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I would also like to add that just because someone could theoretically grab the blade, and bond with it, doesn't mean they will know how to use the other abilities. This goes back to again how the blade took 10 heartbeats for Szeth to summon it, even though honorblades can be summoned instantly. Kal knows the power Szeth wields is coming from the sword because of Syl, but no one else knows that. As far as the general population is concerned, the assassin in white is an individual with incredible powers and a shardblade. An individual picking up the blade has no reason, unless informed by groups "in the know", to think the honorblade would do anything other than any other shardblade. So if the individual who then gets the sword thinks it is just a shardblade, for that individual it will just function as a shardblade, till they are enlightened otherwise, so no wall running.

But in another thread you pointed out that Szeth was not using the honorblade to its full capabilities. For example, Sezeth thinking the honorblade needed 10 heart beats to be summoned, so for him that was how it functioned, even though in reality it could be summoned instantly. So assuming the honorblade can't do certain things, just because someone who doesn't know all its uses couldn't, doesn't mean it couldn't for a person who DOES know all its uses.

so in rough conclusion, using advanced technology far exceeding the level existing on Scadrial, which entails a sniper rifle, an aluminum bullet with an liquid mercury aluminum core, and a clear headshot, a normal person could potentially kill the Lord Ruler. Pah, who needs Vin and preservation after all! lol

I agree with the logic, but going on that premise, would he not have then seen what Vin would have done before she tore his metal minds from him?

I just realized something.......BAYMAX IS A FIRESOUL FERRING! Pleeeeeeaaassseeeee tell me I am not the only person who saw Big Hero 6

Just to clarify, I have included a link that details the bullet a bit more, and includes an image. The reason I brought it up, is the aluminum bullet did sound like it functioned the way silver would on a lycan in the movie. If you shot a lycan with a silver bullet, it would burn/hurt, and could not be healed till the bullet was removed. Older lycans with a greater healing capacity, could remove the bullet, heal in seconds and keep going. This new bullet was to get the silver right into the blood stream, and make removing the bullet pointless. Now in the Underworld case, it was with the goal of poisoning, while my goal is more to inflict wounds that cannot be healed nor removed. So if the initial bullet hits, and then releases the liquid aluminum, then the lord ruler would be left clawing at the wound trying to scrape out the liquid in order to heal from it. Thereby a head shot, or a shot to any other vital part of the body could potentially be lethal since it could not be healed. But as I said this movie acted on very sketchy logic. They also had an extremely impossible UV bullet to kill vampires that worked on the same principle, and in fact was the progenitor of the silver nitrate bullet. I just didn't know if it was mechanically feasible at all in the real world to make such a silver nitrate bullet nontheless an aluminum version. So based on what you are saying, theoretically adding mercury could keep the aluminum in a liquid state for the extent of the trajectory and penetration? Here is the link i mentioned earlier: http://underworld.wikia.com/wiki/Silver_Nitrate_Bullets

The problem would be with how love triangles have frequently been portrayed in the past. Instead of it being a real conflict of emotions and investment in relationships, it has become the teenage version of "oh well he or she has dreamy brown eyes, and is dark and brooding, while the other he or she has icy blue eyes, and is cold and distant. Which oh which do I chose to share my tender heart with!?!?" edit: it could be argued that that has already played out in the mistborn trilogy between vin, elend and zane, but I like to think of that less as a love triangle and more of an identity crisis for Vin and Elend, with Zane being the catalyst that challenged their self perceived images of themselves.

In my opinion you would end up choking before being able to test the theory. When you store breath you hyperventilate. I think that would be rather problematic while trying to take a drag off a joint or bowl. conversely the question could be applied to bendalloy which lets you store nutrition. would drinking a beer while storing store the buzz? I think not, since the description states nutrition, and I view that to mean calories. Though would that still take your liver to task?

