Val the Moofia Boss Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Briar King said: How is exp determined in this game cause I’m noticing it’s uneven. Not the set number of points with the less earned the higher character is. It’s kinda strange after 1&2 It's the same system as it has always been: the amount of exp a character earns scales in relation to the mob's level. If a character is underleveled compared to a mob, they gain a ton more exp. If a character is overleveled compared to a mob, they get a lot less exp. Hence, you can quickly get underleveled characters up to the required level with minimal grinding, and you are discouraged from trying to level grind any further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Briar King said: How is exp determined in this game cause I’m noticing it’s uneven. Not the set number of points with the less earned the higher character is. It’s kinda strange after 1&2 It should be exactly the same. The lower level you are compared to the enemy the more you get and vice versa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 It’s not doing the normal thing. It’s erratic one moment the lowest is getting the least then getting the highest then getting right in between. There’s something wonky going on enough for me to notice it today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 That's weird. I remember it being normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val the Moofia Boss Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 57 minutes ago, Briar King said: It’s not doing the normal thing. It’s erratic one moment the lowest is getting the least then getting the highest then getting right in between. There’s something wonky going on enough for me to notice it today. Are you talking about Rean not getting as much EXP as the students? I believe that's because for the segments where you can use Rean and New Class VII together, the mobs are higher levels than New Class VII but lower level than Rean, so Rean gets less EXP. In the segments where you can use Rean but not use New Class VII, the mobs are higher level than Rean, so Rean gains levels rapidly as usual, so by the time the next Rean + NC7 segment comes along, Rean is once again higher level than the students. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yeah Rean is always higher leveled than the students. The way the game is designed ensured that unless you go out of your way to grind, the students will never be equal level to him. Its actually really smart design to show that Rean is stronger than them and it makes Rean's reputation even more concrete 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val the Moofia Boss Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, aneonfoxtribute said: Yeah Rean is always higher leveled than the students. The way the game is designed ensured that unless you go out of your way to grind, the students will never be equal level to him. Its actually really smart design to show that Rean is stronger than them and it makes Rean's reputation even more concrete Eh, I felt that the gameplay difference was marginal. In gameplay, Rean only deals slightly more damage than the other characters. There is a dissonance in this series where characters are canonically way higher powerlevel than others in lore, like Zin > Agate >> Joshua >> Estelle, but in gameplay they pretty much deal the same damage. I would rather that the gameplay difference in powerlevel be huge, like how in Fire Emblem Fates, Xander and Ryoma were monsters who were dealing like triple damage than everyone else. You really felt that Xander and Ryoma were legit the greatest swordsmen of their age. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Well they do kind of do that with some temporary party members. Sara in CS1 and Arios in Azure, for instance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 CS3 ch 1 exp stuff the part with Millium, Altina and Rean in Enhell lvl 1. Altina was lowest character but at times she was getting the least exp pts. At times though several lvls lower she would tie with Rean with Millium coming out on top who was middle lvl wise. There was just no rhythm to it like I’ve been used to. I started wondering if they incorporated mechanics like most kills or something... gets more exp. I did wonder about M’s EX bit on MQ. The menu wouldn’t let me get in there and see what that stood for. Just trust me, it was strange to notice how off it all was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 That would be really weird and it isn't something I ever noticed. Maybe I'll pop open CS3 again and test it out to see because I am very curious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Going through Einhel Keep in a fresh file, and the characters are getting the right amount of experience. Rean got less and everyone else got the same amount. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 What lvls were they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 It was just at the start of the game, the first Einhel trial. So it was like 7/8 for Rean and then 5 for the students 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 I didn’t notice anything that time. It was the 2nd trip in that I saw it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 spoiler for size 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 How exactly do you equip this fishing gear? I’m buying it but haven’t seen where it is put on my rod. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) It's automatic, you don't have to do anything once you've obtained it. As far as experience goes, the game has a hidden weighting system that's designed to enforce New Class VII being slightly underleveled compared to everyone else. You'll note in that shot that Rean and Claire are getting the same amount of experience at the same level, while the NC7 members are getting appropriately weighted experience relative to each other. Edited February 17, 2021 by Weltall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 That makes since. I knew something was off from what I was used to. Wish I had taken pics before that as some of that stuff was really wonky looking. Whats EX mean? I don’t see an explanation on menu and this is the 2nd character to have it now. I’m so grinding and taking advantage of the extra firepower in this area. Trying to get some $ built up and slots unlocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Briar King said: That makes since. I knew something was off from what I was used to. Wish I had taken pics before that as some of that stuff was really wonky looking. Whats EX mean? I don’t see an explanation on menu and this is the 2nd character to have it now. I’m so grinding and taking advantage of the extra firepower in this area. Trying to get some $ built up and slots unlocked. What are you referring to specifically when you say EX 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar King Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Master Quartz with an EX added. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneonfoxtribute Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Briar King said: Master Quartz with an EX added. Oh that's just a temporary Quartz. Basically if it has EX, it's on a guest. I think it has a bit of a buff but I never checked Edited February 18, 2021 by aneonfoxtribute 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) EX Master Quartz are basically special ones locked to Guest characters. They can gain experience like normal but they can't be removed and don't get added to your inventory. It's basically a way of letting you see some MQ before they become available full-time or (in a couple cases) to see MQ that you're never going to get in CS3, usually at a slightly higher level than what you've got at the time. Trails of Azure (the game that introduced Master Quartz) had its own version of this in the Prologue where you had a pair of guests with Lv4 MQ while the others were at Lv1. Edited February 18, 2021 by Weltall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyBo Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 After bouncing off it 2-3 times, I finally played through and finished Trails in the Sky. Gonna start Trails SC tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eluvianii Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, NattyBo said: After bouncing off it 2-3 times, I finally played through and finished Trails in the Sky. Gonna start Trails SC tonight. Hope you enjoy the journey. In SC things get started a lot sooner than in FC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyBo Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Eluvianii said: Hope you enjoy the journey. In SC things get started a lot sooner than in FC. Yeah, not gonna lie, I love JRPGS, and dont mind a slow burn, but man, Trails 1 was the slowest of all burns. Thank goodness the character development kept me interested. I'm eager now having seen the end of part 1 to find out where this is all going. I'm still planning on working my way up to the crossbell PC fan translations, and then starting on Trails of Cold Steel. I already have Cold Steel 1 and 2 on my Vita, and 3 on Switch, will probably get 4 on Switch as well. I'd love to double dip and get all these on PC, but they really dont ever seem to go on deep sale! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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