Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

12 minutes ago, Elenion said:

Of those eight seven (because me), the one that jumps out to me is Joe/Coop. There were two village Priests in the game to start. This could be balanced out for the Jeskeri by Jeskeri Pendants and maybe an extra Cultist, but it would be a lot harder to balance the Gyorn against that. The Derethi Pendant doesn't cause you to scan as Derethi alignment--you scan as a convert of your real alignment--so the Gyorn would be revealed by the Priest scan and they would not have any plausible explanation for how they could actually be village. They also don't have an extra life to keep them alive longer or a kill to take a Priest out. This makes me assume that the Gyorn had to have started with a Korathi Pendant (or less likely a Jeskeri Pendant) to give them a way to survive into the late-game against the Priests.

We know from an edit to the write up that a Korathi pendant was used on the night that Joe said he used a Korathi pendant on Seonid. While it is entirely possible that the Gyorn started out with an alignment concealing pendant, I doubt the Gyorn would squander their scan protection by using that pendant, especially not so early in the game. So far, no one has attempted to counterclaim Joe's use of the pendant, so I'd say it's unlikely that Joe/Coop, is the Gyorn.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

18 hours ago, Dalinar Kholin said:

Forgoe the foolish errand you now seek

Seek the way and renounce all sin

Learn the wisdom of Elantris's peak

Crush the ancient evil within

Praise the Ja in all

The wind of truth blows through us all

Slippery in blood while wet with tears

We pace for time immemorial this dusty hall

Wrapped in the echoing silence of our fears

Praise the Ja in all

Hearts colder than iron's touch

Souls brighter than the eternal sun

We ask so little but seek so much

The sand runs out my time is done

All shall end and to all is none

Praise the Ja in all

So I pass. 

Praise the Ja!

Did your teammates help you with that?

[little wilson she/her]

I just realized I never actually voted. While it doesn't really matter at this point, Dalinar.

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Cycle closed! I’m by myself tonight, so please bear with me, and expect rollover to take a little longer than normal. 

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Night 5: Seo

Soren Porfiry walked despondently down the echoing tunnels, heading towards the mountain. A second failed attack. The painter would not lay down and die, and though he had first been implicated in her survival, Soren knew the townsfolk now implicated him with the attacks. Both were true, in a way. Soren didn’t care. His mind felt like a blank slate as he drew near the long chain of peaks, stretching as far as the eye could see. This passage was his only refuge from the swarming villagers, who hunted for his blood. It was also his doom, for the winding passages led to only one place of any import.

The pool.

Soren’s thoughts wandered despite the limited time he had remaining to think them. He remembered how he had found the orphan, Elysian, step out of the pool. How he had brought him in front of the rest of his compatriots, those who had not abandoned Shu-Jesker after the fall of Duladel, and continued its faithful practice. How together they had sacrificed, pleaded, and cried for help to the gods, each day, to no avail. Finally, he remembered Elysian’s words before he had stepped into the blue water for the last time. “Praise the Ja.”

Soren felt the passage begin to curve upwards, and knew that he had begun his ascent of the mountain. His heart quickened, each beat precious, numbered. He was drawing near to his own death. Death. He found himself accepting that word. He had made peace with himself, or, more accurately, found his peace within the Ja. His murders brought a small measure of remorse with them, but Soren knew they were necessary. Necessary to open his eyes to the one force that could save him. The force he had discovered after Elysian’s death, and Ateshao’s sacrifice. The Ja.

After an hour of steady climbing, the sloped switchbacks became a set of stairs, and Soren knew he had reached his goal. He climbed up them, emerging from a small door in the cliff face to a flat ledge, carved into the rock. Two sides were drop offs, and two were sheer cliffs, both with doors cut into them. Soren assumed the second door led into Elantris. But it mattered little to him at this point. The pool was waiting silently, ready to claim its next volunteer. The cool water promised forgiveness, peace, freedom, all of which Soren was too ready to accept. The former Cultist stepped up to the edge of the blue water. “Praise the Ja,” he whispered as he fell, and was lost to mortal sight.

