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7 minutes ago, Quiver said:

Everytime I see "AU Spoiler" on threads, I think they are talking about Cosmere Alternate Universes. :mellow:

I have head the same problem, actually. :mellow:

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...the 17th Shard is having a better comic book based discussion than any of the comic book forums I have visited.    I'd be surprised, but let's face it. This site is the best.      

TwiLyghtSansSparkles
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Just randomly thought of this, so may I present….How Harry Potter and the Cursed Child Should Have Ended.  

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Kaymyth

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3 hours ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

bleeder, I didn't read Philosopher's Stone until I was seventeen and I saw Buffy as Satanic Evil Magic Show #486 for most of my teen years. Of course I haven't seen Labyrinth. 

GO WATCH LABYRINTH RIGHT NOW

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Oversleep

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I can get people believe moon landing was faked or similar conspiracy theories.

But then there are people who believe Earth is flat. Ever since I joined their FB group my belief in humanity as whole started to falter.

EDIT: Ouch, I can't stand such exposure to pure, undilluted idiocy. Maybe I should leave the group...?

On the other hand, I have "adopted" few of the theories that I can disprove later and using this as the basis started shooting down other theories in conflict with "mine" which are "correct".

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ThirdGen

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6 hours ago, Oversleep said:

On the other hand, I have "adopted" few of the theories that I can disprove later and using this as the basis started shooting down other theories in conflict with "mine" which are "correct".

Oh wow, I think you've just cracked the code.

Kaymyth

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6 hours ago, Oversleep said:

I can get people believe moon landing was faked or similar conspiracy theories.

But then there are people who believe Earth is flat. Ever since I joined their FB group my belief in humanity as whole started to falter.

EDIT: Ouch, I can't stand such exposure to pure, undilluted idiocy. Maybe I should leave the group...?

On the other hand, I have "adopted" few of the theories that I can disprove later and using this as the basis started shooting down other theories in conflict with "mine" which are "correct".

FLEE.  Flee the madness, before it's too late!

Oversleep

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On 18.11.2016 at 5:50 AM, ThirdGen said:

Oh wow, I think you've just cracked the code.

On 18.11.2016 at 5:51 AM, Kaymyth said:

FLEE.  Flee the madness, before it's too late!

I'll see how much more I can stand before I leave :P My purpose is noble: you can't fight them if they didn't agree on any particular theory. In previous debates when conflicted with data they fled to "but this isn't only explanation, another theory is BLAHBLAHBLAH". So I pretend to be one of them, make them choose a core set of theories which I can later disprove.

BTW, this is a fun exercise in scientifical thinking. Really. I have to carefully choose my steps and easily proven facts to build on them.

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people think that heliocentric is correct and geocentric is not; in fact there is nothing inherently better in any of the two, these are jsut models and motion is relative
Kaymyth

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6 minutes ago, Oversleep said:

I'll see how much more I can stand before I leave :P My purpose is noble: you can't fight them if they didn't agree on any particular theory. In previous debates when conflicted with data they fled to "but this isn't only explanation, another theory is BLAHBLAHBLAH". So I pretend to be one of them, make them choose a core set of theories which I can later disprove.

BTW, this is a fun exercise in scientifical thinking. Really. I have to carefully choose my steps and easily proven facts to build on them.

The problem is that you think you can beat them with logic and science.  You can't.  They specifically don't believe the science.  (Mostly because they're terrible at it.  And at math.  Ye gods, their math is so bad...)

I've seen this thing out there that's just a list of like 200 things that they think proves the Earth is flat.  I read it.  It was ridiculous.  And I seriously thought about going through and doing the research and debunking every single last one of those things, until a friend talked me down from indulging their madness even that much.  Like most conspiracy nuts, they are stuck on a crazy theory that inflates their egos by making them think they know something that others don't.  It makes them feel superior.  If you go to them with facts, they will call you a liar, a shill, or a sheeple, and they will automatically discount everything you say because you are challenging the very thing that makes them more special than everyone else in their minds.  You could literally take them up into space and show them firsthand that the Earth is round and they will still claim that it's a lie.

