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BioChroma may be end-neutral, depending on how you define it. Apart from the initial color to fuel the transfer, nothing is ever really gained or lost when using Breath.

I'll do you one better. Source: So here's Brandon essentially saying that Hoid didn't burn the Lerasium, and probably no one else did either.

According to Wyndle, she's turning it directly into stormlight, so it seems not. Metal is used to key for power on Scadrial, while it seems that Lift is just turning food into stormlight directly, without any intervening step to get power from a 3rd party. So no, it doesn't seem that she is.

Okay, the idea that personally burning Copper more fundamentally messes with your own Bronze is easy enough to accept. As for the "LOS" problem with coppercloud: maybe. I thought about it myself, but I'm not quite sure if it would work that way. If pulses are really "drumbeats" on reality, then they would still be able to propagate around dead spots, wouldn't they? So maybe the area directly behind the cloud wouldn't be able to hear the pulses, but a bit farther away and you'd be fine.

I imagine he did, since he plotted out and wrote all 3 books together.

What an interesting idea, Vortaan... Though, specifically on the topic of Seeking within bubbles, we know that, to some extent, you can't. This is WoB.

@knight I gave you the only quote we have. It's a paraphrase from Chaos. That's the "actual WoB." @Mal Forgive me, but by far the most obvious resolution to this "discrepancy" is that Brandon meant/said that Copperclouds stop Seekers from Seeking out just as we'll as they stop them from Seeking in. Since Vin can seek in, then, she can Seek out just as well when in someone else's cloud.

@name_here What Mailliw said. So far as the first time Kelsier burns Copper, when it shuts Vin's Seeking down, I can't recall if she was wearing her earring at the time. If she was, then I'd imagine that a sudden dampening of the pulse might have seemed like a simple shutdown to her the very first time she burned Bronze.

I think that we're just saying "non-Physical" at that point.

@name_here I will refer you to the unambiguous WoB that simply being Smoked is enough to stop you from Seeking. So we needn't posit any special interference when one person attempts both. @Mailliw Either an inconsistency or, under a charitable interpretation, the Seeker is off to the side in another room or building—outside the range of the cloud—and checks in periodically.

Just hook your kindle up to the computer, Calibre will notice it, then you can have Calibre send the book to your kindle. Alternatively, you could probably get away with copy-pasting the file directly into your kindle.

@bloodfalcon Yes, Calibre is awesome. @Shardlet Calibre is awesome. Right hand to tWoK, Calibre would work perfectly for what you need. All it'll do is take in the Amazon-version and spit out a DRM-free copy of it, in the same format and everything. There are also a number of tutorials that make it quite simple. Give not into the un-savviness!

'Twasn't sure whether he was counting TES as a "companion" book.

Legion isn't exactly his best work... Have you read TES yet? It's short and awesome.

It's more a paraphrase, but it's from Chaos, so I think it's pretty solid: If you are Smoked, you can't Seek Or Allomantic copper has a singular effect that is to dampen "pulses" in the immediate area around the Smoker. So this results in the complete annihilation of pulses originating from within the cloud and partial annihilation (just the parts that enter the cloud, while the rest pulse about in the rest of the world without being bothered) of pulses that enter it from the outside. It might not be quite that easy. I don't think Seekers normally detect themselves (Vin only notices Kelsier's pulses stopping when he starts burning copper, not some sudden "fizzling" of her own power), so if one were just walking around by himself, it would just seem like any other sources had just stopped burning. Of course, you can solve this by walking around with an Allomancer friend in tow: just have him/her burn some other metal and walk right next to you, then you know that something's up as soon as you can't detect your pal. So far as using this to find Smokers, it might not be an entirely practical matter. Clouds aren't that big, and it's a big honking city.

Also, there's a great piece of freeware known as "calibre" that'll make your life so very much better. Assuming you own the kindle that an ebook is associated with, it'll let you strip off the DRM and just have a regular ebook file. Then you can just throw it onto any other e-reading device. It'll also allow you to manage metadata and Kindle Collections and whatnot, but that's all gravy on-top of stripping of the DRM, so far as I'm concerned. -Oh, you do need to grab some plugins to strip off the DRM, but they're free and legit and accessible within the program and whatnot.

