How does Marsh live?

[+Oltux72 he/him]

I mean in a purely practical sense, not the atium compounding.

Does he hide in a cave somewhere? Does he do his own laundry? What does he eat? Whence does he get his metal? He is death incarnate. He cannot hold a 9 to 5 job and just go shopping for groceries without causing a mass panic. Does he have an investment fond, a remote manor house and a few dedicated servants with a network of safe places? Does he control some coloss? Does he rob a bank every few years? Does he run a soothing parlor?

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

4 minutes ago, Oltux72 said:

I mean in a purely practical sense, not the atium compounding.

Does he hide in a cave somewhere? Does he do his own laundry? What does he eat? Whence does he get his metal? He is death incarnate. He cannot hold a 9 to 5 job and just go shopping for groceries without causing a mass panic. Does he have an investment fond, a remote manor house and a few dedicated servants with a network of safe places? Does he control some coloss? Does he rob a bank every few years? Does he run a soothing parlor?

The Sliverists probably donate funds that go to him. The Survivorists certainly tithe and Kell is hardly going to leave his brother unsupported. I’d guess it’s a combination of the two.

Although in my comic, Death owns a very nice apartment in the breakouts. Kelsier owns multiple manors and a penthouse. Most of which he’s never in. His crew uses them for various purposes and Marsh has been known to crash in them.

Edited April 11, 2021 by Kingsdaughter613

[Aspiring Writer]

I would like to remind people that Marsh has his own religion and is called Iron eyes and is basically Scadrials grim reaper.

[+Oltux72 he/him]

1 hour ago, Aspiring Writer said:

I would like to remind people that Marsh has his own religion and is called Iron eyes and is basically Scadrials grim reaper.

How cool is Marsh with that? Does he really want regular contact with an organization founded by an obligator? Yes they certainly venerate Marsh, but is the relationship mutual?

 

1 hour ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

The Survivorists certainly tithe and Kell is hardly going to leave his brother unsupported. I’d guess it’s a combination of the two.

So are there people who have regular contact to him? Which of Scadrial's religions is monastic? Monks dedicated to martial arts does sound Survivorist. Is that what the monks of Baz-Kor are?

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

2 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

How cool is Marsh with that? Does he really want regular contact with an organization founded by an obligator? Yes they certainly venerate Marsh, but is the relationship mutual?

 

So are there people who have regular contact to him? Which of Scadrial's religions is monastic? Monks dedicated to martial arts does sound Survivorist. Is that what the monks of Baz-Kor are?

Knowing Kelsier, there are likely several priests who are very aware of his existence. How else is he going to manipu- check in on his followers?

[Honorless he/him]

4 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Does he hide in a cave somewhere? Does he do his own laundry? What does he eat? Whence does he get his metal? He is death incarnate. He cannot hold a 9 to 5 job and just go shopping for groceries without causing a mass panic. Does he have an investment fond, a remote manor house and a few dedicated servants with a network of safe places? Does he control some coloss? Does he rob a bank every few years? Does he run a soothing parlor?

Those are very good questions

I think either Harmony & the Kandra provide him with the necessities, or he has an in with the Sliverists or perhaps even the Survivorists, via his brother. 

[Honorless he/him]

On 4/12/2021 at 8:06 AM, More Cynical Than Funny said:

Also in Harmony's religion too I think (I'm blanking on the name)

The Path

and yes, as all the new Scadrian religions share some major myths/historical events from Sazed's records

Edited June 23, 2021 by Honorless

[SirWatermelon]

For the food issue, I would assume compounding bendalloy, for caloric energy, which would require very little food to keep him sustained. If I'm understanding how that works correctly.

[Raphaborn]

3 hours ago, SirWatermelon said:

Para a questão da comida, eu assumiria a composição da liga bendalloy, para energia calórica, o que exigiria muito pouca comida para mantê-lo sustentado. Se estou entendendo como isso funciona corretamente.

It is really uncertain that Marsh has Era 2 powers spikes.

[Weltall]

3 hours ago, SirWatermelon said:

For the food issue, I would assume compounding bendalloy, for caloric energy, which would require very little food to keep him sustained. If I'm understanding how that works correctly.

It could work, but that would require him to have spikes with F-Bendalloy and A-Bendalloy, neither of which were known powers during the Final Empire (except by Rashek at any rate) so the odds of him having one of those much less both are pretty much nil. The odds of him obtaining spikes from people once those powers did become known are even lower.

[+Oltux72 he/him]

5 hours ago, SirWatermelon said:

For the food issue, I would assume compounding bendalloy, for caloric energy, which would require very little food to keep him sustained. If I'm understanding how that works correctly.

With which metals? The Final Empire had not big supplies, likelier none at all, of bendalloy for him to burn. It may be something he is doing in Era 2 (provided he has the spikes) , but what about the decades or even centuries between that and the Catacendre?

[SirWatermelon]

23 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

With which metals? The Final Empire had not big supplies, likelier none at all, of bendalloy for him to burn. It may be something he is doing in Era 2 (provided he has the spikes) , but what about the decades or even centuries between that and the Catacendre?

