BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay please excuse my exuberance, but I just proved that Burnt is indeed a skindancer! You will have to take my word for it, but I would happily die if anyone wants to kill me so that you will FINALLY start listening to me! I used fae lore to target burnt last cycle and it blocked all of her actions, as she claimed herself in thread! And fae lore only blocks all of a person's actions if they are a skindancer!!! I literally did a happy dance when I read burnt's confession of being blocked! Hehehehehehe did you forgot about fae lore @Burnt Spaghetti (caught ya!) Okay calming down down... I also am suspicious of HH, and either steph, alvron, cluny, or stick. I know alv is in the crockery, but it looks like he went insane naturally, and I was suspicious of him before and I still am. Also alvron and stick both voted for PK who is pretty much cleared since in the writeup he was literally sabotaged by the skindancers...and then he helped us catch aonar when personally I didn't even suspect aonar before that. I think they were trying to get him to stop talking to people in PMs(which has been helpful) and also get him expelled so they can kill him. For HH, I was going to do a read through of his entire posts but then i found stick's post where she just did a play by play on him and I was like oh thanks stick lol...so all I can say is that I've had a weird gut feeling about him for the whole game, and I also agree that having a physicker on the elim team is a smart move. Steph and HH haven't seemed like they've gotten along well in the thread, and I tend to think that one or the other is prob evil. (Or they are trying to make us think that, and are really teammate elims lol) I started being suspicious of HH when he told us not to take the turn one voting too seriously, but it WAS serious because as stick pointed out it really got several students in trouble. For cluny I don't have much of a read other than early on in the game he stuck up for steph(who I'm kinda suspicious of too). For steph...I kinda suspect a richer elim to have bought the other gram in imre cuz I was there a lot and it came available again, but someone bought it, and it wasn't me. (So maybe either HH, Steph, or PK bought it) Although at this point with so many students having been expelled for a while they could have saved up for it too. I was suspicious of Arinian earlier in the game, but I've since had the feeling that he actually isn't an elim. (Not 100% or anything I just suspect the others more) I will try to read back through the others posts and tell my thoughts on them some more. But please please please listen to me about Burnt!
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay please excuse my exuberance, but I just proved that Burnt is indeed a skindancer! You will have to take my word for it, but I would happily die if anyone wants to kill me so that you will FINALLY start listening to me! I used fae lore to target burnt last cycle and it blocked all of her actions, as she claimed herself in thread! And fae lore only blocks all of a person's actions if they are a skindancer!!! I literally did a happy dance when I read burnt's confession of being blocked! Hehehehehehe did you forgot about fae lore @Burnt Spaghetti (caught ya!) Okay calming down down... I also am suspicious of HH, and either steph, alvron, cluny, or stick. I know alv is in the crockery, but it looks like he went insane naturally, and I was suspicious of him before and I still am. Also alvron and stick both voted for PK who is pretty much cleared since in the writeup he was literally sabotaged by the skindancers...and then he helped us catch aonar when personally I didn't even suspect aonar before that. I think they were trying to get him to stop talking to people in PMs(which has been helpful) and also get him expelled so they can kill him. For HH, I was going to do a read through of his entire posts but then i found stick's post where she just did a play by play on him and I was like oh thanks stick lol...so all I can say is that I've had a weird gut feeling about him for the whole game, and I also agree that having a physicker on the elim team is a smart move. Steph and HH haven't seemed like they've gotten along well in the thread, and I tend to think that one or the other is prob evil. (Or they are trying to make us think that, and are really teammate elims lol) I started being suspicious of HH when he told us not to take the turn one voting too seriously, but it WAS serious because as stick pointed out it really got several students in trouble. For cluny I don't have much of a read other than early on in the game he stuck up for steph(who I'm kinda suspicious of too). For steph...I kinda suspect a richer elim to have bought the other gram in imre cuz I was there a lot and it came available again, but someone bought it, and it wasn't me. (So maybe either HH, Steph, or PK bought it) Although at this point with so many students having been expelled for a while they could have saved up for it too. I was suspicious of Arinian earlier in the game, but I've since had the feeling that he actually isn't an elim. (Not 100% or anything I just suspect the others more) I will try to read back through the others posts and tell my thoughts on them some more. But please please please listen to me about Burnt! I'll put behind me your suspicion of me and consider this. If what you say is true, then Burnt is indeed a Skindancer, and the Elim team will be on the run (given someone takes her out). This is good info. 1
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, Hemalurgic_Headshot said: I'll put behind me your suspicion of me and consider this. If what you say is true, then Burnt is indeed a Skindancer, and the Elim team will be on the run (given someone takes her out). This is good info. Well even though I am suspicious of you (I'm suspicious of almost everyone lolz) Thankyou for acknowledging my info!
