Dragon314 he/him Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Since we know where allomancy and hemalurgy come from, I was wondering if anybody knows the origins of feruchemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 We know it comes from Preservation... and that's all we know. We also know it's nowhere to be found in the books, because we "didn't miss anything". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) There are more theories, i wil try to remember the mayor ones: - Surpassing a certain treeshold with Preservation Investiture and Ruin Investiture (this is the mine, you may find it in my signature) - Tapping from Lerasium (with this Theory the Lerasium works lite "Eternal Metalmind" and anyone who tap it recive Feruchemy) - Burning Lerasium to rewrite your Spirit web with Feruchemy, of course not the default outcome - Born and rise between the 2 Shards' Shardpool (Terris was quite near both the Well and the Pit) I don't remember any others, of course none of them have any king of confermation from books or WoB. Edited March 19, 2016 by Yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 When Sanderson reveals that tidbit, the Shard will go crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 When Sanderson reveals that tidbit, the Shard will go crazy. You have damnation right ... I am thinking about from years (and my first theory on the forum was about this Mysterious Origins XD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irkutsk he/him Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I was considering this, and I realized that Hoid apparently has access to feruchemy. So I wonder if it's possible that feruchemy is actually Yolish in origin, but it is powered and activated in people by the interaction of Preservation and Ruin. But the other explanation for Hoid's feruchemy could be... (BoM spoilers) The medallions from the southern Scadrians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 He probably doesn't have the capability to keep 16-32 metalminds on him at all times, besides the ones he actually stores stuff in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Stormgate, but probably he didn't need all the ablity... Some are quite useless to him and his methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSub Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 There was a WoB on Hoids apparent use of feruchemy. I don't have the quote, but Brandon implied that he May have used feruchemy but he doesnt necessarily have the ability. I believe that he is using the medallions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon314 he/him Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 There are more theories, i wil try to remember the mayor ones: - Surpassing a certain treeshold with Preservation Investiture and Ruin Investiture (this is the mine, you may find it in my signature) - Tapping from Lerasium (with this Theory the Lerasium works lite "Eternal Metalmind" and anyone who tap it recive Feruchemy) - Burning Lerasium to rewrite your Spirit web with Feruchemy, of course not the default outcome - Born and rise between the 2 Shards' Shardpool (Terris was quite near both the Well and the Pit) I don't remember any others, of course none of them have any king of confermation from books or WoB. Well the born one won't work, its in the ferris blood not the origin. My personal theory is that feruchemists are the descendants of the purelake fish 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecohansen Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Going with descent, what if the last person to ascend at the Well before Rashek was also Terris, and created ferruchemy in the same way TLR created allomancy? All of the metallic arts coud be relatively new, and the Terris prophecies could be the last remnants of the original Scadrian magic from 2 Ascensions ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoidhunter he/him Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Now...I'm terrible at hunting down WoBs and the such...but... I don't think TLR actually created allomancy, he just because aware of what Lerasium would do and how allomancy worked. This is evidenced by the fact that Elendi either was a seeker, or the earring that he wore (which were H-spikes) granted him allomantic bronze. Correct me if I'm wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Well, he did get allomancy without swallowing a single bead himself, only giving them to his supporters. So while the phrasing is screwy he has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoAjah he/him Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 If Hoid did have his own version of Feruchemy without the use of medallions etc, I think it's possible that he enabled the original Terris people to use it. Feruchemy is linked with the Worldbringers who are linked to the Worldsingers on Roshar that Hoid was the master of at least one member of, and I think of the order. There was a RAFO as to whether Hoid started both groups, and if he started the Worldbringers AND has Feruchemy, it seems unlikely that he neither taught/gave it to them or learnt it from them Other than that, I suspect that burning Atium and Lerasium together, or an alloy of the two, could potentially endow one with Feruchemy, as could, I think, going Atium savant like Elend maybe (though less likely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchoo786 Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) I've been thinking about this recently, and since Feruchemy is of both Ruin and Preservation, perhaps burning both Atium and Lerasium together? Or by burning Lerasium in some other way. But there's something different about the Terris people, they seem to be a distinct population from the rest of the Scadrial people. Even they are of both Preservation and Ruin, they never manifested allomantic abilities like the rest of the people. Even in HoA, none of the Terris people got snapped by the Mists, but if they have Preservation within them, shouldn't at least some of them snapped? Edited April 4, 2016 by uchoo786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistform Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Well the feruchemy and allomancy spirit genes interfere with each other (similar location perhaps) which caused ferrings to exist in the Wax and Wayne era (only full feruchemists existed before). Feruchemy does not seem to have different levels of strength, unlike allomancy which weakened from the original Lerasium beads. Whatever it was, it is genetic now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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