My thought was that harmony had provided some, or knowledge of how to produce bendalloy. And the point you bring up about the spikes is one I hadn't thought of, with no known bendalloy mistings to spike, and mistborn being too valuable, it's unlikely he would have them at the time or at all. However, we do know that the land that would become Elendel is bountiful, so he could've started a small farm, or gotten food from the townsfolk during the 350 year period. Maybe just until he could acquire those spikes. I couldn't find any note about this on the coppermind page, but perhaps similarly inquisitors age more slowly than humans, they also need to eat less, just as koloss can subsist on dead plants under the ash.

[Chinkoln he/him]

On 4/12/2021 at 0:26 PM, Weltall said:

The odds of him obtaining spikes from people once those powers did become known are even lower.

I don’t know, he spent time with Spook and the other members of Kelsier’s former crew after the Catacendre. We know that Spook was lobbying the idea of the sick and elderly sacrificing their lives to create spikes. It is possible that they ran some test programs and gave Marsh the spikes.

[Weltall]

58 minutes ago, Chinkoln said:

I don’t know, he spent time with Spook and the other members of Kelsier’s former crew after the Catacendre. We know that Spook was lobbying the idea of the sick and elderly sacrificing their lives to create spikes. It is possible that they ran some test programs and gave Marsh the spikes.

Rashek and Kelsier might have known about bendalloy thanks to Ascension-granted understanding but that doesn't mean that Final Empire-period Scadrial can actually make it, which would be required to test for bendalloy mistings/ferrings and make metalminds for someone to actually use.

[Chinkoln he/him]

10 minutes ago, Weltall said:

Rashek and Kelsier might have known about bendalloy thanks to Ascension-granted understanding but that doesn't mean that Final Empire-period Scadrial can actually make it, which would be required to test for bendalloy mistings/ferrings and make metalminds for someone to actually use.

Ya, that is true. By the time they had the ability to make it, they would have stopped testing, and hemalurgy would have fallen to the wayside.

[+robardin he/him]

Well, what is Marsh up to in Era 2?

His little encounter with Marasi in Elendel at the end of AoL is all we have to go on as a first person encounter. At the end of it, he simply covers up his head/face and and Steelpushes away over the tops of the buildings, as any Coinshot might do and would not be something of particular notice in a city like Elendel.

This after speaking pretty knowingly of the kind of person "Lord Waxillium" is, and Marasi's identity as "Lady Marasi Colms". So either he moves about quite well disguised, or he has a network of agents available to him.

He's also obliquely mentioned (much earlier in AoL) as an object of "reverence" by those following "Sliverism", a descendant sect of the worship of the Lord Ruler adhered to by the Yomens. And we have WoB stating that Inquisitors still need to do certain necessities of physical life, which implies eating food. So maybe it's the Sliverists?
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But we also have a WoB from 2014 saying that Marsh is "investigating the Southern Continent of Scadrial", where his... Unusual features would not have any known reason or association. So who knows. Maybe Way Down South, Marsh is also revered/worshiped without any association with nearly causing the end of the world; in fact, he probably resembles The Sovereign in many ways, both with similar facial features and him having more than just the one spike through the eye.

And he did say he considered Wax "doing my brother's work" as something he wanted to encourage, even against Harmony's wishes.

So maybe Marsh has a Malwish cabana he can kick back in style without hiding himself, and only comes to Elendel in person on the occasion when he needs to prop up Sliverism or (as with Spook's book) take a personal hand in making sure something he wants done is done right.

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

27 minutes ago, robardin said:

Well, what is Marsh up to in Era 2?

His little encounter with Marasi in Elendel at the end of AoL is all we have to go on as a first person encounter. At the end of it, he simply covers up his head/face and and Steelpushes away over the tops of the buildings, as any Coinshot might do and would not be something of particular notice in a city like Elendel.

This after speaking pretty knowingly of the kind of person "Lord Waxillium" is, and Marasi's identity as "Lady Marasi Colms". So either he moves about quite well disguised, or he has a network of agents available to him.

He's also obliquely mentioned (much earlier in AoL) as an object of "reverence" by those following "Sliverism", a descendant sect of the worship of the Lord Ruler adhered to by the Yomens. And we have WoB stating that Inquisitors still need to do certain necessities of physical life, which implies eating food. So maybe it's the Sliverists?
.
But we also have a WoB from 2014 saying that Marsh is "investigating the Southern Continent of Scadrial", where his... Unusual features would not have any known reason or association. So who knows. Maybe Way Down South, Marsh is also revered/worshiped without any association with nearly causing the end of the world; in fact, he probably resembles The Sovereign in many ways, both with similar facial features and him having more than just the one spike through the eye.

And he did say he considered Wax "doing my brother's work" as something he wanted to encourage, even against Harmony's wishes.

So maybe Marsh has a Malwish cabana he can kick back in style without hiding himself, and only comes to Elendel in person on the occasion when he needs to prop up Sliverism or (as with Spook's book) take a personal hand in making sure something he wants done is done right.

Per Brandon Marsh’s line about ‘doing his brother’s work’ is talking to Marasi from the perspective of Survivorism. He’s of... mixed minds on the subject in reality.

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Southerners were aware of the Sovereign’s brother. I doubt Marsh and Kell spent decades without any contact.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

I think that the southern Scadrians have good hospitality to Marsh and they give him Cinnamon rolls

Edited April 14, 2021 by Thaidakar, Lord of Scars

[Regent she/her]

This is Marsh we're talking about. He would manage.

Edited April 15, 2021 by caramel_