Kasimir
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It's a potahto/potayto difference to me, since trusts are "I suspect them least" in a game without a proper Seeker, so sort of "lynch them last" rather than "This person will no longer be suspected." You should know this by now Reads should be kept fluid especially in a conversion game, simpliciter, and I think having an idea of where people stand and forcing them to justify shifts in their reads is the way to do it. Elims like not having to commit too hard to where they feel about players because of the potential to be held to their analysis. Why make things easier for them? After all, the whole point is that if someone suddenly does a 180 with little evidential basis, they're sus. Attitude changes can be reflective of a Villager updating beliefs in accordance with evidence, or team-motivated reasoning. This should be an alarm bell and then we need to distinguish between the two. How isn't this going to be an issue anyway? Suppose a player is instrumental in getting an Evil player lynched. Do you geniunely think that Sja is so daft that no one pointing this out or people mass-saying X isn't likely to be Evil will mean she won't ignore it? Shifting reads is the name of the game. It's why I hate conversion games -.- They're a pain and an awful nuisance as Village and worse still if some awful uppity spren lady converts you and doesn't get the frith off your damn porch. .......... ..................................... Araris Kasimir I can't live like this. He didn't say he'd claim, just took bets. Edited to add: @Matrim's Dice is not currently a trust, but is not my immediate Malibu candidate.
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Maybe it only works on Araris and Archer. Oh wait New player, who dis?
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[OOC: Should I bring out the sacred coin? The real question is how many of us looked at stuff people said, went "Seems sus, let's- oh wait" and remembered there is currently no Elim team and only one Elim today? 'Cause legit I went "Az and Illwei seem connected I don't like thi - oh gdi." Hey Malibu Sja-anat, I know you're out there looking for convertees but I feel obligated to tell you most of my bandwidth is currently dedicated to pursuing crimes against the laws of Golarion with my Inquisitor of Sarenrae >> It works somehow. Also I don't play football good. Tldr; dead doc >>> Evil doc kthxbai We blame TJ, he has made me paranoid.]
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Thing was, Aizu might've liked Matrim's reasoning, if not for the fact that someone was dying no matter what. [OOC: I think the only exception to a no lynch D1 is potentially a conversion game, or a game with guaranteed no N1 kill. I highlighted that chunk from Ash earlier because it points out that any refusal to lynch today will commit us to a roll of the dice, so the point is moot. Ahhh damnit I'm too tired to properly RP on mobile and I'll have to edit justification later. So TJ is off to me at the moment. I feel as though not prioritising suspicions simply enables Sja-anat and her eventual evil football team to get by with loose voting patterns. I really think that voting behaviour is the best way to make sense of allegiances and to do that we have to keep re-evaluating against a player's track record and who they are suddenly giving a pass to. Mat is also off — I feel as though Araris claiming Sja-anat off the bat is pretty decent reason for a vote and early pressure. Araris doesn't respond to pressure but all things being equal, I have no issue voting someone who flat out claims Elim. I don't think this is really comparable to Gears gaming the system. Same thing though. It's not even mid-cycle yet so why the immediate pushback?]
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Convenient, thought Aizu. Certainly saved them the trouble of bickering about whether or not they were going to have to identify someone suspicious among them. 'Course, he wasn't sure about that Winnie the Pooh lad. Seemed a mite out of place, and had threatened to put his grubby paws on Aizu's porch. Couldn't be having that now, could he?
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Hey grandpa, I don't know what sort of uncivilised land you come from but this is my porch, and any unholy rent-seeking abomination can stay off!
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No no no don't you dare, you get off my porch!
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Someone else has played this game? Wonderful Embarrassingly, it turns out the dragon is named Aivu instead, but I'll live, Aizu is fine
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This. I'm just acknowledging before anyone @s me for it that I am aware Aizu is the name of a cute havoc dragon in Wrath of the Righteous which is probably why I have her on the brain right now. Which I have been aggressively playing and will continue to aggressively play >>
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Urgh fine -.- Aizu. Aizu it is. Don't @ me WotR players I know she's cute but it's a nice name.
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Too much energy smh.