Stick. she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 @BrightnessRadiant wow. If what you're saying is right, I'd say the three remaining elims are Burnt, Alv and HH. 1
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: @BrightnessRadiant wow. If what you're saying is right, I'd say the three remaining elims are Burnt, Alv and HH. On the contrary, I think you are the Elim, not I. But I'm sure you won't confess your crimes outright.
Stick. she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hemalurgic_Headshot said: On the contrary, I think you are the Elim, not I. But I'm sure you won't confess your crimes outright. But why do you think so? Okay, I was probably wrong about the PK thing, but you voted on me before that as well and I don't understand why? I have no crimes to confess Edited May 17, 2017 by _Stick_ spelling
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Haha okay @Hemalurgic_Headshot and @_Stick_ so you're both suspicious of each other good to know But my main question now is: how do we proceed to win this game? If we need to get rid of the remaining elims we need a plan...and since I lack PMs I just have to do my playing out here haha. We need to attack burnt but she has a gram right?? How do we do that? And then there's the question of, does one of the other elims have a gram too? Cuz I know someone bought one. So we are gonna have to double up on the elims if we are gonna succeed before they kill all of us expelled peeps one by one.
queensteph she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Alv had been elevated in Alchemy and Artificery so it's no wonder he went insane. @BrightnessRadiant if it helps any, I did not buy a gram. I've actually only gone to Imre twice and both times the Gram was already sold out. Stick and HH were the Physickers I had researched. So they're both telling the truth there. (Stick said HH being a physicker was public info and I thought it was too but couldn't remember because I know I researched him too.) I haven't had time to do any major analysis which is why I've been suspicious of HH since I knew for certain he was a Physicker. But now we know Stick is too so I'm not sure which of the 2 I suspect more. 1
queensteph she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Sorry to double post but this isn't really an add-on so I want to make sure people see it. Can you buy a gram for someone else? If Burnt is evil then I'd suspect she would purchase another one for a skindancer buddy since she is expelled she would have the most money and would know whenever a gram would come up for sale.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, queensteph said: Sorry to double post but this isn't really an add-on so I want to make sure people see it. Can you buy a gram for someone else? If Burnt is evil then I'd suspect she would purchase another one for a skindancer buddy since she is expelled she would have the most money and would know whenever a gram would come up for sale. Actually I don't think you can buy two at the same time but unsure as I've never bought one...I'm going off of knowledge of bodyguard rules...I bought one and than later asked the gms if you could buy another one and they said that I couldn't have two bodyguard contracts in my name at the same time...I could only get a second if the first contract was destroyed by an attack. Not sure if this applies to grams or not? @Elbereth
queensteph she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 @BrightnessRadiant well Grams are items though
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, queensteph said: @BrightnessRadiant well Grams are items though Oh yeah that's right! Hmmm good point Sherlock 1
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Okay so I've been mulling over the fact that stick has placed a lot of blame on HH throughout the game and I'm starting to wonder if maybe she is the elim physicker trying to frame HH. I've tunneled on someone before (*cough Wilson *cough) and we all know how that ended So what if stick is blaming HH hoping to get rid of him and she knows burnt is outed so she says she thinks the other elims are burnt, alv and HH (just speculating) but maybe alv isn't actually evil either? I dunno...what if it could be burnt, stick, and steph?? (Just a theory) @_Stick_ why did you vote for PK? He couldn't be elevated any more and expelling him would only put him in more danger. Also you seemed suspicious of HH and yet you didn't vote for him and now he can still be elevated. Seems strange. I'm trying to consider all the options this time and not tunnel. Thoughts anyone? Edit: sorry for the double post...I thought someone else had posted since me oops Also I was wondering if HH says he used physicking to detain aonar and I blocked burnt with archives...then who blocked arinian and why? Does he have a dangerous power to the elims? Or did a villager suspect him of being evil? Edited May 17, 2017 by BrightnessRadiant
