Steeldancer he/him Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Wrender said: Reveal hidden contents Dumbledore kills snape at the end with a shardwand NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2
Asrael he/him Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) On 10/25/2017 at 7:33 PM, shadowwisp said: It's probably a combination of Vivenna and Nightblood. "It's possible to have two things..." (Lest we get caught up in trying to get the ONE thing) Edited October 27, 2017 by Asrael
Salkara Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 6:07 AM, kari-no-sugata said: It's also possible that we might see Vasher use his Divine Breath on someone at some point... Interesting idea. What if he uses it on Taln?
kari-no-sugata Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Salkara said: Interesting idea. What if he uses it on Taln? If he did I'm sure there's a good chance of Taln being healed. Anyway... Since Nightblood was already introduced at the end of WoR, I think it's likely that we will see Nightblood being used sometime soon. I'm sure Nightblood would be very effective against Voidbringers, for example. 1
Steeldancer he/him Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, kari-no-sugata said: If he did I'm sure there's a good chance of Taln being healed. Anyway... Since Nightblood was already introduced at the end of WoR, I think it's likely that we will see Nightblood being used sometime soon. I'm sure Nightblood would be very effective against Voidbringers, for example. Im sure nightblood would be effective against virtually anything. 3
Salkara Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Steeldancer said: Im sure nightblood would be effective against virtually anything. Nightblood vs. Odium, who wins?
The Sovereign Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Salkara said: Nightblood vs. Odium, who wins? Odium would win I suspect but Nightblood would be a threat. Quote INTERVIEW: Feb 20th, 2015 Chicago ARGENT Can Nightblood damage or kill a Shard? BRANDON SANDERSON Nightblood is not powerful enough for-- *weird ehhh sound* ARGENT Is he that powerful? BRANDON SANDERSON Damage? Yes. How damaging? Is a subject to discussion. Nightblood contains a /lot/ of Investiture. TAGS Nightblood, shard, Edited October 27, 2017 by The Sovereign 3
The Invested Beard Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Nightblood's basically the sword version of this robot lady: http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-the-first-robot-citizen-sophia-animatronic-humanoid-2017-10
Alderant she/her Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Um...there's a WoB specifically stating Vivenna's in Oathbringer. Spoiler Quote Q: What happened to Vivienna?A: She's looking for Vasher. Keep your eyes wide open when reading Oathbringer. 1
ZenBossanova Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Considering that Nightblood was an attempt to recreate a Shardblade, perhaps the Half-Shards that have been made, could be related to some of Vasher's acquaintances trying to recreate Shardblades and shardplate. I am sure Roshar really needs a few more conspiratorial groups.
Salkara Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 14 hours ago, ZenBossanova said: Considering that Nightblood was an attempt to recreate a Shardblade, perhaps the Half-Shards that have been made, could be related to some of Vasher's acquaintances trying to recreate Shardblades and shardplate. I am sure Roshar really needs a few more conspiratorial groups. I'm not sure if it was a WoB, but my understanding was that the Half-Shards made use of aluminum (e.g. the metal that shardblades can't magically cut).
Yata he/him Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 45 minutes ago, Salkara said: I'm not sure if it was a WoB, but my understanding was that the Half-Shards made use of aluminum (e.g. the metal that shardblades can't magically cut). Half Shard aren't made of Alluminium. They are just Augmenter Fabrials
Erunion he/him Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Yata said: Half Shard aren't made of Alluminium. They are just Augmenter Fabrials Which means that they use Investiture to resist shardblades cutting power.
Yata he/him Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Erunion said: Which means that they use Investiture to resist shardblades cutting power. Yes exactly and by the way it's unsure if the Alluminium could be Soul-cutted by a Shardblade Edited October 30, 2017 by Yata 1
Salkara Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Yata said: Yes exactly and by the way it's unsure if the Alluminium could be Soul-cutted by a Shardblade I thought you resolved this one in February ([1] [2]). Based on Peter's explanation, it sounds like shardblades will react to aluminum as if they aren't magic. Like if you try to cut a 2x4 with a sword, you'll probably succeed, but you're not going to cut through a full-grown tree. Has there been different information since then?
Yata he/him Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Salkara said: I thought you resolved this one in February ([1] [2]). Based on Peter's explanation, it sounds like shardblades will react to aluminum as if they aren't magic. Like if you try to cut a 2x4 with a sword, you'll probably succeed, but you're not going to cut through a full-grown tree. Has there been different information since then? 1) the Half Shards are explicity stated as Augmenter Fabrial Shield in-world 2) Brandon said he didn't decide yet how Allumin will be affected by a Shardblade, this means He still didn't use it in an interaction with the Blade. If the Half Shards were Alluminium made....he can't have the doubt about Alluminium interactions with Blade. At the Wob's time, they didn't decided yet, Peter simply provided his view and Brandon didn't agree with him...Sure now maybe they decided the definitive answer, but the Half-Shards was showed in-book long before so they can't be related to that
Salkara Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Yata said: 1) the Half Shards are explicity stated as Augmenter Fabrial Shield in-world 2) Brandon said he didn't decide yet how Allumin will be affected by a Shardblade, this means He still didn't use it in an interaction with the Blade. If the Half Shards were Alluminium made....he can't have the doubt about Alluminium interactions with Blade. At the Wob's time, they didn't decided yet, Peter simply provided his view and Brandon didn't agree with him...Sure now maybe they decided the definitive answer, but the Half-Shards was showed in-book long before so they can't be related to that That wasn't in regards to half-shards. I went back and reread the bits on them. You're right. I was talking more about whether aluminum can be cut by shardblades. From Peter's response, it sounded like shardblades can cut aluminum, but it would need to be thin enough that the shardblade could cut without being magical.
