A baby ??? Whattt ???

[Friendshipspren he/him]

So I found this interesting WoB.

Questioner

What happens if you burn duralumin while Compounding?

Brandon Sanderson

Duralumin while Compounding. So, what duralumin does is it burns out of all of your metal in one burst. So it doesn't necessarily gain you power, it makes it all happen at the same time. The same thing would happen.

Questioner

Could you turn into a baby?

Brandon Sanderson

Oh, you could totally turn into a baby. That is within the power of using that, doing <health wrong>, yeah you could totally... You'd be really dangerous.

 

Wth does it mean ? How could u turn into a baby by compounding gold. I know it stores like ur manifestation in space-time at the current moment and releases it back to recover from injuries by replacing ur current manifestation in space-time with ur old healthy , stored one . Your spiritual identity plays a role too. But I was under the impression that gold couldn't affect age . 

If it did , tlr would be running naked in luthadel ,drunk on joy. Tlr did know about duralumin right ??

So what does it mean ? Is it a joke ? A misquote ? Or is Lord Sanderson referring to some other metal ? 

Also yeah would happen if u burned duralumin while compounding atium ? 

[Quantus he/him]

Easiest answer is probably that he was thinking Atium rather than Gold.  Hard to say, but the only actual reference to health/Gold as the specific metal being compounded looks to be an editor fill-in over what Im guessing was a lost section of the audio.  

[Calderis he/him]

28 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Easiest answer is probably that he was thinking Atium rather than Gold.  Hard to say, but the only actual reference to health/Gold as the specific metal being compounded looks to be an editor fill-in over what Im guessing was a lost section of the audio.  

This. 

The only way anything we know of is going to turn you into a baby (or possibly worse outcomes of developmental regression that would probably kill you) is feruchemical atium. 

[Karger he/him]

47 minutes ago, Calderis said:

The only way anything we know of is going to turn you into a baby (or possibly worse outcomes of developmental regression that would probably kill you) is feruchemical atium. 

Only answer that makes sense.

[Use the Falchion]

The ultimate "do-over" for life right there. 

[+Harrycrapper]

I still want to see a short story where TLR accidentally overshot his compounding on the first try and ended up as a baby. Suggested title: Three Inquisitors and a Baby.

[Friendshipspren he/him]

Ok then why didn't tlr just do that or is it temororary . Like u get to be a baby for 3 seconds and then age back ?

[Quantus he/him]

2 hours ago, PrinceGenocide said:

Ok then why didn't tlr just do that or is it temororary . Like u get to be a baby for 3 seconds and then age back ?

He wanted to convince everyone he was All-Powerful and Immortal in his own right, he didnt want them to realize that he'd simply found a magic loophole. He also hid entirely metals in the magic system, and convinced everyone that his metalminds were hemalurgic.   Not to mention, babies are weak and fragile and not a fun body to be stuck in with a full adult mind.  Better to maintain yourself at your physical prime, I would say.  

[Friendshipspren he/him]

Well not a baby exactly. Like suppose he limited the amount of charged atium he burned so he would only turn into a teen or like a 20 yr old. Of course it would take trials and errors but he could start by using very small quantities of charged atium ( that would de-age him 1 yr or a few months ) at first till he gets a better idea and grasp  of it . Also since he's the only guy who can burn charged atium and knows about duralumin and about atium's feruchemical application and about feruchemy itself ( very few ppl knew about feruchemy thanks to his suppression of terris culture ) and then there's the fact he's the only guy who can afford that much atium , I think it wouldn't be too hard to pull it off as another divine miracle. 

30 minutes ago, Quantus said:

He wanted to convince everyone he was All-Powerful and Immortal in his own right, he didnt want them to realize that he'd simply found a magic loophole. He also hid entirely metals in the magic system, and convinced everyone that his metalminds were hemalurgic.   Not to mention, babies are weak and fragile and not a fun body to be stuck in with a full adult mind.  Better to maintain yourself at your physical prime, I would say.  

 

Edited September 17, 2019 by PrinceGenocide
Some polishing

[Quantus he/him]

1 minute ago, PrinceGenocide said:

Well not a baby exactly. Like suppose he limited the amount of charged atium he burned so he would only turn into a teen or like a 20 yr old. Of course it would take trials and errors but he could start by using very small quantities of charged atium ( that would de-age him 1 yr or a few months ) at first till he gets a better idea and grasp  of it . Also since he's the only guy who can burn charged atium and knows about duralumin , I think it wouldn't be too hard to pull it off as another divine miracle. 

