Popular Post Shardfan13 Posted March 14, 2014 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2014 Hey, first time post apologies if I've erred in any way. Just finished WOR, probably my favourite of Sanderson's work so far! Was just wondering about the following and whether anyone has any theories etc Page 728 - Wit said. "I will tell you one, to get you in the mood. A Bunny rabbit and a chick went frolicking in the grass together on a sunny day". Obviously Kaladin has no idea what Hoid is talking about. My question is whether there has ever been mention of these particular animals in the cosmere? 23
The Count he/him Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) I think this was meant to be a part troll to the reader by Brandon. I mean the next line by Wit is about the funniest in the book (IMO). So Wit / Hoid broke the fourth wall a bit to demonstrate his transcendence of Rosharan issues and made the readers laugh. I do not read too much in to it personally. Still Welcome to the forums, have a +1 to celebrate! Edited March 14, 2014 by The Count 1
Bramble Thorn Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Hey, first time post apologies if I've erred in any way. Just finished WOR, probably my favourite of Sanderson's work so far! Was just wondering about the following and whether anyone has any theories etc Page 728 - Wit said. "I will tell you one, to get you in the mood. A Bunny rabbit and a chick went frolicking in the grass together on a sunny day". Obviously Kaladin has no idea what Hoid is talking about. My question is whether there has ever been mention of these particular animals in the cosmere? I was trying to find an existing aesop Wit was referencing when I first read it also. I have head the tortoice and the hare, the turtle and the scorpion, lion the mouse. But no rabbit and chick. Welcome to the forums anyway. Have another rep.
Wyrmhero he/him Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) I believe that Shinovar has chickens, and therefore presumably rabbits as well. I think Hoid used them because 'An axehound pup and a cremling larva went froclicking in the grass together on a sunny day' doesn't quite have the same ring to it Edited March 14, 2014 by Wyrmhero 4
Aminar Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 It can be reasonably assumed that the planet of human origin(where Hoid is from) has similar biological fauna to earth.
Shards of Mist he/him Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Well, given that Shin has animals you would expect on a human world, maybe the anatomy of Rosharan wildlife changed due to the highstorms in order to survive. It could be that the disgusting slime and the crab-like thing with 17 legs used to be the bunny rabbit and the chick. 1
Aminar Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Roshar developed as it is. Axehounds were never dogs. Chickens seem to have come with the human settlers, along with horses and a few other animals. Of note, at least one Chicken seems to be a parrot... 1
Awesomeness Summoned he/him Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) Brandon said at the March 11th signing that there are only a few types of birds on roshar with chickens being by far the most common because they are a domesticated food source. Because of that, chicken is synonymous with bird for them. So, as the parrot example shows, just because they say chicken, doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about a chicken, could be any type of bird. Edit: Also, as Aminar said, there are lots of indications that humans are not native to Roshar. It is likely when they came to Roshar they brought their domesticated animals with them such as horses, chickens, etc. which is why there are only a few types of earth recognizable animals around. Bunnies probably didn't make the trip. Edited March 14, 2014 by Awesomeness Summoned
Jreengus Occured Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 It can be reasonably assumed that the planet of human origin(where Hoid is from) has similar biological fauna to earth. Well IIRC, in the Liar of Partinel chapters that are available Hoid tells a story about a rabbit and wolf though due to the circumstances he does have to explain what they are to the listener.
xbauks he/him Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 This is also one of at least 2 references to humanity's escape/expulsion to Roshar. No one in world seems to get it though.
Trevalion Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I remember Hoid pointing out that it was interesting that Rosharians call axehounds what they do, without recalling what a hound is.
JoeAgain he/him Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Adolin notes a painting of "animals from mythology" that includes one I was sure was a lion (1067 US hardback). I hope we're not in for an Earth All Along.
Jreengus Occured Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Not going to happen, Brandon has said that Earth doesn't exist in the cosmere. 4
Trevalion Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Not earth, but plenty of clues that Roshar has been a destination for many species of humans, but not their homeworld.