Yata he/him Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, Salkara said: That wasn't in regards to half-shards. I went back and reread the bits on them. You're right. I was talking more about whether aluminum can be cut by shardblades. From Peter's response, it sounded like shardblades can cut aluminum, but it would need to be thin enough that the shardblade could cut without being magical. My bad, I believed you asked in the Half Shards regard. About the WoB, you have right in Peter's point but It's not a Canon answer as Brandon explicity stated It's still (or at least It was) an open debate in the team 1
+Extesian he/him Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Yata said: My bad, I believed you asked in the Half Shards regard. About the WoB, you have right in Peter's point but It's not a Canon answer as Brandon explicity stated It's still (or at least It was) an open debate in the team And, to quote Peter, 2
Wrender Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 0:46 PM, StormingTexan said: Geez now I feel like I need to re-read Warbreaker. The reviewer mentions Vasher and Nightblood so I feel like it has to be Vivenna. Man I'm going to have to charge the anticipation spren hanging around me rent. To be fair, I said "that sword being carried around by that guy", not "Vasher and Nightblood". Do you remember Vasher carrying around Nightblood at the end of WoR? 1
StormingTexan he/him Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Wrender said: To be fair, I said "that sword being carried around by that guy", not "Vasher and Nightblood". Do you remember Vasher carrying around Nightblood at the end of WoR? Well neither did Szeth. I read that as pertaining to Warbreaker. As in “that guy” carrying a sword in Warbreaker not WoR. If you haven’t read Edgedancer yet you haven’t seen Szeth carrying Nightblood.
The One Who Connects he/him Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 8:07 PM, Calderis said: @Zalocx we don't know what Vivenna is actually capable of. The Royal locks function as a partial divine breath. I believe it's in the annotations, but it's explained that Vivenna could learn to fan that partial divine breath to greater life and learn to change more of her appearance, like a mini returned. I think it's absolutely possible it could allow her to achieve the lesser heightenings, and need less breath for greater heightenings. I have a shortcut to the annotations in the "Assortment of Handy Links" on my Sig if you need it. As requested for @Zalocx, from the Warbreaker Epilogue Annotations: Quote Vasher Explains Some Things, but Leaves Some Things Hidden Can Vivenna change her appearance more? She can indeed. She could actually stoke that fragment of a divine Breath inside of her and start glowing like a Returned. She can’t change her physical features to look like someone else, but she can change her age, her height (within reason), and her body shape (to an extent). It takes practice. On 10/25/2017 at 8:33 PM, shadowwisp said: Warbreaker was created to be a backstory for Nightblood. Backstory for Vasher technically. But backstory for him may as well be backstory for both of them. On 10/25/2017 at 10:51 PM, robardin said: And maybe Nalan mentions getting it from someone who will be Vivenna? We know that Vasher and NB had a "falling out" at some point before Stormlight. We know that Vivenna is "looking for Vasher" at present. We know that Vasher was separated from both Vivenna and NB. That doesn't preclude the possibility of Vivenna having Nightblood for some reason, so your idea is technically possible. My biggest gripe is regarding why she would give NB to Nalan. Paragon of laws and justice he may be, but he's not exactly a paragon of sanity. On 10/29/2017 at 5:43 PM, ZenBossanova said: Considering that Nightblood was an attempt to recreate a Shardblade, perhaps the Half-Shards that have been made, could be related to some of Vasher's acquaintances trying to recreate Shardblades and shardplate. I am sure Roshar really needs a few more conspiratorial groups. Half Shards are much more recent that Nightblood. Nightblood was made roughly 600 years ago at this point. Brandon talks about Half Shards as if they're more recent than Gavilar's assassination. [Found It. It uses "new" rather than "recent"] Quote Argent Did people on Roshar have half-Shards before-- like many years ago say before the Recreance? Brandon Sanderson That is a new invention. Argent New in years, or new in hundreds of years? Brandon Sanderson Those have not existed before.
shadowwisp Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, The One Who Connects said: Backstory for Vasher technically. But backstory for him may as well be backstory for both of them. We have a WoB for both of them! Quote QUESTION (PARAPHRASED) Why did you put Nightblood in The Stormlight Archive? BRANDON SANDERSON Nightblood and Vasher were in the original version of the Way of Kings before I wrote Warbreaker. Warbreaker in a way was actually introducing those two characters I'd already created.
LunarFire Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 I have nothing useful to say I last minute decided to read Elantris and Warbreaker in preparation/to preoccupy myself until oathbringer. I LOVED warbreaker and so this is just the cherry on top. I hope we see Viv! 2
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