It's a tug of war over a giant pit full of mud and vipers.  The only way to win is to drop the rope.

Quiver

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8 hours ago, Kaymyth said:

The problem is that you think you can beat them with logic and science.  You can't.  They specifically don't believe the science.  (Mostly because they're terrible at it.  And at math.  Ye gods, their math is so bad...)

I've seen this thing out there that's just a list of like 200 things that they think proves the Earth is flat.  I read it.  It was ridiculous.  And I seriously thought about going through and doing the research and debunking every single last one of those things, until a friend talked me down from indulging their madness even that much.  Like most conspiracy nuts, they are stuck on a crazy theory that inflates their egos by making them think they know something that others don't.  It makes them feel superior.  If you go to them with facts, they will call you a liar, a shill, or a sheeple, and they will automatically discount everything you say because you are challenging the very thing that makes them more special than everyone else in their minds.  You could literally take them up into space and show them firsthand that the Earth is round and they will still claim that it's a lie.

It's a tug of war over a giant pit full of mud and vipers.  The only way to win is to drop the rope.

Huh.

Now I want to do a story about a guy discovering the machinations of a secret society dedicated to making everyone believe that the Earth is round...

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Eki

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8 hours ago, Oversleep said:

I'll see how much more I can stand before I leave :P My purpose is noble: you can't fight them if they didn't agree on any particular theory. In previous debates when conflicted with data they fled to "but this isn't only explanation, another theory is BLAHBLAHBLAH". So I pretend to be one of them, make them choose a core set of theories which I can later disprove.

BTW, this is a fun exercise in scientifical thinking. Really. I have to carefully choose my steps and easily proven facts to build on them.

Plot twist: Everyone else is trying to do the same to you.

Oversleep

Oversleep

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2 minutes ago, Eki said:

Plot twist: Everyone else is trying to do the same to you.

Nobody else is attempting to do such thing :P There are flat-believers, trolls and people trying to prove once and for all that Earth is a globe.

Quiver

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1 minute ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

And they were DEAD THE WHOLE TIME. 

Facebook of the Dead?

The Zuckernomicon?

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TwiLyghtSansSparkles

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I'm building an original fiction world based on a side character from a fic I wrote. 

It's not looking like Mortal Instruments so far, and I'm basing it around a character of my own creation and a part of the world that was distinct enough from canon that it can be twisted and tweaked into something new....

....but I'm still a little nervous. I don't want to write another Mortal Instruments. 

But yeah. I'm doing this. Wish me luck. 

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Chaos

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On 11/17/2016 at 9:19 AM, Quiver said:

Everytime I see "AU Spoiler" on threads, I think they are talking about Cosmere Alternate Universes. :mellow:

I know. Writing Arcanum Unbounded is too long though :( So it sucks. I blame Brandon.

Also LESS POLITICS IN THIS THREAD thanks guys. 

Kaymyth

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3 hours ago, Quiver said:

Huh.

Now I want to do a story about a guy discovering the machinations of a secret society dedicated to making everyone believe that the Earth is round...

oh no please don't

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I know. Writing Arcanum Unbounded is too long though :( So it sucks. I blame Brandon.

And this reminds me of a problem I'm dealing with in my writing.  See, I had to go and be crazy and decide to interweave Eva's story around and amongst the plot threads happening during the Mistborn Era 2 books.  It's...complex, but there's an awful lot of stuff in there that's just rife for story ideas.  What happened out in the Roughs when three powerful Twinborn lawkeepers just up and left?  What are some of the other ripple effects of the Set's dealings?  Does Harmony have a back-up plan in case Wax died?  There's just so much to play with!

But I have to face the high probability that at some point, some decision I have made is going to contradict some future bit of canon.  So I can either stick my fingers in my ears and go la la la, or I can throw in a huge canon bomb that clearly delineates that Eva's story is an alternate continuity.

What I'm saying is that there's a plotline for a short story just screaming for the Doctor to show up in the TARDIS and I am really, really tempted to do this but it might be terrible.

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