Quiver he/him Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I don't have time for season 6 thanks to work. : | I'm working until Monday, which I have to spend sleeping after Sundays shift, then working Tuesday through Friday... I like having a job, but damnation. I have no free time these days...
The Honor Spren she/her Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I don't get to see any new seasons till they come out on Netflix.
Zathoth Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 "I shall play Mario Kart 8, I havent played that in a while" ~15 minutes later~ "STORMING BLUE SHELLS! I SHALL GUT THE ONE OF YOU WHO THREW THAT RED SHELL! WHAT THE CREM LIGHTNING NOW" XD Relevant... 5
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) So, after watching the premiere for the latest season of Once Upon a Time (Mom wanted something light), I hit on something. Spoilers, if anyone cares: So, this is the season where the writers threw their hands in the air and said, "Fine! You want dark and serious, we'll send everyone to Hell! You want that? Huh? WE CAN GO AS FAR DOWN THIS ROAD AS YOU WANT!" Okay, it's not technically Hell; it's the Underworld (which actually bears little resemblance to the Underworld from Greek mythology—but that's another rant for another time) but whatever. In the pilot, they reach what's basically Purgatory, peopled by souls with "unfinished business." Stuff happens, Regina learns her mother Cora is there, more stuff happens—and Cora winds up going to "the worse place." Which is basically Hell. This is not like Greek mythology but the writers kindly invite you to shut up. So, she reaches "the worse place" and finds a man who looks a lot like a Wall Street banker, or maybe an executive for a university's bursar's office. He reveals that she was once a miller's daughter who made a deal with him, but she failed him, so he's going to change her back to what she was. FOREVER. And I'm not kidding, this was the first thing to enter my mind. And I realized something. There are many properties Disney has not tapped for this show, but there's one in particular. One property, one movie, rich in potential. Not just for greatness; no, the potential for salvation. Adding characters and world elements from this movie could save Once Upon a Time from the super-serious mass of plot holes it has become. Imagine it: Rumplestiltskin, going into a spooky graveyard at night. He ducks around tombstones, hoping Belle doesn't know he's there to meet a powerful sorceress. He hears a noise and jumps, but continues on his path when he sees it's just a fluffy white kitten. And then he hears a high-pitched and irritating voice say, "Down here, idiot." I'm telling you, it would save the show. Edited March 27, 2016 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles
Kaymyth she/her Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 So, after watching the premiere for the latest season of Once Upon a Time (Mom wanted something light), I hit on something. Spoilers, if anyone cares: So, this is the season where the writers threw their hands in the air and said, "Fine! You want dark and serious, we'll send everyone to Hell! You want that? Huh? WE CAN GO AS FAR DOWN THIS ROAD AS YOU WANT!" Okay, it's not technically Hell; it's the Underworld (which actually bears little resemblance to the Underworld from Greek mythology—but that's another rant for another time) but whatever. In the pilot, they reach what's basically Purgatory, peopled by souls with "unfinished business." Stuff happens, Regina learns her mother Cora is there, more stuff happens—and Cora winds up going to "the worse place." Which is basically Hell. This is not like Greek mythology but the writers kindly invite you to shut up. So, she reaches "the worse place" and finds a man who looks a lot like a Wall Street banker, or maybe an executive for a university's bursar's office. He reveals that she was once a miller's daughter who made a deal with him, but she failed him, so he's going to change her back to what she was. FOREVER. And I'm not kidding, this was the first thing to enter my mind. And I realized something. There are many properties Disney has not tapped for this show, but there's one in particular. One property, one movie, rich in potential. Not just for greatness; no, the potential for salvation. Adding characters and world elements from this movie could save Once Upon a Time from the super-serious mass of plot holes it has become. Imagine it: Rumplestiltskin, going into a spooky graveyard at night. He ducks around tombstones, hoping Belle doesn't know he's there to meet a powerful sorceress. He hears a noise and jumps, but continues on his path when he sees it's just a fluffy white kitten. And then he hears a high-pitched and irritating voice say, "Down here, idiot." I'm telling you, it would save the show. I am so annoyed at Hades getting tossed the villain ball yet AGAIN. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. 1
Zathoth Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I cant sleep, but at least I now know that cold pizza tastes good because the flavors starts to blend in the fridge. #6am google
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I am so annoyed at Hades getting tossed the villain ball yet AGAIN. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I rolled my eyes at that, too. Yes, Hades was the god of the dead; and yes, he was very particular about people following his rules. But he wasn't strict to be a meanie. He was strict because his job demanded it. Ruling and judging the dead is an area that demands adherence to the letter of the law, because slip-ups can easily mean chaos for the living. And really, he was actually pretty decent, so far as the Greek pantheon went. And when will Disney realize that the Greek Underworld was not Heaven-Purgatory-Hell? There were the Fields of Punishment, where people who had committed heinous crimes went; the Fields of Asphodel, where people who were neither evil nor good went; Elysium, the place where heroes lived on after death; and within Elysium there were the Isles of the Blest, where people who were reborn three times and lived heroically each time went. I'm simplifying it quite a bit, but the point is, Greek mythology and Dante's version of the afterlife are not the same thing. Edited March 27, 2016 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles
Orlion Blight he/him Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Nothing can save Once Upon a Time. They should take inspiration from another Disney movie (Old Yeller) and put it out of its misery.