@Gloom That's not too far off, I don't think. On reflection, I may have been a bit to broad in the OP. Recall, though, that Allomantic copper also blocks emotional Allomancy, both for the Smoker and potentially everyone else in the cloud. Perhaps, then, instead of "perceptual" Investiture, we should talk about relatively weak Investiture and/or that which acts only on the Cognitive/Spiritual?

@Darnam Let us gather and sing. @Robot As I clarified to Claincy, "absorb" isn't quite the right word. Also, even if Allomantic copper was more absorbent than the regular brand, I wouldn't call it end-negative because of that. After all, Aluminum flat-out annihilates metal reserves without so much as a by-your-leave, and we aren't calling that end-negative.

Just off the top of my head, I'd guess nothing special in this particular case. You can't drain a white object, despite the fact that it's technically going to be whatever color is being reflected on it at the time, so I'd guess Awakening needs to work with the "inherent" color of an object under normal conditions.

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Yes, yes it does. And it was only 20 minutes...

I'm not quite so sure on this. I agree that Shardblades almost certainly act in the Spiritual, but they well might act in the Physical at the same time when it comes to non-living objects. Note how they "fuzz" when "cutting" living people, but not rocks. That suggests that something more is happening in the second case. Perhaps not, but worth keeping in mind. This is wrong, I think. First of all, "severed" limbs don't die, they're simply paralyzed. This is exposited in the prologue, I believe. It's not like the thing rots off. Or you might be talking exclusively about "whole body death" and assuming simple paralysis for every other case, in which case I apologize for misinterpreting you. Also, killing the person outright seems to be of a different type from killing a limb, as it causes the emission of black smoke akin to Nightblood's. Given that connection, I think it may be fair to say that it's more a case of destruction than that the Spiritual aspect simply "stops working." Or, once again, I could be misinterpreting you. Or wrong. More concretely, you are wrong about a pair of things: First: Healing is determined by Cognitive aspects, not Spiritual. Second: Feruchemical Gold, at the least, can repair "severed" limbs: Also, tangentially, we can surmise from these two facts that Shardblades most certainly do not damage Cognitive aspects, at least when they're not killing you outright. It's interesting. Shardblades seem pretty intent on killing the whole limb once they get to the middle of it, though: wouldn't they also be inclined to kill organs is they touch part of it? It seems like Shardblades are in the business of getting to any given "branch" of the spiritweb and then burning it back to where it splits off from the main trunk (along the spine, it would seem). In that case, they'd burn out everything on the path that any given bindpoint rested on, not just the one point. Just click "Edit" and then "Use Full Editor" on the OP, then you should be able to mess with the tags. EDIT: *Grumble grumble* I take the time for a nice detailed post, then ninjas pop out of the woodwork *Grumble* EDIT 2: I'll have to disagree with Claincy here, actually. I think that any "proper" healing magic could deal with a "severed" limb, and that stormlight is somewhat uniquely deficient in this case. So Regrowth could probably get the job done. Also, Feruchemical gold is technically a Physical metal, so it's "hybrid" status is not necessarily making it special in also affecting at least one other Realm.

I suppose we were talking at something of cross-purposes, then. I'm happy to let it lie, though I really don't have a leg to stand on so far as criticizing thread-derailment goes.

Yeah the game is... troubling. I believe that a tech demo had the character "lifting up and manipulating" objects with Iron/Steel. That induced some cringe. Edit: Ah, here it is "Fiddle also lifted and tossed around some metal objects, demonstrating some of the proposed puzzle potential in the game." http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2012/1564.html

I'm not sure I do get your point, given that I was supporting your argument against Claincy... At this point I'm honestly unsure on what we're supposed to be disagreeing about. As I said, the idea that Nalthians have a minute smidgen of a bit of extra life force is somewhat plausible. That still gets you to around the same average if you're not measuring things with an electron microscope.