The Chat Thread

[Ashbringer he/him]

27 minutes ago, Fatebreaker said:

Well if anyone wants to get the reference and watch a truly bizarre music video, search Total Eclipse of the Heart by Bonnie Tyler.

It's... something

... wow. Yes, something it is 0.o

Not a bad song though! I randomly found Jar of Hearts again after... ten something years.

[+ZincAboutIt she/her]

35 minutes ago, Fatebreaker said:

Well if anyone wants to get the reference and watch a truly bizarre music video, search Total Eclipse of the Heart by Bonnie Tyler.

It's... something

It sure is XD

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

hey guys I just came up with a motive for the STE, they want to add to the Alleyverse, bringing the Cytoverse in. maybe a side goal would be to learn more about how the alley verse was created? 

STE has a few other things they want to do though.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

hey guys I just came up with a motive for the STE, they want to add to the Alleyverse, bringing the Cytoverse in. maybe a side goal would be to learn more about how the alley verse was created? 

STE has a few other things they want to do though.

STE technically already has some Cytoverse connections. At least, it's an option in Character Creation, and something I'm thinking of "uncovering" in Byron for the turn of the Era.

However, I can't think of a character I've seen who actually fully leans into the Cytoverse, so it's definitely something a group could try to connect more strongly.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, Ashbringer said:

STE technically already has some Cytoverse connections. At least, it's an option in Character Creation, and something I'm thinking of "uncovering" in Byron for the turn of the Era.

However, I can't think of a character I've seen who actually fully leans into the Cytoverse, so it's definitely something a group could try to connect more strongly.

maybe try to get spaceships into the alley verse.

[Voidus]

14 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

maybe try to get spaceships into the alley verse.

Spaceships have proudly been a part of the Alleyverse since I think before the cytoverse even existed. They nuked the city that one time.

[Ashbringer he/him]

This does tie into something I'm wondering if has been a character previously... has anyone been a Fused? I'm tempted to try an adapt a Deepest One as a character, or give my budding DA agent a similar ability. But Deepest Ones are... quite different than just a Cohesion spike.

[18th Shard he/him]

I don't think we've ever had a Fused since I've been active. I'd think there should be a base Fused point value for the healing and potential reincarnation, and then an additional cost based on the Surge (similar to a surge fabrial), but I'm no mod. 

Also, I think we have had FTL Cytonic mentioned pre-Era 1 in the Alleyverse. Which means they predate the Cytoverse and came only from Defending Elysium. 

Edited March 19, 2022 by 18th Shard

[Voidus]

Yeah we should probably add Fused to the Index at some point.

[MacThorstenson he/him]

1 hour ago, Voidus said:

Yeah we should probably add Fused to the Index at some point.

Yayyyyyyy... . . . 

Nothings more fun then updating the index...

[Ashbringer he/him]

11 minutes ago, MacThorstenson said:

Yayyyyyyy... . . . 

Nothings more fun then updating the index...

Sleepless should still be 45 points post-Dawnshard, right? 

Edited March 19, 2022 by Ashbringer

[MacThorstenson he/him]

Just now, Ashbringer said:

Sleepless should still be 45 points post-Dawnshard, right? 

yeah considering theres a canon cap on the amount of sleepless there are, its likely they just wouludnt be allowed to exist.

[Ashbringer he/him]

9 minutes ago, MacThorstenson said:

yeah considering theres a canon cap on the amount of sleepless there are, its likely they just wouludnt be allowed to exist.

There's a canon cap on Roshar. We don't know about other places 

But yeah those things could use some limitations. 

[mathiau he/him]

9 hours ago, Voidus said:

Spaceships have proudly been a part of the Alleyverse since I think before the cytoverse even existed. They nuked the city that one time.

Not in the Forged world though

6 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

This does tie into something I'm wondering if has been a character previously... has anyone been a Fused? I'm tempted to try an adapt a Deepest One as a character, or give my budding DA agent a similar ability. But Deepest Ones are... quite different than just a Cohesion spike.

I don't think they're actually that different, while we've only seen Venli use Cohesion on other things there's no reason to think she can't use it on herself and phase through things.

It might be a Savant ability though, with "never being truly solid again" as its savant affliction

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

11 hours ago, Voidus said:

Spaceships have proudly been a part of the Alleyverse since I think before the cytoverse even existed. They nuked the city that one time.

okie Voidus. but the STE would want to integrate the Taynix into it and such. also travel through the nowhere.