 

Isnt that what he did do, though?  He compounded Atium burned enough to keep him in a comfortable physical prime.  We do know that it started taking more and more as he got further and further from his natural age, but I dont see any benefit from going younger than you have to.  

[Friendshipspren he/him]

1 minute ago, PrinceGenocide said:

Well not a baby exactly. Like suppose he limited the amount of charged atium he burned so he would only turn into a teen or like a 20 yr old. Of course it would take trials and errors but he could start by using very small quantities of charged atium ( that would de-age him 1 yr or a few months ) at first till he gets a better idea and grasp  of it . Also since he's the only guy who can burn charged atium and knows about duralumin , I think it wouldn't be too hard to pull it off as another divine miracle. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Quantus said:

Isnt that what he did do, though?  He compounded Atium burned enough to keep him in a comfortable physical prime.  We do know that it started taking more and more as he got further and further from his natural age, but I dont see any benefit from going younger than you have to.  

Ok I get ur point. But suppose he de-aged himself to a 20 yr old , then he could grow till 40 naturally , then try the trick again . I wonder if feruchemy's law of decreasing return would be made null by it ? If it were , tlr would be immortal in the true sense. Also , wait would it be temporary or not , like  would his age be stabilized. Like he could stop burning atium and still be 20 yrs old and aging normally. If that's the case then no chance of him dying by rapid aging by which he died .

[Govir]

3 hours ago, PrinceGenocide said:

 

Ok I get ur point. But suppose he de-aged himself to a 20 yr old , then he could grow till 40 naturally , then try the trick again . I wonder if feruchemy's law of decreasing return would be made null by it ? If it were , tlr would be immortal in the true sense. Also , wait would it be temporary or not , like  would his age be stabilized. Like he could stop burning atium and still be 20 yrs old and aging normally. If that's the case then no chance of him dying by rapid aging by which he died .

The issue is that it takes constant power to remain younger. Feruchemy requires a "battery". For Atium (aging), you charge the battery with youth by spending time older. This is normally a 1:1 ratio, e.g. spend 1 month time 1 year older and you can spend 1 month time 1 year younger. With compounding, all that happens is that you can take your power storage and multiply it, there's still storage, but you don't have to spend as much time Older. (Burning a metalmind does release power of the same type, but it is at a constant rate. whereas drawing from a metalmind can be done at different rates)

Therefore, de-aging yourself to 20yrs old is not a one and done thing. It constantly requires power. So you could do what you're saying (de-age to 20, age naturally to 40), but you'd still require power. It would be *less* power than trying to stay 20 that whole time, but it wouldn't be zero power.

From what I know of Compounding (i.e. what's in the Coppermind article), TLR never needed to worry about running out of power. He just had to worry about his battery being ripped away from him (which, spoilers, is exactly what happened).

[Honorless he/him]

On 9/16/2019 at 11:14 PM, PrinceGenocide said:

So I found this interesting WoB.

Questioner

What happens if you burn duralumin while Compounding?

Brandon Sanderson

Duralumin while Compounding. So, what duralumin does is it burns out of all of your metal in one burst. So it doesn't necessarily gain you power, it makes it all happen at the same time. The same thing would happen.

Questioner

Could you turn into a baby?

Brandon Sanderson

Oh, you could totally turn into a baby. That is within the power of using that, doing <health wrong>, yeah you could totally... You'd be really dangerous.

 

Wth does it mean ? How could u turn into a baby by compounding gold. I know it stores like ur manifestation in space-time at the current moment and releases it back to recover from injuries by replacing ur current manifestation in space-time with ur old healthy , stored one . Your spiritual identity plays a role too. But I was under the impression that gold couldn't affect age . 

If it did , tlr would be running naked in luthadel ,drunk on joy. Tlr did know about duralumin right ??

So what does it mean ? Is it a joke ? A misquote ? Or is Lord Sanderson referring to some other metal ? 

I think that might Connect you to everyone and basically make you very likeable to them or "make you their baby" 

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Honorless

[Lunu’anaki he/him]

On 9/17/2019 at 8:06 AM, PrinceGenocide said:

Ok then why didn't tlr just do that or is it temporary . Like u get to be a baby for 3 seconds and then age back ?

I think that's exactly what would happen. Seeing as TLR aged up pretty fast after Vin ripped his metalminds out. If you compounded atium like that you'd totally transform into a baby and age back really fast 

Honestly, I'm sad Atium isn't around anymore. I want to witness this happen in a book.