Elithanathile he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Waitwaitwait he was village? Oh my that looks bad on me then. Well I could say that I'm innocent, but it wouldn't do a whole lot, huh. Well I'm heading off for tonight, and won't be on tomorrow because it'll be Sunday. So I guess I'll see if I survive or not on Monday. Ciao!
Sami she/her Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) What?! No! We did not not just lynch another villager my most profound apologies to PK Let me go back and reread the last cycle.... Edited August 6, 2017 by Sami
Sart he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Hmm... I had considered switching my vote to someone else after the bandwagon formed, but I didn't want to leave the vote to chance, plus the sudden counter-bandwagon made me hesitant. I agreed with Paranoid King on one count though. We need to take a closer look at Yitzi. I was suspicious when he managed to post both cycle 1 and cycle 2 without placing a vote. However, he mentioned he had a new job, so I let the matter drop. Now that he worked to lynch PK, I'm a little more suspicious. Confirmed good does not equal confirmed right, but it's at least a place to start. @Yitzi2 who are your suspicions? I'm curious to know.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 That's too bad. Well, one thing I'm taking from last Cycle is a stronger village read on Elith. Really, the only thing I thought was suspicious about him was the stuff about Orlok, and I think that's much clearer now. Ouch. I got attacked. Guess I'm cleared now, huh? Currently, I think Elith, Orlok(paranoid though), Sart, Bard, Arraenae, Winter, and DA are villagers. Those aren't strong reads, but oh well. I'm still leaning slightly village for Stink as well. My elim reads are more just a group that I'd like to focus on: Eternum, Jebus, Elenion, Roadwalker, Jondesu, Sami, Ecthelion, Yitzi, and Arinian. I feel like most of the eliminators are probably in this group. They haven't posted a lot, or done anything that would really draw attention to themselves. What does everyone else think about this group? I'd like to see as many opinions as possible, since we really really need to get an eliminator this Cycle.
Yitzi2 Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Sart said: Hmm... I had considered switching my vote to someone else after the bandwagon formed, but I didn't want to leave the vote to chance, plus the sudden counter-bandwagon made me hesitant. I agreed with Paranoid King on one count though. We need to take a closer look at Yitzi. I was suspicious when he managed to post both cycle 1 and cycle 2 without placing a vote. However, he mentioned he had a new job, so I let the matter drop. Now that he worked to lynch PK, I'm a little more suspicious. Confirmed good does not equal confirmed right, but it's at least a place to start. @Yitzi2 who are your suspicions? I'm curious to know. I haven't had much; between not getting into it cycle 1, and being unable to get on for most of cycle 3, I'm just not as into this game as some others in the past. That was part of why I avoided voting, though most of it was that, unlike other games, there is a potential downside to voting (if the target turns out to be Truthless) and therefore I'm not inclined to vote on a minor suspicion like I often would. (I very rarely have more than minor suspicions; usually no more than one or two per game.) That said: Winter definitely seems suspicious; his initial claim of Truthless, followed by behavior not matching Truthless, definitely suggests that he's trying to deceive someone. Whether that's a Truthless whose initial IKYK gambit failed and is now trying to seem elim, or an elim trying to deceive the village, or a villager trying to confuse the elims, I couldn't say, though he's definitely my top choice for elim at the moment.
Arraenae Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, TheMightyLopen said: That's too bad. Well, one thing I'm taking from last Cycle is a stronger village read on Elith. Really, the only thing I thought was suspicious about him was the stuff about Orlok, and I think that's much clearer now. Ouch. I got attacked. Guess I'm cleared now, huh? ...You do know that WGGs are a thing, right? @Elbereth, will we get clarification on if that was an Escaller extra life or Lightweaver protect? 1
Elbereth she/her Posted August 6, 2017 Author Posted August 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, Arraenae said: ...You do know that WGGs are a thing, right? @Elbereth, will we get clarification on if that was an Escaller extra life or Lightweaver protect? No, you will not. Also, vote tally has been updated, because it was slightly wrong. Apologies.