Zmann966 he/him Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 “Ah, forgot myself for a moment,” Wit said. “Sorry. Let me make it more appropriate for you. A piece of wet slime and a disgusting crab thing with seventeen legs slunk across the rocks together on an insufferably rainy day. Is that better?” The. Best. Quote. Ever. Roshar Tourism Department, I think we have a new slogan. 7
Aminar Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Not going to happen, Brandon has said that Earth doesn't exist in the cosmere. Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 281018368 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 536774960 bytes) in Unknown on line 0 Well clearly the Cosmere is a parallel dimension people from Earth migrated into, led by the dimension hopping psuedo deity Adonalsium, who bears one of the 10 remnants of Gandalf the Opalescent.
happyman he/him Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 While it's not going to have been "Earth all along," it will probably be "A Fantasy world very much like Earth all along, at least for some of the planets." After all, we've gotten pretty normal Earth animals along with all the alien stuff. Which doesn't really bug me. It's a pretty standard trope in High Fantasy, whether connected to Earth or not.
theofficetroll he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 This story made me think of the Bunny with the Bazooka from Alcatraz vs. the Scrivener's Bones, honestly :-) 1
Shardbearer he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Hey, first time post apologies if I've erred in any way. Just finished WOR, probably my favourite of Sanderson's work so far! Was just wondering about the following and whether anyone has any theories etc Page 728 - Wit said. "I will tell you one, to get you in the mood. A Bunny rabbit and a chick went frolicking in the grass together on a sunny day". Obviously Kaladin has no idea what Hoid is talking about. My question is whether there has ever been mention of these particular animals in the cosmere? Sounds like Hoid is talking about Easter to me... I mean, a crazy bunny that lays chocolate chicken eggs?! Weird! 1
IllNsickly he/him Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Nonsensical bunnies are epic. They must always be worked in. Edited April 1, 2014 by IllNsickly
navybrandt he/him Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Mistborn spoiler, kinda... There's the book about talking bunnies that Wayne reads at the end of Alloy of Law.
Eagle of the Forest Path he/him Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Mistborn spoiler, kinda... There's the book about talking bunnies that Wayne reads at the end of Alloy of Law. Ah, but those exist because Harmony created them according to what some ancient religion believed about bunnies. That's why Scadrian bunnies are 12 feet tall, fly by spinning their ears like a helicopter and eat Koloss. Edited October 27, 2015 by EagleOfTheForestPath 3
teknopathetic he/him Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I really like the idea of Roshar being some sort of refugee hotspot. Perhaps Honor or Cultivation allowed easier travel to Roshar? I could see cultivation being the sort of shard to try and lure immigrants, farmers, and settlers.My original thought was that humans had fled from Braize, but I guess 'peoples' could have fled from multiple locations. The stormlight would be a good drawing point (re: a certain swordfighting teacher). Edited October 27, 2015 by teknopathetic 1
natc Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Ah, but those exist because Harmony created them according to what some ancient religion believed about bunnies. That's why Scadrian bunnies are 12 feet tall, fly by spinning their ears like a helicopter and eat Koloss. I do believe Keeper copperminds all contain the same stuff, they simply select parts of it to study and elaborate on because there's way too much to consciously make sense of. So there might be actual academic records of bunnies too, alongside the religious ones. So they are still 12 feet tall because the artwork was shoddy.
Cruxer he/him Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 I really like the idea of Roshar being some sort of refugee hotspot. Perhaps Honor or Cultivation allowed easier travel to Roshar? I could see cultivation being the sort of shard to try and lure immigrants, farmers, and settlers. My original thought was that humans had fled from Braize, but I guess 'peoples' could have fled from multiple locations. The stormlight would be a good drawing point (re: a certain swordfighting teacher). Me too. But you make the assumption that the shards that are present on their corresponding worlds now were there at the time of the human exodus. It seems most likely that at some point Preservation stepped in. Whether having created a way for humans to travel or perhaps preservation made the trip to Roshar itself. Either way, Preservation seems the most likely candidate.
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