Swimmingly Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Dragonsteel, a planned 6 book series, plus the final Mistborn trilogy, of which Hoid will be a main character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Hoid will also get a role in Stormlight each book i think. He has a bigger presence in the SA than any other Cosmere books I've read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffreyH Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yeah the way I understood it, Dragonsteel will show Hoids origins, to a degree. But Brandon has said stormlight won't be a big part of the cosmere plot. It does have more to do with it than most of his other cosmere works it seems, but I think brandon said that he wanted Stormlight to have its own complete plot. Which means even more cosmere oriented series to come! Which most likely means more of Hoid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areign Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't remember where but i heard a quote from Sandersonw here he said Hoid wouldn't be involved as a major character 'until' Mistborn 7-9. I put 'until' in quotes because hes Supposed to be involved in his origin story: (which actually isn't Dragonsteel) The Liar of Partinel as well as the story about the shattering: Dragonsteel. Although he's been more involved on Roshar than in other worlds thus far, i still feel that he is skittering along the line of non-intervention. my interpretation of what Sanderson said was that Hoid was likely involved on the events on Yolen in those two series and then theres a long period of non-intervention until Mistborn 7-9 where he is an important character again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howl of the Sun Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) I don't doubt Hoid's Feruchemical abilities at all, but can anyone point me in the direction of where the evidence to support that is? I just can't recall off the top of my head. Edit: Also, I remember reading in one of the Mistborns that Hemuralgy was of great interest to the Cosmere. Maybe he made a tiny spike out of the bead? Edited March 18, 2014 by WeiryWriter Please do not double post, use the Edit function Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayv Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Could a lerasium spike steal another persons Sdna? Has this been asked? Most likely it would be RAFOd but still interesting. What if the spike, being of preservation, instead of stealing, just copies? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't doubt Hoid's Feruchemical abilities at all, but can anyone point me in the direction of where the evidence to support that is? I just can't recall off the top of my head. Edit: Also, I remember reading in one of the Mistborns that Hemuralgy was of great interest to the Cosmere. Maybe he made a tiny spike out of the bead? It is WoB: Mike Cockrum Hoid is regularly around when important events take place. How does he know where to go? Brandon Sanderson He uses Feruchemy. Part of it that will show up in later books. (source) Could a lerasium spike steal another persons Sdna? Has this been asked? Most likely it would be RAFOd but still interesting. What if the spike, being of preservation, instead of stealing, just copies? Stealing sDNA is essentially what all Hemalurgy does. I believe Brandon has RAFO'd the questions pertaining to lerasium's other uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I'm reasonably sure that Hoid could shave off a piece of Lerasium and eat it for weaker mistborn powers, and then use the rest of it as maybe a tiny little spike as well as a feruchemical metalmind. I'm just wondering if he hasn't found some way to duplicate the effect it has using Investure from other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roarsach Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Q&A from DC: Q: What alloy did Hoid drink? A: He wanted to make people act in the way he wanted them to Edited March 22, 2014 by Roarsach 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 AGH SORRY ROARSACH. Accidental downvote. I hate my phone. Also, very interesting that he used brass or zinc, I thought he might have used bronze to detect shallan's lightweaving/stormlight retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Feesh Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Roarsach, on 22 Mar 2014 - 09:14 AM, said: Q&A from DC: Q: What alloy did Hoid drink? A: He wanted to make people act in the way he wanted them to So we're looking at Soothing or Rioting; I'm guessing Soothing from what I remember of the scene. Or some other weird esoteric alloy we've never seen. Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 387973120 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 447097136 bytes) in Unknown on line 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roarsach Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 AGH SORRY ROARSACH. Accidental downvote. I hate my phone. Also, very interesting that he used brass or zinc, I thought he might have used bronze to detect shallan's lightweaving/stormlight retention. np i was thinking the same. Its very interesting that he could ether sooth or riot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I wonder if he uses it when being Wit to make people react the way he wants them to? The best comedian is one who uses magic to make you amused/less murderous after being insulted, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutiketAiel Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I wonder if he uses it when being Wit to make people react the way he wants them to? The best comedian is one who uses magic to make you amused/less murderous after being insulted, after all. I would say the best comedian is one who doesn't need magic to evoke the desired responses. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHoliday Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 The letter seems to imply that he has hidden the lerasium not burned it. On the contrary it says he guards it like his own skin. I interpret this as his body, implying he ingested it. I always assumed he used it to grant Feruchemy, but he evidently is Soothing Lan in WoR... I didn't miss that! That had me speculating for a while!! It might be a lightweaving quirk: Shallan has to draw what she light weaves? I believe Hoid has a method using sand perhaps?? But I can't imagine him drinking sand even he's not that strange haha Brandon stated that Hoid is the most powerful character except for shard/ sliver. Hoids abilities: -Lightweaving from yolen. This allows him to create images of anything he likes, and even possibly change how he looks to others. -Worldhopping Hoid is very good at manipulating Shadesmar. He can travel to any world he likes, and can even use this ability to move swiftly around a single planet and to get to otherwise inaccessible areas, like the Well of Ascension. -Feruchemy - Hoid also has access to at least one of the Three Metallic Arts native to Scadrial. -Limited foresight - Hoid knows where he needs to go and when he needs to be there. Feruchemy is somehow involved in this ability. -Extremely long life and time dilation. Hoid is far older then any human could really live, and he also hasn't lived through all those years. He can move swiftly forward in time, but has not yet traveled backwards in time. -Awakening - Hoid likely has a Breath, something that a scene in Words of Radiance seems to confirm, as he mentions how playing an instrument was easier now with 'perfect pitch' - something granted to those with the Second Heightening. But i think what he put in his drink helps him live longer This is all I have unfortunately. You forgot that he has Talendel's Honorblade, so tag Stormlight use, Tension, and Cohesion Surges. I don't doubt Hoid's Feruchemical abilities at all, but can anyone point me in the direction of where the evidence to support that is? I just can't recall off the top of my head. Edit: Also, I remember reading in one of the Mistborns that Hemuralgy was of great interest to the Cosmere. Maybe he made a tiny spike out of the bead? Weiry ninja! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnaMai Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 So we're looking at Soothing or Rioting; I'm guessing Soothing from what I remember of the scene. Or some other weird esoteric alloy we've never seen. Q: What alloy did Hoid drink? A: He wanted to make people act in the way he wanted them to Interesting. I thought he was burning Tin as Hoid is up on a tree limb outside Shallan's carriage but can quote back to Shallan what her brother said: "Your father is slowly destroying your family," the messenger said. "Your brother was right on that count. He was wrong about everything else." - WoR end of chapter 45 Middlefest Either way, allomancy and feruchemy are both proven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 There is another option. He had a mistborn metal melange, so he could use anything without much trouble. He then burnt all of the above, and Brandon simply omitted info without lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trendkill Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 WoB denies that Hoid has an Honorblade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Feesh Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Actually it denies Hoid SWAPPED the blades. Important distinction. I have a feeling he doesn't have it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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