Ryshadium she/her Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 That's really neat. It gives me a much better perspective on what is going on. Spatial relations were never my thing. Can we use this to create longitudinal lines on a "globe" vs the flat map? Does it matter?
Arook he/him Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I zoomed in on the signature. There is a symbol next to it... That same symbol is the one on the sword forms or at least it looks close.
Harakeke Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Here's the map with the numbers properly spaced. 5
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) So New Nanatanan is right near the Prime Meridian? We can call it Greenwich from now on. Edited March 18, 2014 by Ryshadium
Argent he/him Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Okay, I don't think the compasses are important anymore. The coordinates (in (longitude, latitude) form) of the ones we see here, assuming the very bottom of the map sits on latitude of about 10° (eye estimate based on how far away I suspect the south pole is), are: (0, 20), (0, 55) (11, 50) (20, 40) (30, 30) The one on (11,50) is incredibly annoying, by the way.
RShara she/her Posted March 18, 2014 Author Posted March 18, 2014 One is almost certainly a traitor to the others! 1
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Wouldn't lower on the map mean a higher latitude number since we're in the southern hemisphere? Or am I losing my mind?
Confused Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I'm going to propose something preposterous that I posted on another thread about the Dawnshards (which are, in all likelihood, splinters of Adonalsium). Rather than the Rosharian super-continent being a dragon, I suggest it is a giant greatshell (just like the Reshi Islands are greatshells). WoB is that one of the Dawnshards is unique. Not being an astronomer, it seems odd to me that a planet should have so relatively little land mass. And if the continent were alive, it would explain why the continent seems to have moved in circles, as if the continent were slowly turning around. Roshar is dominated by crustacean lifeforms, presumably the original lifeforms that spawned from the original Adonalsium splinters. Others have noted that the crustaceans probably pre-date the arrival of Honor and Cultivation. Perhaps Roshar is one of the largest Adonalsium splinters, which might explain how Honor bound Odium to the Rosharian planetary system. Speculation piled on speculation...Just saying! 11
Argent he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Wouldn't lower on the map mean a higher latitude number since we're in the southern hemisphere? Or am I losing my mind? Geography was never my strongest subject... 1
Scriptorian he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Perhaps the big thing we are missing is just that we've already discovered everything...My head hurts from just looking at these maps for a few minutes.
Gyth he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Just seeing those beautiful Spheres of Roshar was worth staring at these maps for days. ^.^ 1
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Geography was never my strongest subject... You can join me at the back of the class.
Maresia he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I'm going to propose something preposterous that I posted on another thread about the Dawnshards (which are, in all likelihood, splinters of Adonalsium). Rather than the Rosharian super-continent being a dragon, I suggest it is a giant greatshell (just like the Reshi Islands are greatshells). WoB is that one of the Dawnshards is unique. Not being an astronomer, it seems odd to me that a planet should have so relatively little land mass. And if the continent were alive, it would explain why the continent seems to have moved in circles, as if the continent were slowly turning around. Roshar is dominated by crustacean lifeforms, presumably the original lifeforms that spawned from the original Adonalsium splinters. Others have noted that the crustaceans probably pre-date the arrival of Honor and Cultivation. Perhaps Roshar is one of the largest Adonalsium splinters, which might explain how Honor bound Odium to the Rosharian planetary system. Speculation piled on speculation...Just saying! thats a good one, also i dont remember where, but Brandon said that mountains weren't originated by tectonic plates. So thats a good theory. Edited March 19, 2014 by Maresia
Mistdork she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I need better tools to map out the longitude lines and some math (or I could print it, but no)...it actually really annoys me that we have their prime meridian, since I'm not sure how big the oceans are I wouldn't quite know when to stop counting, though a part of me thinks that it must go up to 160 (or 80) just for kicks (if I bent the map in half though the midpoint should be about at Fu Namir, how random). It almost seems like he did this to keep us occupied for awhile or some such thing...
thejopen27 he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I always thought it looked like two hurricanes crashing into each other which makes sense know that we know about the two highstorms crashing into each other. Also Urithiru also appears to be at the origin of two storms spiraling out from the center
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I need better tools to map out the longitude lines and some math (or I could print it, but no)...it actually really annoys me that we have their prime meridian, since I'm not sure how big the oceans are I wouldn't quite know when to stop counting, though a part of me thinks that it must go up to 160 (or 80) just for kicks (if I bent the map in half though the midpoint should be about at Fu Namir, how random). It almost seems like he did this to keep us occupied for awhile or some such thing... You should be able to extrapolate the distance between longitude lines right? We have 3 I think? Or does the spherical shape make that hard and that's why you're cranky about this? *i say you as if it's the easiest thing ever when on fact I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about so deepest apologies.
RShara she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 I'm trying that but I can't get the Frostlands map to line up perfectly to the Roshar map...
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Could you use two different geographical points to determine it? Or estimate? The different lines hit different recognizable points on the frost lands map, you could use those as reference points?
RShara she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 I'm overlaying the images in PS, and the edges just don't fit quite right, so I'm going to have to average it out.
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Is that because of what peter mentioned earlier? One is a map from a round world perspective and one is a flat, smaller and flattened section? Apologies I'm trying to understand how this works so I can potentially assist in the future. Thanks!
RShara she/her Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 I have no idea why. It's not quite different enough to be because of round vs flat. More like someone stretched one in a few areas, and compressed in others. So one is slightly less accurate. Anyway, this is the best I can do, until someone smarter with proper tools comes along And don't even ask me to number those longitudes, my brain shut down already!
TraSor Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Anyone else notice the eye shape of Shinovar and that the unclaimed hills appears to be it's opposite. Fold over? or possibly an entrance and exit wound?
Harakeke Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 The full-color map seems to be the same basic projection as the sepia map -- except painted on a vaulted ceiling. e.g.: The level of shared precision makes me wonder if the artists have a full-on Rosharan GIS behind the scenes... One of these days, I'd like to throw the high-res images into ArcMap and see how they look when georectified. That southern hemisphere map's been bugging me for a while -- it's reminiscent of the Robinson pseudocylindrical projection -- except I think that would make Roshar weirdly hourglass-shaped. Which I suppose would support Confused's Greatshell Hypothesis... 2
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