Sorry, that was what I was attempting to define in the two examples I gave. If for instance the last scene is of a character possibly dying, and we do not know the result, for that to be the end of the first five books, and we have to wait in book world terms years to find out, oh so and so actually didn't die and is fine doesn't sit well for me. Meanwhile if Odium "wins" but there are groups of main characters still alive to hole up and prepare to fight back, then I could totally see a multi year break beginning at that point.

So I have a question that popped in my mind regarding Feruchemical brass that I wonder if anyone could help me. If you were a brass compounder, could you potentially raise your body temperature high enough to melt the very metals on your body that you are compounding?

Granted but you can only use one ability at a time, and since the royal locks are always on, you can never use your other abilities, even when you shave your head. I wish for all the mistborn books of all four trilogies were out for me to read, time to enjoy them, perfect memory retention of them, and they be utterly enjoyable

I do not know much about creating ballistics, and this is coming from a movie with very sketchy logic, but could a gun maker develop a bullet like the liquid silver ones in the movie Underworld? Basically a bullet that upon entering the body, breaks up, releasing a liquid core. That would deliver the aluminum into the body, and prevent the bloodmaker/thug from removing it to heal. Thoughts?

I am definitely on board with the warning system. I am forgetting a lot of names, but didn't the merchant that was showing his protege around, have a fabrial that could notify the user of individuals approaching in a radius? What if the stone shamans have access to more advanced fabrials left over from the time of the heralds, that could track individuals as many people here posit?

Exactly what I meant, so would that be a form of psychopathy?

I do not know how to separate your post into numerous quotes so I can answer each section, so I will space my replies out below and hope they link up in a sensible way. Absence of a smoking gun is not evidence that there WASN'T a smoking gun. Straff Venture bedded numerous mistresses in order to hopefully produce a mistborn, as well as have a secret group of mistings to use in his intrigues. If one nobleman was willing and actively breeding for the trait for a secret army, is it so far fetched that other noblemen might look upon it favorably and take it into consideration in regards to arranged marriages and alliances? I didn't say the new system was based on the old, just that they were similar. Both in the old and the new series we have houses that derive their prosperity and some of their authority from their ancestors who were well know allomancers at the start of their societies. We have women being kidnapped from well known allomantic ancestral lines. The comments we read regarding what appeals to a house for a marriage alliance is from WAX'S perspective. His house already has a twinborn. What does it lack? MONEY. What does he mention being important in the match for his house? MONEY. I did a cursory check for the word marriage in Alloy of Law using my kindle and I do not see any mention on what makes HIM marketable to THEM. Though I will admit this was a cursory check and I could have missed something. I feel marriage being restructured COULD be a new system from scratch but not automatically WOULD be. In our own world arranged marriages still exist in numerous countries, anywhere from culturally acceptable (India for instance), to group by group (Some families in some states of America) and so on. So marriage even on our own planet has not been completely reworked, so it is not empirical that because it is a new start at a culture, it would be a completely new outlook on marriage. Sure people marrying for love and other reasons would pop up more and be more prevalent around the general masses, but the aristocracy still existed for quite some time in England and still does in Alloy of Law. So if you were a merchant with lets say some ties to the mob, or less than reputable assets. Wouldn't it be VERY beneficial to be an archivist where you could store all your files, all your black mail, and all your financials in your metal minds where no cop or rival could access them? And if you are marrying in hopes of having allomancy, feruchemy, or twinborn passes on, you would find out as soon as possible if your child has the ability, what the ability is, and then train them in it to exploit it. So if you were a merchant and the child you have is a Feruchemical zinc, could be an asset in negotiations, you would see to it that they get training in negotiations. When a child takes over the business, the parent trains them in all aspects of the job. I am not saying they would breed for SPECIFIC abilities, just that having a child WITH an ability is more advantageous than one WITHOUT. So the aristocracy from our own history has never been guilty of inbreeding in order to maintain "pure blood"? There was never a great war fought over maintaining a purity in breeding? It is not an impossible gamble if there are clear instances popping up all around you. Maybe to clarify further, I am not saying "oh this is a house that has nothing we want, but the great grandfather of the current head was a lurcher, so lets marry sally off to him!". What I AM saying is "well we need an alliance from a strong house. House A has a strong fleet, while House B has a profitable factory. Hmmm, House B also has a daughter who is a soother. We don't really have interests overseas, so the factory would aid us more, and a soother in negotiations could be a boon. Have my second son be married off to her. Who knows we may be lucky and end up with another misting"

Only thing is when Szeth died, it DIDN'T immediately revert back to them to summon to their side. Kal picked it up and held onto it. It never vanished.