Elenion he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Huh, somebody cancelled my vote off of Sart. Edit: I can't find my post! I wrote a post right at the beginning of last cycle, pointing out that Sart's accusation of Arin assumed that Sart knew Stick's alignment beforehand. This was before Sart had accrued any votes. This post is now gone and I don't know what happened to it. Maybe it never posted. Edited August 6, 2017 by Elenion
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Oh, oops. Crap. I didn't vote. Ohhh.... It ends at 7am, not 8am... Stupid timezones. So we just lost a Dustbringer. That can't be good. But now that we know Lopen is cleared (Rae, it's called a Wounded Gazelle Gambit for a reason. The elims don't have any reason to try it this early.. If you were joking, sorry?) , we can move on to other suspects, maybe. Lopen, you include me in a list of elim suspects because I haven't posted a lot or made any wild claims. The first is because I've been out of town recently, and I've posted whenever I had time and internet. I was camping the day before yesterday, that's why I didn't vote, and didn't vote last cycle because I fell asleep and woke up 11 minutes after the cycle ended, realizing my mistake :l The second is because I am very much a team player, and will support anyone who has a good idea and some credibility, as shown in cycle 1 when I voted for Flash after Rae voiced her suspicions. Honestly, I'm not a good enough player to make any informed guesses or sensible claims. It goes without saying that a team player in a game where you don't know your team is gonna have a hard time. Also, Orlok, last cycle you asked whether I wasted time coming up with that plan. I did not. I always try not to overthink things, first because paranoia should be kept under heavy chains and released only when Damnation's all broken loose, and second because if I do I'll eventually decide against whatever I'm planning and go back to square one. Wait, what? Len's post just appeared as I was typing. That's very very suspicious. That probably wasn't a village Dustbringer, so why would the elims try to keep Sart alive? It might be that a village Dustbringer did it and Len is elim.. (Yes I am aware there are other possibilities) I'll think about it over breakfast, maybe.. *Stomach growls* Edited August 6, 2017 by Eternum
Elenion he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 @Eternum I'm suspecting a posting problem (see my edit), and even if there was a Dustbringer involved it could have been Sart removing the vote from himself. Also, we've seen cycle 1 WGGs before. It's logic like yours that makes them such a powerful weapon. But I do agree with you that a WGG probably wouldn't be wise right now, where Lopen hadn't accrued any suspicion.
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Alright, you have a point, hence my edit (before your post) adding the acknowledgement that there are other possibilities. I would honestly rather trust Lopen than start being wary of one of the people that have contributed the most to the conversation. Also, cycle 1 WGGs make a certain amount of sense, if I'm being honest. Cycle 4 doesn't make much sense to me, though. And as you've said, there is no (or rather, not much) suspicion targeted at Lopen.
Sami she/her Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Eternum said: Oh, oops. Crap. I didn't vote. Ohhh.... It ends at 7am, not 8am... Stupid timezones. Huh. For me the cycle ends at 2pm which is pretty convenient as I can read the cycle and post before it ends, as well as catch the beginning of the next one. Edited August 6, 2017 by Sami clarifying a few things
Arraenae Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Maybe it's just me, but Eternum's knowledge of terminology here feels a little weird. It feels like he's already familiar with a lot of stuff, which could happen if he was an elim. Off the top of my head, I haven't been feeling the same effort with Orlok that I normally do. He's said that his playstyle would be different so he could have some time with El, but I haven't felt the same sense of solviness that I normally feel. Orlok's null for me, and considering that's him, it might be elimy. I'll look at his posts later, after I've slept. Off the top of my head (again, I need to sleep soon), I kind of trust Lopen. Not for his attack, but because he feels like he's been putting effort into the game, which he has admitted is something he doesn't do as an elim.
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sami said: Huh. For me the cycle ends at 2pm Again, as I said, timezones.
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Arraenae said: Maybe it's just me, but Eternum's knowledge of terminology here feels a little weird. It feels like he's already familiar with a lot of stuff, which could happen if he was an elim. Off the top of my head, I haven't been feeling the same effort with Orlok that I normally do. He's said that his playstyle would be different so he could have some time with El, but I haven't felt the same sense of solviness that I normally feel. Orlok's null for me, and considering that's him, it might be elimy. I'll look at his posts later, after I've slept. Off the top of my head (again, I need to sleep soon), I kind of trust Lopen. Not for his attack, but because he feels like he's been putting effort into the game, which he has admitted is something he doesn't do as an elim. Rae, I've played mafia before. (Granted, only twice, but hey.) Doesn't take long to learn terminology. It wasn't all that hard to transfer what I knew to here. Also, as I mentioned before, there is a list of all the terminology in one of the pinned posts. I read it. I'm using them. At this point, this isn't suspicion, this is nitpicking. Why would a noob elim know the terminology, and a noob village not? EDIT: Sigh, sorry if I'm coming off as offensive or overprotective. I'm tired and hungry. Edited August 6, 2017 by Eternum 1
Arraenae Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Eternum said: Rae, I've played mafia before. (Granted, only twice, but hey.) Doesn't take long to learn terminology. It wasn't all that hard to transfer what I knew to here. Also, as I mentioned before, there is a list of all the terminology in one of the pinned posts. I read it. I'm using them. At this point, this isn't suspicion, this is nitpicking. Why would a noob elim know the terminology, and a noob village not? Oh, okay. That makes things a bit different then. I thought you were completely new.
