Cosmernaut Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I was reading the more recent wob and someone asked if Hoid had a black haired counterpart. It was RAFO'd which I thought was pretty interesting, and this was something I never really considered. Is Hoid having a counterpart a common fan theory around here? If not, what do you guys think of the idea that there's an anti-Hoid out there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamor Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 My mind just exploded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I hadn't heard the theory before, myself. But please remember that RAFO can mean anything from "Oh that's a juicy secret" to "I want to see what happens when the fanbase gets ahold of this RAFO." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 What would an anti-Hoid do? Hoid is an observer he changes almost exclusively by observing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmernaut Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, RShara said: I hadn't heard the theory before, myself. But please remember that RAFO can mean anything from "Oh that's a juicy secret" to "I want to see what happens when the fanbase gets ahold of this RAFO." I'm aware but it sure is working. My mind is sort of racing wondering why he RAFO'd this. If his goal was "I want to see what happens when the fanbase gets ahold of this RAFO", then, at least for me, mission accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 That's probably just Sandman messing with us, like RShara said. "Hmmm, what would happen if I make them think there's a giant conspiracy around something completely fake?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmernaut Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Karger said: What would an anti-Hoid do? Hoid is an observer he changes almost exclusively by observing. Maybe everything Hoid does, except they're a bigger jerk about it. He probably calls himself Dioh (Brando). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmernaut Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Invocation said: That's probably just Sandman messing with us, like RShara said. "Hmmm, what would happen if I make them think there's a giant conspiracy around something completely fake?" Well, it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Cosmernaut said: Well, it's working. It always does. Especially when it's about Hoid or the as-yet-unnamed Shards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Well Hoid does dye his hair black while posing as Wit, though he is described or seen as white-haired elsewhere on Roshar (swimming out of the depths of the Horneater Ocean, jumping into the mouth of a greatshell, etc.). Maybe he's not dyeing the hair, it turns black under certain conditions when he reverses himself in some way! LOL. (No way.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Well there is the Hema-Hoid theory Quote Questioner If Hemalurgy can be used to transfer Investiture regardless of the planet, is someone gathering pieces of different Investitures the way Hoid got, for example, the Lerasium bead? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Warsaw signing (March 18, 2017) Don't know if that's really a "counterpart" though. Edited March 20, 2019 by Calderis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmereScholar Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I doubt there is anything to this. Here is the original quote: Quote Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] Is Hoid's hair color naturally white? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes, now. Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] Now? Does he have a counterpart who has black hair somewhere? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] RAFO. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/385-orem-signing/ It just think Sanderson meant that it was white now because of age, but not white always because he was not born with white hair. 4 minutes ago, Calderis said: Well there is the Hema-Hoid theory I believe this has been refuted. Quote Ruro272 (paraphrased) Does Hoid have a Hemalurgically charged Nicrosil spike? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It's... unlikely. Hoid would not want to open himself to the influence of Shards so using Hemalurgy on himself is unlikely. Although Hemalurgy is the easiest way to get other powers, he'd more likely do things the hard way. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/44-minicon-2015/#e656 #hoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man moomba Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cosmernaut said: Maybe everything Hoid does, except they're a bigger jerk about it. He probably calls himself Dioh (Brando). Is that a JoJo refrence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, CosmereScholar said: I believe this has been refuted. You misunderstood both me, and the WoB I posted. There is someone in the Cosmere who is collecting power like Hoid, via Hemalurgy. The "Hema-Hoid" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmereScholar Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Wow! I did misunderstand you. This is scary. Could this be a member of the Set, or a Ghostblood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookish Ocelot Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I feel like an opposite Hoid (Dioh, as i’ll now call him) would run around changing things and complementing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmernaut Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, Dr. Dapper said: Is that a JoJo refrence? yare yare daze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmernaut Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, BookishOcelot said: I feel like an opposite Hoid (Dioh, as i’ll now call him) would run around changing things and complementing people. A polite monster. Like Hannibal Lecter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man moomba Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hoid with a Stand. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Cosmernaut said: Maybe everything Hoid does, except they're a bigger jerk about it. He probably calls himself Dioh (Brando). If this means we get an animated series about Hoid's mirror universe twin (does he have a goatee? That's always a giveaway) and Dioh is voiced by Takehito Koyasu, I'm all for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ryshadium Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 6:23 PM, Calderis said: Well there is the Hema-Hoid theory Don't know if that's really a "counterpart" though. If that's true, I would think he must have started after Ati's death. I sure wouldn't want that guy controlling me. I can totally imagine this guy becoming best friends with Sazed though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidolas Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 hours ago, The Ryshadium said: If that's true, I would think he must have started after Ati's death. I sure wouldn't want that guy controlling me. I can totally imagine this guy becoming best friends with Sazed though! Could it be Marsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ryshadium Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lidolas said: Could it be Marsh? Wow, I didn't even consider that! Imagine Marsh getting all of the other magic systems spiked into him. He kind of has nothing to lose. Harmony can already control him, so he might as well become one of the most powerful non-shards in the Cosmere......For some reason, the thought of Marsh lightweaving strikes me as completely ridiculous. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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