I don't remember where but I could have sworn I read that there is a bit of a time jump between the first 5 and the second 5 which would imply to me at least not a huge cliffhanger because then theoretically we wouldn't find out what happened "years" in book later. And when I say cliff hanger, i mean: while i view this as a minor cliffhanger: they fought and succeeded overcoming Odium from returning, but only for now and must stay vigilant because they do not know what his next attempt might be. Kind of like an end of an episode of a kids show versus the season finale that ends the show completely. edit:

True true, and I whole heartily support your endeavor. I just wasn't sure if there was a new piece of info I was missing. I have been MIA for a few weeks so have been catching up. Good luck!

I forget but in the book world, who named the planet First of the Sun? Would a primitive culture necessarily know the positioning of its planet and other bodies of planets? I could see a culture's religion stating that the sun is a god that created the planet and people on it so it would not feel alone (i am dimly recalling a real world myth that runs along this thread), and so the planet and its people would be first of the sun, but not necessarily intrinsically mean it is the closet planet to the sun. The OF in First OF of the Sun is what is making me leery of assuming that it is the closest planet. Unless Brandon or some book explicitly stated it was, in which case all I stated is mute lol

Does being a psychopath require indiscriminate lack of empathy? Or can you value a certain group, but exhibit psychopathic traits towards another group? These are genuine questions I hope someone can answer for me. I feel from Brandon's words, when he stated lack of empathy, was in regarding to those Kelsier killed. That for Kelsier there was never a hesitation, or consideration of the life he just ended and certainly no remorse after the action. Kelsier validated this by stating it was because they aligned with the Lord Ruler. If that warrants the label of psychopathy, then wouldn't the goal of just about every military on the planet be to turn their soldiers into psychopaths when placed before the enemy? To not see the enemy as a person, but a threat to be eliminated.

My one gripe is he couldn't have known she was mistborn, so him beating her to make her better with pewter could not have been his intention because he would have not known that would have been the result. However I am in the camp of he loved Vin, simply because if he didn't then there was absolutely no reason to keep her around. He could have easily made a life low key as a thief on his own without having to look out for a girl who was in perpetual danger of being attacked and raped, an extra mouth to feed, slowed him down due to her age, and continually having to be on the move to avoid hunting inquisitors.

Regarding marriage based on ability, that was very prevalent in the original Mistborn trilogy and was the prime reason the Lord Ruler had the law forbidding the nobility from having children with the skaa. I forget where, but there was a comment between Vin and Elend on how over the years the blood has been so diluted anyway, the physical differences between nobility and skaa have become negligible. Now tack on the time between the original trilogy and the Alloy of Law with intermarrying no longer being illegal, and the differences would be diluted even further. Now despite that, there are still noble houses in existence, and these houses trace back to notable allomancers (Breeze and Wax for instance). Would it be such a stretch that these houses would not only marry for money but allomantic and feruchemal potential as well? I could think of a hundred reasons why a Feruchemical zinc or a Feruchemical copper would be insanely valuable to a merchant family.

Is there WoB or any evidence in book that supports that? Not saying you are wrong or right, just wanted to check if this is new info I haven't heard yet.

Granted, you get a an expensive apartment in manhattan for free, and can never go to VA. This works for me, because then I get a super expensive apartment for free, and i get to stay in the same state . I wish for a not so white christmas. i HATE snow

Be an iron misting, with Lift's awesomeness, so anytime you eat you have "metal" to burn, but also have a nervous tick that results in you flaring iron at inopportune times. have fun meeting your significant other's family!