The Chat Thread

[Snipexe he/him]

the ways of mods are great and unknowable

[Voidus]

3 minutes ago, Darth Ookla said:

*wonders why mod misspelled intently*

You assume that I was trying to spell intently.

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

The ways of the shard are great and unknowable.

1 hour ago, Darth Ookla said:

Just to recap the arguments for voters:

Pro Sci-Fi

It adds enjoyment to the shard for some and can be controlled. The Precursors will stay out of space as according to the following suggestion: Covenant and UNSC weapons, banshees, scorpions, warthogs, mantises, ghosts, 1 scarab, seraphs, the species, the flood, and the spartan 2 process, as well as the armor. I will stay out of space, and the weapons aren't even that more useful. I will make it that the Seraphs and the banshees can't go into space, and I'll up the price of the Mjolnir armor, so peusudo shardplate isn't commonly acquirable.

The only covenant weapon that is actually more powerful than it's human equivalent, is the energy sword, which has the counterpart of a sword. Those need to have a replaceable power cell, because they can only hit something 10 times, and EMPs knock out all the ones not powered of investiture. Thel is has the only exception to that rule, and he is pretty much a knights radiant, if all of the left over investiture was put into a thug. Essentially, if someone has a carbine and says that it shoots straight through your armor, 1. It doesn't, 2. Bring me in to set them straight. Sniper rifles are the only exception to the power limit, and how are they going to whip out a beam rifle, and get a accurate hit on a moving target, in the middle of a duel?

What the Precorsor would actually have: Covenant and UNSC weapons, banshees, scorpions, warthogs, mantises, ghosts, 1 scarab, seraphs, the species, the flood, and the spartan 2 process, as well as the armor, and small UNSC ships that are made to function as submarines.

Anti Sci-Fi(All that aren't qoutes come from @Ookla the Lurker

Regardless of how the information is disseminated, introducing something that isn't widely known is going to cause issues and potentially confuse or slow down the RP. Then there's also the questions that have no clear answer.
Could a Needler penetrate Shardplate?
An Energy sword?
What would happen if a Shardblade tried to block an energy sword?
etc.

I'm not opposed to technology (Technology is SCIENCE after all). But when space ships, fleets and armadas get involved it makes things a bit awkward.
It's a whole different scale of story, and I think it's definitely likely to create three things that multiple people have mentioned they want less of:
Power creep, armies and PvP.

To sum up what I see as the main arguments from the con side:

-Sci fi leads to space opera which is of an entirely different scale to what the Alleyverse focuses on, this can minimize and draw attention from other plots.
-Sci fi leads to armies, which people have expressed concerns about
- Sci fi requires vast resources and power, which people have expressed concerns about.
- Sci fi technology tends to be on a power level that's higher than what people want in the Alleyverse.
- Thematically it doesn't match most of Brandons works which make up the base of the Alleyverse.

And some from me personally:
- Sci fi as a genre usually tells different stories, this would create radically different stories within the RP and might derail or spoil stories that are started with a more traditional fantasy element in mind.
- Technology can be acquired by anyone so adding technology into the Alleyverse means potential issues with making magic based characters even more powerful.
- It seems likely that this would lead to an arms race, power creep, scope creep and increased PvP (Almost all sci fi elements that people have introduced have been combat based in nature)

Bringing it to a new page.

Just now, Ookla the Lurker said:

You assume that I was trying to spell intently.

[old man moomba he/him]

*eats garlic and chicken pizza*

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

*euhh*

[Gancho Libre he/him]

*yum!*

[Silva]

*is grateful she keeps kosher*

[whattheHoid she/her]

*yum, grabs a cookie!*

[old man moomba he/him]

But there were none left. There was only salsa.

[Gancho Libre he/him]

And Mayo.

[whattheHoid she/her]

At least it wasn't Miracle Whip!

[Gancho Libre he/him]

Thank goodness for that.

[Voidus]

Results of the poll:
Should we include sci-fi elements in the Alleyverse? : No (9-yes, 12-no)
Should we allow power creep in the Alleyverse? : No (5-yes, 16-no)
Should people accept the DAs cookies in the Alleyverse? : Absolutely! DA Cookies are amazing (14-Yes of course, 110-Absolutely! DA cookies are amazing, 7-No I'm a crazy person who hates cookies)

If anyone wants to change their vote let me know, otherwise I'll close the poll for now.

[Kidpen he/him]

Question. Should I give up on WoD? At this point I can't trust myself to ever get it going, and I don't wanna hold anyone who wants to get involved elsewhere.

Voidus, don't close it for a sec, I wanna see the discussion for the last few pages.

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

DAMNATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Edited December 4, 2018 by Darth Ookla

[xinoehp512 he/him]

If we end WoD, then what will the main plot be?

Maybe I could give someone a prophecy of the upcoming era change.

[+Ark1002]

1 minute ago, Ookla the Phoenix said:

If we end WoD, then what will the main plot be?

Maybe I could give someone a prophecy of the upcoming era change.

*Regrets Hellbent not being given an Alleyshard*

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

Well, now for plan B. Thel is an epic, and the Precursors are a reckonerverse guild with some interesting motivators.

[Silva]

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Phoenix said:

If we end WoD, then what will the main plot be?

At this point at least, WoD isn't even really being used which is why Kidpen brought this up. Most people are either involved with the other side of the world or Solace. 

Maybe don't give up on it, just try to wrap it up and give it a sufficient conclusion whether or not that involves releasing Voidus.

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

Well, maybe don't release Voidus.

[Voidus]

There's about 4 competing things that could release him right now, WoD was one of them but any of the other 3 could still happen. WoD was probably the most potentially dramatic though so if at all possible that's still my preference.
As with the first era though he's not going to be intervening with anything much unless people openly try to attack him.
Except for maybe murdering Mace a few dozen times.

[Archer he/him]

*hides pineapple catapult behind my back* Now why would you want to do a thing like that? 

[Voidus]

2 hours ago, Ookla the Paragon said:

*hides pineapple catapult behind my back* Now why would you want to do a thing like that? 

You know what you did.

Never forgive, never forget.

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

So, the precursors are now a law enforcement, and peacekeeping militia primarily from a unstable Reckonverse planet, with some epics on it, but much less powerful than before. If you get mad at me for my 50 regiments, before I changed I had 500, and then 200. Now all I have is 10,000 soldiers to police the entire planet. I think that is lower than I should have, and we will be growing, but I will use a rather conservative growth calculator for our growth.

[old man moomba he/him]

But do we really need police. And, what laws are you enforcing?