 

Dalinar Kholin was lynched! He was a Jeskeri Cultist and a Jindo Warrior! 

Vote count:

Soren Porfiry (Dalinar Kholin) (10): Amati (Kidpen), Bob (Steeldancer), Fenot (Coop772), Kainae (Little Wilson), Sahin Arehe (Mraize), Sheodan (Devotary of Spontaneity), Sheon Idris (Seonid), Straw (Straw)                   

This cycle will end at 8:00 MDT on the 25th of April. If I can find the countdown site, you’ll get a countdown. Otherwise, do math.  Edit: Hero linked it.

Sorry I can’t insert fancy images of Aons and such like Hero can. I did attach a drawing, if it uploads correctly. Sorry for the diminished quality of this cycle post. 

Praise the Ja!  

Edited April 25, 2018 by Fifth Scholar
Update vote count >>

[Kidpen he/him]

Exact right amounts of votes this time. And maybe Dalinar actually did protect Wilson.

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

13 minutes ago, Kidpen said:

Exact right amounts of votes this time

To the contrary, this is the weirdest vote manipulation we've seen so far. 

Mraize and I both voted for Dalinar, so I'm not sure where our votes went. Here are the posts where first I, then Mraize, voted for Dalinar.

Quote

Lynching Dalinar removes a Cultist, but they aren't nearly as close to winning.

Quote

I will also put my vote on Dalinar

Lopen and Elenion similarly voted on Dalinar, yet their votes have vanished as well. This is more likely due to the fact that they are allegedly both Princes with Seons, yet their votes would only have disappeared if they used their princely powers. However, no one who didn't vote yesterday appears in the tally, so unless they made someone vote for a no vote, that's not what happened.

@Fifth Scholar, what is going on here? 

 

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Bad action logging >> let me double-check and update the vote count.

edit: okay, that was my fault. Missed a few votes from rushing. Vote count should be fully accurate, and if you see discrepancies with your vote please PM me.

Edited April 25, 2018 by Fifth Scholar

[little wilson she/her]

Dalinar said he protected me, though he wouldn't tell me why when I asked what the goal was. And he wouldn't have protected me last night. It would've been the first night I was attacked. My lover and I suspect it was a Healthy Gazelle Gambit, in which the eliminators attack and protect a villager in hopes of casting suspicion on them. We think Drake was supposed to do that, but then we backed him into a corner by having him defend himself and then get lynched. Thus, when their Gambit failed, they really tried to kill me and the other Jindo protected me.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

I WAS RIGHT!  YAYYYY! 

[Walin he/him]

I ended up not voting once again. I think I'm going to go for a streak of not voting for anyone but myself this game, unless I'm the deciding vote (though I think I'll let the Monarchs, Princes, and Princesses break ties anyways).

Well, that's three elims down. Are we going to make a priority of preventing the Gyorn and Odiv from winning? As they're pretty much neutral, I don't think it matters much, but they do have the ability to end the game earlier than by eliminators. I think that next day turn, we should either focus on lynching Jeskeri or Shu-Derethi. The night turn after that, focus on finding (and possibly killing, if you have a Jeskeri pendant) the other group. Tonight, I think it should be like every night we've had so far: discussion and whatnot on general things like roles and factions.

-------------

Eoni slept in the fields. He dreamed of being king, of making Arelon be ruled his way. He had nightmares of Jesker priests, glowing light, and jokes told in Fjordell that translated badly to Arelish. He had dreams of improving soil by making Elantrians walk on it. He had nightmares of becoming an Elantrian. He had dreams of Seons, being used to improve broadband of communications greatly. He had nightmares of Aons being translated into sounds, and the resulting awful poems of artists who were literally, but not musically, inclined.

Last of all, he had dreams of soil being dirt, and rocks disappearing, and letting all plants eat of minerals and nutrients freely. Where irrigation...

 

Eoni woke up. It was the middle of the night, but there were things to be about. He had to talk to the others about what to talk about. He had a plan for it...

