one. Second, we know that Meta is either not a Scout, or (inclusive-or), he did not use his ability to leave camp. Which means that unless Wilson and the other Officer (assuming the truth is being told here), were ridiculously lucky in their ah, introducing people to the latrines, it seems that we have some reason to think that the Spies are obviously continuing to play the strategies previously discussed. (There's more that could be said here, but that requires a deeper analysis than I can supply at this hour.) What I wanted to draw attention to is the fact that Eliminator analysis, for obvious reasons, usually attempts to misdirect. Jain put a lot of emphasis on Option 3, which is understandable: he possibly wanted to point us at typical trolling players (Wilson and Aonar?) and I'm more inclined to think that he wanted to seem as though he was doing some analysis without telling us anything informative about what the teams were doing. I suspect it might have been his own team's idea: he might not have been so reticent if speculating about the strategies of other spies. (In which case, we might wonder if the kill directed at Aladar's spies from Jain's team--two assumptions; that the kill hit Aladar's spies and that there are only two Eliminator teams, as I choose not to presume the existence of more teams unless there is the suggestion--indicates to us that at least one of Aladar's spies fits the profile of kills that Jain's team seemed to be going after.) That he suggested a wildcard/new option or a grudge option in the first place though, makes me wonder if it might help for us to look in the other direction when trying to locate the surviving member of Jain's team. Edit: Actually, forget it. Just ignore everything please :/ I keep forgetting that assessing motivations is not my strong suit and I'm better off sticking to what I'm better at. So. Data.
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    Odysa, this isn't the first time you've just (helpfully) posted nothing more than an exclamation mark. Care to explain?
  17. Kasimir
    When your exam week is officially over and your first reaction is to get on Twitter and go: I AM FREE (And to favourite every single tweet which gets it.)
  18. Kasimir
    Wilson: No, I was actually addressing that question to Joe, because I would be more suspicious if you had that information during a Battle and didn't share it until way later. Luckat: I placed my secret vote on Araris. I'd be wary about putting too much stock on roles that have to be Spies (even though I do suspect a Messenger would be highly useful to at least one Spy Team.) I'm sure we all remember the joy of the Gunners...
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    It's always been your title. You just need to reclaim it. Anyway: Torwel is Twei, yes. Racine, if you prefer, Wandrin Well, I think it's one piece of information, but we can't tunnel in and focus on this thing with Wilson and Twei. I agree we need to hear from Twei, but we can't do anything about that for now, and one other thing this whole morass serves is to just divert our attention too. Given that Jost was the one to call down the balefire and confirm Jain's lynch, I'm going to take my vote off him (I mostly wanted to hear his logic anyway), and I'm going to put a vote on Mek because I'd like something more solid than RP that isn't directed towards anything going on. I guess if King isn't going to lead the Wyrm Inquisition, then I'll see what I can do.
  20. Kasimir
    Could this be it? Could this be a sign of the Elusive Supreme Lynchmaster returning?! The more I think of it, the more I'm 50-50 about Joe and Wilson's logic. I think people have made good points about Wilson's inconsistencies: for instance--a general tendency to flag people as suspicious for things she's doing: flagging my (earlier) acknowledgement of my innocence when she'd basically kept declaring she was good, as well as Meta noting that the charge of Eliminator-strategising could easily go both ways. At the same time, though, I don't think those inconsistencies are conclusive and they certainly have good replies possible--although a player like Wilson...I wouldn't trust myself to be able to determine if it is or isn't telling. I'm iffy about the logic of "Well, Wilson's a good player so she wouldn't reveal if she had an important role." My impression was that if you role-blocked someone and there was no kill--even with all the attendent uncertainties in this game, such as whether or not the Lighteyes have been lying about not skipping the battle, or whether the kills hit a Scout, or Aladar's men, or...--well, even with all those uncertainties, it seems to me to be something pretty useful to know. Why don't you think so?
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    Sourced from here. Nope, I'm pretty sure King's rules don't work that way.