[+ZincAboutIt she/her]

14 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

okie Voidus. but the STE would want to integrate the Taynix into it and such. also travel through the nowhere.

Fwiw we don’t usually do too much Sanderson plot canon here. I haven’t actually read any of the Skyward books but bringing canon book characters or key plot elements into the AV is generally not done because it starts to get thorny with the established book canon. Just a heads up for any of your plans! :]

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, ZincAboutIt said:

Fwiw we don’t usually do too much Sanderson plot canon here. I haven’t actually read any of the Skyward books but bringing canon book characters or key plot elements into the AV is generally not done because it starts to get thorny with the established book canon. Just a heads up for any of your plans! :]

okie, *sighs* ah well. does the alley verse have its own magic system?

[+ZincAboutIt she/her]

Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

okie, *sighs* ah well. does the alley verse have its own magic system?

So it does, but also you’re free to bring in outside magic systems. I just mean like you would find it difficult to bring in, say, a Shard or someone like Dalinar Kholin or Kelsier, or something like that. People seem to be excited about linking the Cytoverse up with the AV and that’s awesome I am just giving you a heads up on how new stuff is generally brought in.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

1 minute ago, ZincAboutIt said:

So it does, but also you’re free to bring in outside magic systems. I just mean like you would find it difficult to bring in, say, a Shard or someone like Dalinar Kholin or Kelsier, or something like that. People seem to be excited about linking the Cytoverse up with the AV and that’s awesome I am just giving you a heads up on how new stuff is generally brought in.

mkay! is the magic system of the AV defined?

[Arlin]

It is kinda breaking my head a little trying to imagine how many layers of dimensional travel it would be in order to get from the Alleyverse to Nowhere and back.

there are some already established ones, Alleymatics, Voidshaping, and Alley travel. All of them are pretty natively DA though.

[+ZincAboutIt she/her]

2 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

mkay! is the magic system of the AV defined?

Yeah, the innate magic of the AV is generally used by members of the DA because they created the world, but also because the magic usually only works inside the Alleys, with the exception of Voidmaking or something rather minor like Alleycant (the pen-twirling language - don’t ask just roll with it). 

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

3 minutes ago, Arlin said:

It is kinda breaking my head a little trying to imagine how many layers of dimensional travel it would be in order to get from the Alleyverse to Nowhere and back.

there are some already established ones, Alleymatics, Voidshaping, and Alley travel. All of them are pretty natively DA though.

yeah, the travel would take at least a year or two. 

Just now, ZincAboutIt said:

Yeah, the innate magic of the AV is generally used by members of the DA because they created the world, but also because the magic usually only works inside the Alleys, with the exception of Voidmaking or something rather minor like Alleycant (the pen-twirling language - don’t ask just roll with it). 

mkay. so are the alleys a specific place? like are the alleys the place inbetween the alley verse and the other places or what?

[+ZincAboutIt she/her]

Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

mkay. so are the alleys a specific place? like are the alleys the place inbetween the alley verse and the other places or what?

The Alleys are kind of like a universe stuffed into a city. You can enter them usually by entering most alleys in the city, but at the end you sort of wander into… a place-between-places. The sky changes into a boiling void, and you can meet literally anything in them especially if you don’t know where you’re going. They are navigable by either walking through them or by Alleytravel which is kind of like semi-teleportation, you kind of weave yourself a special, shorter pathway towards the location you want to arrive at. It’s very dangerous unless you know how to do it or you have someone guiding you through it. 

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, ZincAboutIt said:

The Alleys are kind of like a universe stuffed into a city. You can enter them usually by entering most alleys in the city, but at the end you sort of wander into… a place-between-places. The sky changes into a boiling void, and you can meet literally anything in them especially if you don’t know where you’re going. They are navigable by either walking through them or by Alleytravel which is kind of like semi-teleportation, you kind of weave yourself a special, shorter pathway towards the location you want to arrive at. It’s very dangerous unless you know how to do it or you have someone guiding you through it. 

that gives me an AWESOME idea for STE. what if STE was trying to make the Alleys safer so that you can travel through them faster and better. but STE also would put tariffs and the like the get through their faster way. would that potentially work?

[Arlin]

Good luck trying to encroach on the DA's turf. It would be a fun plot to see happen anyhow.