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Sigh. Quiet, RPful game Signing up as Aizu, a grumpy voidspren who drinks tea and yells at everyone to get off his porch. It doesn't have to make sense, y'all fight me. Don't expect much thought or engagement or serious play from me my brain is still firmly on Wrath of the Righteous for which we blame Wyrm. And Hael. Edit: Hell no I'm un-signing up now you can't make me deal with this.
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So basically you're saying that by induction, lynching you D1 is as good a strat as any?
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Thanks for GMing, Araris! I enjoyed what RPing I could, though I think it was apparent that by D3 (in the dead doc anyway) my brain had been more or less sucked into Golarion. Enjoyed the bushwhack with the Elim team roles and numbers, too, especially the Coinshot. Good job Team Village! That was one hell of a hammer misfire (RIP Elim team) but I appreciated the turnaround, with the assist from RNGesus (though 2/3 odds are not good odds.)
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Wow, great set-up! Welcome to the hobby! Wish I could say my handwriting has improved, though I do hope to copy out Oathbringer some day if my Uncial improves. What's your favourite pen and ink?
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>> I'm retired. And busy trying to save Golarion, what are you doing >>
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Will do Oh, sweet, I've heard good things about the Estie!
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Agreed! Speaking of bounciness - picked up a vintage Pel nib the other day, just a loose nib. Had a spare Grasty feed and housing so now it's inside and ready to go
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Curious about the Nebula too actually. I think everyone is trying to find their Tomoe River replacement at the moment That's sweet, I prefer #6 nibs to be honest!
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Oh huh, I did not realise that! I thought it was Kaweco-sized.
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Mat. I'm curious, and I've mentioned this briefly before, I think. Why did you not have that tone issue when pressed as Rhino? Were you deliberately trying to suppress it to hide your identity?
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Too thinky for me, not sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Besides I felt the need to defend my sacred right to be a lazy barve and low effort af.
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-Any red -[*color=red]STUFF[/*color] minus the asterisks is your best friend. -Actually really any red but try to bold it, it saves the GM's life and eyes. Source: Used to be a GM on this site, then I took a hammer to the knee.
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Since I got ninja-ed by Devo: @Elkanah, in answer to your question. Now that Tani has shown up, she's still a solid null for me, having not said enough to be read, though I lean a bit negative. Might be my bias/annoyance with low activity, which is semi-hypocritical as I don't intend to take this game that seriously and so haven't been bothering either. Point remains that it is a good spot to skate under the radar, and so players who narrowly avoid the filter with a bit of participation here and there, I tend to side-eye. But really it is that and a mix of "not enough information" at the moment. I've told you this before everytime it's come up, and I think I want to say this in the thread because I've gotten enough/heard enough about this from players in the past couple games even though I also admittedly slipped out of the chill zone in MR53 and LG79: chilling doesn't mean being completely irresponsible and telling the Village "lmao too bad guys I'm chilling so I'm not gonna contribute." That's being inconsiderate because if I'm a Villager, then Village still needs to be able to read me. Staying in the null zone by being zero effort isn't really doing my job either. Everytime I say I'm chilling, it boils down to: I don't intend to deep-read posts or do my usual vote pattern analysis for as long as I can avoid it, and I absolutely refuse to do link analysis. But if I don't give reads, how do I expect to be read? How do I expect to help my team? Like seriously guys. If you all think chill means 'sit back and don't do any analysis at all', I seriously worry for your interpretation of how to play this game, because you don't seem to have a conception of dialing it down without being an obstruction to your team. If it's not blatantly clear from my reads list, everything there was gleaned from a quick glance-over at the thread. I didn't do any in-depth reading, or cross-referencing. A lot of it is gut, and in some cases, I'm so uber low-effort I'm not even bothering to really poke and figure out why I feel the way I do. That's low effort but still giving something, and that's the kind of zone I want to stay in when I'm chilling. I don't want to chill selfishly. That's about it.
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I'm a little confused too. You want me to vote for someone I have bad gut of over someone I have a reasoned suspicion of? I don't even think this needs much saying. Reasoned suspicion (for whatever value of reason we can give D1 posts) should trump raw gut. Internet is holding for now, after I uninstalled and reinstalled half the things. Still holding my breath as it was a bad afternoon too but who knows.