  22. Kasimir
    Kaddar slung his spear over his shoulder, wedged himself better into the fork of the tree branches and looked down on the battlefield below. The walk to higher ground had been worth it, he thought. Nirn and Hulin were somewhere in the vicinity. The screams of the wounded and dying were thick in the air. Eventually, teams were going to have to retrieve those who could be saved. And then, perhaps, the grisly work of killing those from Aladar's army would have to begin. "You know," he said to Hulin, "That messenger told me he'd seen nobody on his runs through the camp." Silence. "Well," said Kaddar, "Of course, he must be far more insightful than I am. All I can see is Jost's face, and believe me, that's not a sight you really want to wake up to. It takes some getting used to. Not that the visages of my fellow Brightlords and Brightladies are any better, of course. To see an abstract person is more than I can manage. And of course, that's nonsense. Why, if Nobody could be seen, then he'd be Somebody or Anybody." More silence. "I suppose it's not very funny," Kaddar admitted. "There was a story, though. Shall I tell it to you? Yes. I think I shall. There was a messenger, bringing word from his generals to a king. The king asked his secretary, 'Who did you see on the road?' 'Nobody,' replied the Brightlady, for the road was empty. Eventually, however, the messenger came into sight. 'Who did you pass on the road?' the king asked, after the messenger had delivered the generals' words. 'Nobody,' replied the messenger; the road had been empty. 'Of course,' said the king, 'After all, the Brightlady has seen him too. Clearly, nobody walks slower than you.'" A cry, echoing amongst the trees. "Quite right," Kaddar said. "The story goes on at some length of course--the messenger is offended, the king doesn't actually chop his head off, and the messenger says, 'well, nobody is faster than me, your majesty' and all of that. The king replies, 'Well, he can't have done that or he'd have been here first.'" The leaves rustled; they'd retreated ever since he'd made the climb up the tree. "I suppose the lesson is: a king may be a fool. Or is it that a fool may be a king?" He'd have to return to camp, eventually. Someone would notice he was missing. Still, he had some time left. Bracing himself against the branches on either side, Kaddar ignored his discomfort and watched. - Sorry, Odysa, you're not the first to have pulled off that stunt I didn't skip battle either, so assuming the other Lighteyes and myself are truthful, that leaves whether Jost chose to do so. Looks more and more likely that the situation is a result of Scouts and Officers. Wilson, I'm pretty sure that pretty much suggests your role, as-is. Tentatively, I would (defeasibly) regard as suspicious any Messenger who chooses not to contact Luckat at the end of this cycle, seeing as we would then at least have one node of a communication network that can be trusted (even if we are uncertain of the Messengers themselves--I don't want to pull another Gunner incident, but I must admit that I believe the Spies have at least one Messenger. And Jost, I can buy the first part of what you said but the last leaves something to be desired. Please explain your logic.
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    ...I'm neutral about Renarin for now: I just don't see enough of him yet to make a judgement of like/dislike, so I'm suspending judgement for the time being. I do find myself fascinated to know more about how Renarin was broken (as people have already pointed out)--in particular, I find the contrastive question very interesting--so: why Renarin but not Adolin? (My current assumption is that at least up to right before WoR, Adolin didn't count as broken. Don't want to get into arguments about whether he broke later/will break.) It seems to suggest there's a story to be told about how Renarin grew up and how Adolin grew up.
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    I knew I was forgetting something. This is why the battle kills can only give us a tentative figure--it presumes that no Lighteyes decided to skip the battle. It's something to note; we can bicker about the likeliness of that another time. And a state of the votes tally: Jain (1): Alinel Wilson (1): Marand Odysa (1): Wilson Karlin (1): Reihmer Marand (1): Meller Ace (1): Kas Maili's definitely not a viable vote sink unless we want to kill him. Edit: Areh, fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out, luckat!