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Heh, okay. I see. Edited August 6, 2017 by Eternum
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 I would also like to mention that if the writeup is any good, it's likely Lopen was saved by a Lightweaver.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Dammit I missed rollover...Sometimes I hate my motivation problems.... No I hate them all the time @Orlok TsubodaiFor the way I saw Stick as being villager, like i said we role-claimed, and the way Stick approached me didn't set off any alarms asides from the role-claim part, and since well, yeah, she's dead now. So she was telling the truth. If I had been on in time, I would have come forward and told everyone that she had PMed me and I thought she was a villager *shrugs 2 hours ago, TheMightyLopen said: That's too bad. Well, one thing I'm taking from last Cycle is a stronger village read on Elith. Really, the only thing I thought was suspicious about him was the stuff about Orlok, and I think that's much clearer now. Ouch. I got attacked. Guess I'm cleared now, huh? Currently, I think Elith, Orlok(paranoid though), Sart, Bard, Arraenae, Winter, and DA are villagers. Those aren't strong reads, but oh well. I'm still leaning slightly village for Stink as well. My elim reads are more just a group that I'd like to focus on: Eternum, Jebus, Elenion, Roadwalker, Jondesu, Sami, Ecthelion, Yitzi, and Arinian. I feel like most of the eliminators are probably in this group. They haven't posted a lot, or done anything that would really draw attention to themselves. What does everyone else think about this group? I'd like to see as many opinions as possible, since we really really need to get an eliminator this Cycle. Lol did you deliberately forget @STINK Anyway. So so far this game hasn't really set off any alarms at people being elims, suspicions only. This so far is my best lead, that being @overlordjebus Well, this is just me being cynical, and I did say that I would keep an eye on you But you did seem to go back to lurking afterwards, I already said this could just have been you trying to back out of being led to a lynch. And also this Derpcleared? Maybe idk. And you seem to be pushing on @winter devotionnow. Seems to me that you could just be prodding at the villagers (I do think winter is a villager, and I am a villager of course ), seeing where you may be able to lead a lynch onto another villager rather than an elim. And also interspersed with your lurking, you haven't really been driving or really pushing conversation in general, just been throwing shade here and there. Your only real claim to being a villager is the "derpclear", which could be a play suggested by your elim friends to get your eyes off me Like Stink, I hate schemes, and I see them everywhere . Will post thoughts on everyone else later.
Magestar he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 5 hours ago, TheMightyLopen said: That's too bad. Well, one thing I'm taking from last Cycle is a stronger village read on Elith. Really, the only thing I thought was suspicious about him was the stuff about Orlok, and I think that's much clearer now. Ouch. I got attacked. Guess I'm cleared now, huh? Currently, I think Elith, Orlok(paranoid though), Sart, Bard, Arraenae, Winter, and DA are villagers. Those aren't strong reads, but oh well. I'm still leaning slightly village for Stink as well. My elim reads are more just a group that I'd like to focus on: Eternum, Jebus, Elenion, Roadwalker, Jondesu, Sami, Ecthelion, Yitzi, and Arinian. I feel like most of the eliminators are probably in this group. They haven't posted a lot, or done anything that would really draw attention to themselves. What does everyone else think about this group? I'd like to see as many opinions as possible, since we really really need to get an eliminator this Cycle. This post. This post! This post made me feel really weird. Not sure why. Mmk. I'm still suspicious of Winter, but at this point it's more because they haven't been able to do anything to dissuade me. I'm not sure that a villager would be able to do anything more than Winter has done, but I'm still not sure Winter is village. People I'm paranoid of; Lopen, Orlok. I know I probably can't read Orlok, but I need to take another look at Lopen. I'm worried that I can't read Lopen either. Somewhat suspicious of Rae, and Elith. Haven't really thought about this enough; I'll explain more later. Although the suspicion of Elith has basically become somewhat obvious, and has been explained by other people.