[Elenion he/him]

I'm fairly sure the vote count is still off, because I Princed STINK onto the bandwagon as well. I'll shoot the GMs a PM and hopefully that gets resolved to clear me. At least it didn't change anything major.

@Devotary of Spontaneity (about my Joe suspicion last cycle) Good point. It's not impossible, but it does move the probability down a few notches.

7 minutes ago, Walin said:

Are we going to make a priority of preventing the Gyorn and Odiv from winning? As they're pretty much neutral, I don't think it matters much, but they do have the ability to end the game earlier than by eliminators.

I very much disagree with this. If they win we don't, just like if the Jeskeri win. There are probably only 2 Cultists left, and 18 players alive, so the Derethi are much more threatening than the Jeskeri are at the moment. Unless we have a confirmed Jeskeri tossed into our laps again, I suggest we focus almost entirely on the Derethi from now on.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

49 minutes ago, Elenion said:

I'm fairly sure the vote count is still off, because I Princed STINK onto the bandwagon as well. I'll shoot the GMs a PM and hopefully that gets resolved to clear me. At least it didn't change anything major.

@Devotary of Spontaneity (about my Joe suspicion last cycle) Good point. It's not impossible, but it does move the probability down a few notches.

I very much disagree with this. If they win we don't, just like if the Jeskeri win. There are probably only 2 Cultists left, and 18 players alive, so the Derethi are much more threatening than the Jeskeri are at the moment. Unless we have a confirmed Jeskeri tossed into our laps again, I suggest we focus almost entirely on the Derethi from now on.

...Wow, I also tried to Prince Stink's vote, so that may be the issue here.

[Elenion he/him]

Just now, TheMightyLopen said:

...Wow, I also tried to Prince Stink's vote, so that may be the issue here.

What did you try to do with it? I tried to put him on DK.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I tried to put him on you.

[Elenion he/him]

1 minute ago, TheMightyLopen said:

I tried to put him on you.

XD. Well, at least it still verifies that I attempted to move his vote.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Maybe Straw is the Gyorn? I feel like he's been a little off this game. Reminds me somewhat of the Death Note QF(15) where Straw was a single elim with a convert. I might take a look at that game tomorrow to see if there's any correlation. It just seems like he's less...hmm, how to put it...involved? Like, one line votes aren't too odd for him, but he usually will do more than that in between votes.

[little wilson she/her]

I've felt he was off in a different way than usual since the beginning of the game. I could see him as either Derethi or Jeskeri (and yeah, I'm aware of the vote on Drake, but he could've easily been keeping up with the game though the doc and known it was pointless to check back in to remove the vote through doc communication). 

[Elenion he/him]

23 minutes ago, TheMightyLopen said:

Maybe Straw is the Gyorn? I feel like he's been a little off this game. Reminds me somewhat of the Death Note QF(15) where Straw was a single elim with a convert. I might take a look at that game tomorrow to see if there's any correlation. It just seems like he's less...hmm, how to put it...involved? Like, one line votes aren't too odd for him, but he usually will do more than that in between votes.

I hadn't been picking up that vibe from Straw, but I just barely wasn't yet around when QF15 was played so I don't have that comparison. (My first game was MR15.)

If Coop is doubtful, we're basically left with a bunch of lurkers/less-actives plus Walin. Not a good field to be scrutinizing with the clock ticking.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Maybe someone should do what Kas did in the previous version of this game.

[Elenion he/him]

1 hour ago, TheYoungPyromancer said:

Maybe someone should do what Kas did in the previous version of this game.

I haven't read that game, so what did Kas do?

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Systematically worked through the possible Gyorn suspects, eliminating people who were scanned/proven to be another role.

[Steeldancer he/him]

3 minutes ago, TheYoungPyromancer said:

Systematically worked through the possible Gyorn suspects, eliminating people who were scanned/proven to be another role.

Isn’t that what Lopen more or less did? 

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Read Kas's posts.  There is one on page 37.

Edited April 25, 2018 by TheYoungPyromancer

[Lord Meeker he/him]

1 hour ago, Steeldancer said:

Isn’t that what Lopen more or less did? 

I thought that is what he was doing.