NiceBleach Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Is there some sort of significance to the fact that the prologue to Way of Kings takes place from Kalak's point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, NiceBleach said: Is there some sort of significance to the fact that the prologue to Way of Kings takes place from Kalak's point of view? The significance of the prelude being Kalak's PoV is probably just the fact that he was the last Herald to get to their meeting spot. It could also be because he didn't want to showcase any of the other Heralds because he wanted to save them for later. Like, Taln and Shalash are getting flashback books later, so it couldn't have been them. Jezrien was already at the meeting place, so it couldn't be him. I just think it was Kalak's PoV so that Brandon could keep the specifics of that meeting between the other Heralds a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceBleach Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, StrikerEZ said: The significance of the prelude being Kalak's PoV is probably just the fact that he was the last Herald to get to their meeting spot. It could also be because he didn't want to showcase any of the other Heralds because he wanted to save them for later. Like, Taln and Shalash are getting flashback books later, so it couldn't have been them. Jezrien was already at the meeting place, so it couldn't be him. I just think it was Kalak's PoV so that Brandon could keep the specifics of that meeting between the other Heralds a secret. Makes sense. If that's the case, then whenever we meet up with Kalak again, something really cool will probably happen. Maybe he'll drop some knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NiceBleach said: Makes sense. If that's the case, then whenever we meet up with Kalak again, something really cool will probably happen. Maybe he'll drop some knowledge. Kalak is one of my favorite Heralds. Mostly because he's the Willshaper one and I want to see more of that order because their combination of surges and the little bit we know of them as an order seems so cool to me. So I'm very excited to see more of him. Edited July 17, 2018 by StrikerEZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Investor Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Kalak is suspected of being one of the two diplomat Jasnah sees during the assassination of Gavilar, the other being Nale. So you can maybe see a little of him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Wandering Investor said: Kalak is suspected of being one of the two diplomat Jasnah sees during the assassination of Gavilar, the other being Nale. So you can maybe see a little of him there. Oh yeah, I know. That's another part of why I find him so interesting. He seems like such a fun character in that little bit we got to see of him besides the prelude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceBleach Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I wonder where he is. My guess is that one herald went to each Epoch Kingdom (or Silver Kingdom), excluding Aimia, although I don't think this is the case because Shalash has been moving around killing paintings. In the interlude in which we are introduced to Shalash killing a bunch of paintings, she was in Emul, which would have been a part of Each herald probably went to one of the Epoch Kingdoms following Aharietiam. Just because they went to a kingdom doesn't mean they stayed there. It would make sense for the heralds to stay in their separate Kingdoms for a while after Aharietiam in order to maintain the ruse that they ascended to the tranquiline halls to "continue the fight there." Jeziren probably went to Alethela, as that is where he was at least from Dalinar's alcoholism to his (Jeziren's) death. Nale might have gone to Shin Kak Nish, although I have nothing which proves or disproves that theory, beyond Nale and the Shin both seeming like they know a good deal more than the rest of the world. Really, idk where he went Chanarach. I have no clue. Vedel. Idk. If she was, like her Radiant counterparts, keen on "Remembering those who have been forgotten," she might have gone to Rishir, as the Reshi Isles were a part of Rishir, and the Reshi Isles seem like a rural, forgotten holiday destination sort of place. Pailiah. No clue. Shalash was recently spotted in Emul, but if she's been going on her crusade to kill all paintings of her (and I guess that she's had at least 1000 years to do so), she might have completed her crusade in what was Sela Tales or something and moved on to another country. Basically, idk. Battar has been in Kharbranth, so that would be Thalath. Kalak. To support my theory that there is some connection between the Unkalaki and Kalak, I would guess that Kalak went to Valhav, which is the location of the Horneater peaks. Talenel. Braize. Ishar. He's (been) in Tukar, so Makabakam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Investor Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 The heralds separating out to different countries would make sense, but there are some problems with it. First is during the WoK prologue, there was no discussion of where to go, only that it was separate from the others. Now that doesn't discount it, as it could have been a mutual understanding of stick to your territories, but something to note. The second and larger issue is that Nale and Shalash move around. Shalash destroyed a statue in Alethkar, and several other countries. Nale was shown to have several safe-houses between the pure lake and where ever it was they were going, but definitely in different nation territories, and presumably has many scattered through all the territories. So at least some of the Heralds don't seem confined by borders. This doesn't exclude that some Heralds might have a homebase and just stick there, but I don't think it will be as clean as, one in each of the silver kingdoms excluding Aimia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 I think we saw it from Kalak because Kalaks brokeness is pretty straight-forward: he seems to have some kind of PTSD. Brandon could have picked any Herald to arrive last, but he chose Kalak for a reason. I feel like it is because he felt that Kalaks psychology would be the easiest way to show how bad the Heralds were feeling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvisual Haze Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 11:09 AM, Toaster Retribution said: I think we saw it from Kalak because Kalaks brokeness is pretty straight-forward: he seems to have some kind of PTSD. Brandon could have picked any Herald to arrive last, but he chose Kalak for a reason. I feel like it is because he felt that Kalaks psychology would be the easiest way to show how bad the Heralds were feeling. I'd say he's general anxiety. He seems afraid and nervous of everything. Taln seems our PTSD example. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Subvisual Haze said: I'd say he's general anxiety. He seems afraid and nervous of everything. Taln seems our PTSD example. I stand corrected. I wouldn’t be surprised if all Heralds had some form of PTSD though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sorana Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said: I stand corrected. I wouldn’t be surprised if all Heralds had some form of PTSD though. I think so too. And we know that all heralds are crazy, imo a direct consequence of their torture. Edited July 21, 2018 by Sorana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 14 hours ago, Sorana said: I think so too. And we know that all heralds are crazy, imo a direct consequence of their torture. And then there's the matter of his breath. 4500 years later, people still talk about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 If the "Unmade are Heralds" theory is correct, Kalak corresponds to Yelig-nar, and his form of madness is specifically a lack of willpower (as Yelig-nar engages its host in a battle of wills to determine if they're consumed). Also fits with him being the patron of the Willshapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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