  25. Kasimir
    OOG: I'm just shorter on mobile because typing like this is annoying. Also, heavily sleep-deprived and being on Day One of a two-day exam marathon means I'm not exactly patient enough to eke out a better defense. I'll do so when home, apologies. Game-wise, I don't consider it a deflection. You raised many concerns about me, including the fact I don't make plans. This is where it seems to be about playstyle because I have never played as a planner, throughout this game. And in this particular case, I'm starved for ideas anyway. All save one. I agree I've never answered the charges of deflecting insistence that I am a spy with sarcasm. Indeed, it seems I am a highly sarcastic Spy Edit: Back home and I don't want to doublepost, so here goes. First things first, apologies if anyone got the wrong impression. Tired!Kas means impatient!Kas and mobile typing is annoying--I notice Jain agrees--so now that I'm on my keyboard, I'll try to be a bit more thorough. Let me make this clear: I'm not trying to aggregate every single charge levelled against me--and some of them are rather fair--to charges of 'no-one likes my playstyle!' As I can see, the charges directed at me are several: 1. "Well, what you've been posting reads awfully like messages to fellow Eliminators." Indeed, I have been unmasked! The shame! The horror! I'm sending cunning messages telling my fellow Spies how to play (and really, y'all should contact me, tsk.) Very simply, I disagree with the basic premise that Wilson and Macen seem to be endorsing. I do agree that some things shouldn't be talked about because we don't want to help my fellow Eliminators too much. For instance: talking about who the Surgeons should protect. At the same time, I honestly think that as much as the idea can be flawed in implementation--bringing up things, even if it's obvious, helps the Village. I don't mean to say that being Captain Obvious and nothing more is helpful, but I do find it constructive to throw possibilities out there, to let people think about it, and really, to keep ideas flowing. I think that keeping silent and keeping it to myself isn't really a smart thing to do. It's something I've tended to do in past games (see Meta's QF) and I've ended up paying for it. So perhaps I'm overcompensating, but at this point, I do believe that talking more is better, and I've decided that responding to Jain and trying to make sense of Ash's death (even though it is, at this point, a singular data-point) is well worth it. Why do you disagree, Wilson and Macen? 2. "Well, you've been ambiguously helpful. You're just throwing out observations but not solid plans." These are two separate charges, but I've put them together for the sake of convenience. On the first part: well, I admit that I don't tend to aggressively vote--the only time I've done that has been in QFs, and I admit that I do think that in an MR, we have a bit of leeway. Furthermore, I haven't actually been following discussions in detail--I'd need to really look over things to be able to really push any suspicions I might have. And in some cases, such as those of Wilson, Meta, and Aonar etcetera--I'm suspicious just because. (...Because I can't really tell, but I know better than to go into immediate trust.) So on those grounds, yes, I've not been helpful and I could do better. Somewhat. Temper that with the realisation that I have seldom done so in the past. I am, at least, consistent. On the second part: again, consistency. This is where I think it does come down to my playstyle. As I have said above, I am not much of a planner. I do suggest plans on occasion, when they occur to me. None have here. I tend to find plans a bit imposing at times, and I'm not really assertive enough to enjoy pushing them. The closest I got to a plan here was to suggest that we needed to do something about the Lighteyes vote and to raise possibilities for it. Those who have played on my team before will recall that even as an Eliminator, I don't really suggest plans, more than throw out possibilities and wargame with teammates. (Oh oops, King's the GM here. Sorry, nix that ) That's really as much as I can say. So two factors at stake here. At this point, I see more of the work being done in discussion than in planning. I am obviously not a Messenger, and therefore am not in an informational position to suggest how we could mobilise what we have beyond what has already been suggested by Ren in the very first post of this game. 3. "You're not actually making any effort to deny being a Spy/You're trying to bluff/You're playing reverse psychology/You're trolling and you've never done that before." To that, I can only reply: Guilty, guilty, guilty. I am a Spy. I make no attempt to deny it. Also, we should stop focusing on me, because it lets the other non-harmless Spies skitter by in the background.
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