Arinian Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Also I was wondering if HH says he used physicking to detain aonar and I blocked burnt with archives...then who blocked arinian and why? Does he have a dangerous power to the elims? Or did a villager suspect him of being evil? Maybe you blocked me too if Burnt is symphatyst. She expelled and can target only people in Imre I'm also expelled and I'm dangerous cause I'm noble and can buy Assassins. Also I have very dangerous abilities(no) I have 2 Arithmetics abilities. 1
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Arinian said: Maybe you blocked me too if Burnt is symphatyst. She expelled and can target only people in Imre I'm also expelled and I'm dangerous cause I'm noble and can buy Assassins. Also I have very dangerous abilities(no) I have 2 Arithmetics abilities. Ah arinian! That's right you did say you studied in arithmetics so it would be weird for someone to block you on purpose. It does seem more likely she is a sympathist bound to you than that someone would block you unless they were also thinking that you could be sending an assassin after someone? If burnt is bound to you, then if we try to kill her than you'll be attacked too hmmm argh
Arinian Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Ah arinian! That's right you did say you studied in arithmetics so it would be weird for someone to block you on purpose. It does seem more likely she is a sympathist bound to you than that someone would block you unless they were also thinking that you could be sending an assassin after someone? If burnt is bound to you, then if we try to kill her than you'll be attacked too hmmm argh Yeah... anyway I'm not very useful. And trade 1 villager on 1 elim is good trade.
Sparkrunner he/him Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 I would not trust BR until I see Burnt defend herself.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Arinian said: Yeah... anyway I'm not very useful. And trade 1 villager on 1 elim is good trade. Aww that's not true every villager is useful! Sad that she might be bound to you though sorry about that
queensteph she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 Burnt isn't a Sympathist I scanned her earlier on. I'd like for her to defend herself. She could've been blocked by BR's Fae Lore. but there other possibilities too. I've been trusting of Burnt for a bit especially since I believe she helped in killing Aonar which, if she was evil, I don't think she would've used her 15(or so) talents to hire an assassin. A Physicker could've used: Medica Detainment: Detain a player in Medica for a turn, role-blocking all of their actions for one turn. A Artificer could've used: Tenaculum: E’lir - Destroy an item or cancel an action. Also, 6/10 Names also have the ability to roleblock students actions. So while it is interesting that Burnt was blocked, it doesn't necessarily mean that she is a skindancer. @Burnt Spaghetti anything to say?
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, queensteph said: Burnt isn't a Sympathist I scanned her earlier on. I'd like for her to defend herself. She could've been blocked by BR's Fae Lore. but there other possibilities too. I've been trusting of Burnt for a bit especially since I believe she helped in killing Aonar which, if she was evil, I don't think she would've used her 15(or so) talents to hire an assassin. A Physicker could've used: Medica Detainment: Detain a player in Medica for a turn, role-blocking all of their actions for one turn. A Artificer could've used: Tenaculum: E’lir - Destroy an item or cancel an action. Also, 6/10 Names also have the ability to roleblock students actions. So while it is interesting that Burnt was blocked, it doesn't necessarily mean that she is a skindancer. @Burnt Spaghetti anything to say? Seems odd that she would have ALL of her actions blocked on the same turn that I used fae lore on her...I would like to hear what she says though. @Burnt Spaghetti If you are a villager I'd hate to be accusing you like this. Also if she isn't using sympathy then arinian was blocked by someone else...but why? I can't really believe a villager would have blocked arinian cuz he hasn't had that much suspicion on him since he was expelled...I don't think he's even been talked about much? So it would seem like an elim block to keep him from using an assassin...I guess. Edit: also I could see an elim helping to kill aonar when it was obvious that everyone was trying to kill him anyways. And if you don't want the villagers buying assassins why not drive up the price? It's the only way some of us can fight back. Edited May 18, 2017 by BrightnessRadiant