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 Eh, don't worry about it too much. People didn't even listen when El said to put our votes as separate posts, if it helps.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Eternum said: Alright, you have a point, hence my edit (before your post) adding the acknowledgement that there are other possibilities. I would honestly rather trust Lopen than start being wary of one of the people that have contributed the most to the conversation. Also, cycle 1 WGGs make a certain amount of sense, if I'm being honest. Cycle 4 doesn't make much sense to me, though. And as you've said, there is no (or rather, not much) suspicion targeted at Lopen. Just trying to figure out your thought process here. What makes a C1 WGG more valid strategy wise than a C4 WGG? 7 hours ago, Arraenae said: Maybe it's just me, but Eternum's knowledge of terminology here feels a little weird. It feels like he's already familiar with a lot of stuff, which could happen if he was an elim. Off the top of my head, I haven't been feeling the same effort with Orlok that I normally do. He's said that his playstyle would be different so he could have some time with El, but I haven't felt the same sense of solviness that I normally feel. Orlok's null for me, and considering that's him, it might be elimy. I'll look at his posts later, after I've slept. Off the top of my head (again, I need to sleep soon), I kind of trust Lopen. Not for his attack, but because he feels like he's been putting effort into the game, which he has admitted is something he doesn't do as an elim. Well, I didn't say I don't put effort into the game, just that I post less. I talk a lot in docs after all. But thanks for the kind of trust anyways. xD 7 hours ago, Eternum said: I would also like to mention that if the writeup is any good, it's likely Lopen was saved by a Lightweaver. I could just say how I was saved, if everyone really wants to know. I'm not sure if it really matters. 6 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said: Lol did you deliberately forget @STINK No, I deliberately didn't forget him. I only put him last because I have a somewhat stronger village read on the others. 3 hours ago, Magestar said: This post. This post! This post made me feel really weird. Not sure why. Mmk. I'm still suspicious of Winter, but at this point it's more because they haven't been able to do anything to dissuade me. I'm not sure that a villager would be able to do anything more than Winter has done, but I'm still not sure Winter is village. People I'm paranoid of; Lopen, Orlok. I know I probably can't read Orlok, but I need to take another look at Lopen. I'm worried that I can't read Lopen either. Somewhat suspicious of Rae, and Elith. Haven't really thought about this enough; I'll explain more later. Although the suspicion of Elith has basically become somewhat obvious, and has been explained by other people. Sorry about making you feel weird. I would like to hear your reasons for suspecting Rae and Elith. I've kinda got a village read on you right now, but it's hard to have a village read on someone who's suspicious of 3 players that I think are village... Anyways, once I get back from church, I'll try to do a full analysis on that group of players I mentioned as suspicious. Shouldn't take too long. >> Edit: Oh, and regardless of which role I am, I'd appreciate some protection this Cycle, if I can get it. Because if I'm an Elsecaller, my extra life is gone, and if I'm a Lightweaver, I can't protect myself this Cycle. Edited August 6, 2017 by TheMightyLopen
Eternum he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TheMightyLopen said: Just trying to figure out your thought process here. What makes a C1 WGG better strategy wise than a C4 WGG? I could just say how I was saved, if everyone really wants to know. I'm not sure if it really matters. A C1 WGG is more strategically viable because at C1 people have no more than mild suspicions and gut reads, I think. Someone that's "cleared" C1 will probably gain more trust than someone "cleared", say, C4. (*Snort*, C4) Also, honestly, don't tell us. It'll only benefit the elims. Edited August 6, 2017 by Eternum
Yitzi2 Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, winter devotion said: I'm a they, not a he. Sorry; if it helps, you're not the first person whose gender I've gotten mixed up on.
Elenion he/him Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 @TheMightyLopenAlso, C4 you'll have players who need to be eliminated based on role or analysis, while C1 is really only good for casting minor suspicion or fear kills. There are usually no hard-cleared or widely trusted villagers and few role-claims C1. Also, Eternum is sounding a lot like me when I started SE but with more sass. I'm reading slightly village on him.
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