queensteph she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Seems odd that she would have ALL of her actions blocked on the same turn that I used fae lore on her...I would like to hear what she says though. @Burnt Spaghetti If you are a villager I'd hate to be accusing you like this. Also if she isn't using sympathy then arinian was blocked by someone else...but why? I can't really believe a villager would have blocked arinian cuz he hasn't had that much suspicion on him since he was expelled...I don't think he's even been talked about much? So it would seem like an elim block to keep him from using an assassin...I guess. I don't see why. A physicker could've used Medica Detainment on her since they know she's rich/in Imre so it would keep them from taking a hit from her. HH or Stick could be lying about who they targeted. I'm pretty sure one of them is evil I'm just not sure who. @ students please be active. we could really use your help and any analysis is welcome. I'm leaning more towards Stick being the Elim rather than HH. Stick could've targeted me since I am also Vintish, but he probably figured I wasn't in Imre since I got elevated instead of him last round. Stick Stick It'd be great for the Elims to throw Burnt under the bus by Stick saying he didn't put in an action and therefore making it seem like Brightness' Fae Lore is actually what blocked her. It's quite convenient actually, so now I'm somewhat suspicious of BR as well.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, queensteph said: I don't see why. A physicker could've used Medica Detainment on her since they know she's rich/in Imre so it would keep them from taking a hit from her. HH or Stick could be lying about who they targeted. I'm pretty sure one of them is evil I'm just not sure who. @ students please be active. we could really use your help and any analysis is welcome. I'm leaning more towards Stick being the Elim rather than HH. Stick could've targeted me since I am also Vintish, but he probably figured I wasn't in Imre since I got elevated instead of him last round. Stick Stick It'd be great for the Elims to throw Burnt under the bus by Stick saying he didn't put in an action and therefore making it seem like Brightness' Fae Lore is actually what blocked her. It's quite convenient actually, so now I'm somewhat suspicious of BR as well. Hmmmm interesting....I can't decide about you steph You're either a villager or REALLY good at throwing me for a loop....I don't see why you trust burnt so much? Just cuz she "helped" kill aonar. That's a perfect situation for her to make herself look innocent. EVERYONE was trying to kill him lol Also you said that you "asked" burnt to help you but she was expelled one cycle before that making it impossible for you to communicate with her unless you were talking in a secret doc?? (hmm who has one of those, again?)
queensteph she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Hmmmm interesting....I can't decide about you steph You're either a villager or REALLY good at throwing me for a loop....I don't see why you trust burnt so much? Just cuz she "helped" kill aonar. That's a perfect situation for her to make herself look innocent. EVERYONE was trying to kill him lol Also you said that you "asked" burnt to help you but she was expelled one cycle before that making it impossible for you to communicate with her unless you were talking in a secret doc?? (hmm who has one of those, again?) I don't trust her "so much". I'm not even really defending her although I do think she's possibly village so i'm tryna help by looking at it from all angles. I trust her somewhat since she helped kill Aonar (I'm assuming since he was killed like 4 times or something if the writeup is actual. So yeah, she could be evil but she hasn't tipped my scale yet as being positively evil. Also, just because a student is expelled doesn't mean I can't PM them, they just can't reply. I originally asked Drake to do the double Assassin kill on Aonar, but since Drake died that cycle (he was waiting til the next turn to put in the request so that I could get to Imre and we could both hire Assassins on the same turn), so I asked Burnt instead since she was expelled and in Imre I knew that if she was good she would help kill him. so stop throwin shade m'lade
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, queensteph said: I don't trust her "so much". I'm not even really defending her although I do think she's possibly village so i'm tryna help by looking at it from all angles. I trust her somewhat since she helped kill Aonar (I'm assuming since he was killed like 4 times or something if the writeup is actual. So yeah, she could be evil but she hasn't tipped my scale yet as being positively evil. Also, just because a student is expelled doesn't mean I can't PM them, they just can't reply. I originally asked Drake to do the double Assassin kill on Aonar, but since Drake died that cycle (he was waiting til the next turn to put in the request so that I could get to Imre and we could both hire Assassins on the same turn), so I asked Burnt instead since she was expelled and in Imre I knew that if she was good she would help kill him. so stop throwin shade m'lade I was wondering if someone in the uni could actually message someone outside the uni...well that's good to know lol I'll stop for now...maybe
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