Oversleep Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I cant sleep, but at least I now know that cold pizza tastes good because the flavors starts to blend in the fridge. #6am google
Edgedancer he/him Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) You will be free!FREE! Edited March 27, 2016 by Edgedancer 2
Kaymyth she/her Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I rolled my eyes at that, too. Yes, Hades was the god of the dead; and yes, he was very particular about people following his rules. But he wasn't strict to be a meanie. He was strict because his job demanded it. Ruling and judging the dead is an area that demands adherence to the letter of the law, because slip-ups can easily mean chaos for the living. And really, he was actually pretty decent, so far as the Greek pantheon went. And when will Disney realize that the Greek Underworld was not Heaven-Purgatory-Hell? There were the Fields of Punishment, where people who had committed heinous crimes went; the Fields of Asphodel, where people who were neither evil nor good went; Elysium, the place where heroes lived on after death; and within Elysium there were the Isles of the Blest, where people who were reborn three times and lived heroically each time went. I'm simplifying it quite a bit, but the point is, Greek mythology and Dante's version of the afterlife are not the same thing. Exactly! I don't get on with very many of the Greek gods, but Hades has my respect. He got handed the short end of the stick in comparison to his brothers, and he's still the one who doesn't act like a chullbrain every chance he gets. And then he has the bad luck to fall a goddess whose mother is a complete raving psychopath and proceeds to launch a smear campaign to make him into a villain. Yeah...can you tell that I don't put much stock in the most commonly told version of the Persephone story? Nothing can save Once Upon a Time. They should take inspiration from another Disney movie (Old Yeller) and put it out of its misery. But Emma's hair is still SO PRETTY.
+Slowswift Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Whether or not you're religious, one undeniable fact is that this is a storming amazing piece of music. Happy Easter! Edited March 27, 2016 by Slowswift 3
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Exactly! I don't get on with very many of the Greek gods, but Hades has my respect. He got handed the short end of the stick in comparison to his brothers, and he's still the one who doesn't act like a chullbrain every chance he gets. And then he has the bad luck to fall a goddess whose mother is a complete raving psychopath and proceeds to launch a smear campaign to make him into a villain. Yeah...can you tell that I don't put much stock in the most commonly told version of the Persephone story? But Emma's hair is still SO PRETTY. Did you read the Percy Jackson books? If so, what did you think of Hades' portrayal there? She does have very nice hair. And I'm kind of jealous of Belle's style.
Kaymyth she/her Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Did you read the Percy Jackson books? If so, what did you think of Hades' portrayal there? She does have very nice hair. And I'm kind of jealous of Belle's style. I have not. But Jim Butcher has a really good take on Hades, which I appreciate. But this hit my Facebook feed today, and it gives me warm fuzzies; https://www.facebook.com/924989640853165/photos/pcb.1148552501830210/1148547005164093/?type=3&theater 4
Oversleep Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) That's also good: (video) Edited March 28, 2016 by Oversleep
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 I can't tell which spoilers are actual spoilers, and which are just talking about greek gods or hiding videos. It's kind of fun guessing. I've read most of the spoilers, and I don't think the conversation about hades, starting from this spoiler, needs to be spoilered. You're no longer discussing Once upon a Time, you're discussing Hades. On that Note, Hades was freaking amazing. I've read a great deal of the original mythology, and I agree with you guys that he gets a bad rap for no good reason. And I'm so glad there are other Dresden Fans on this site @Kaymyth.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I can't tell which spoilers are actual spoilers, and which are just talking about greek gods or hiding videos. It's kind of fun guessing. I've read most of the spoilers, and I don't think the conversation about hades, starting from this spoiler, needs to be spoilered. You're no longer discussing Once upon a Time, you're discussing Hades. On that Note, Hades was freaking amazing. I've read a great deal of the original mythology, and I agree with you guys that he gets a bad rap for no good reason. And I'm so glad there are other Dresden Fans on this site @Kaymyth. I still need to start the Dresden books. But yeah, I'm with both of you on Hades. I tend to think most of his bad reputation came from his line of work—which, it should be pointed out, was absolutely necessary and rather thankless. In most of his stories, he's rather fair—strict, but fair. He was faithful to Persephone and wasn't in the habit of sending good people to Punishment for petty reasons—something that, I feel compelled to point out, almost certainly would've happened more often if Zeus or Poseidon had been in charge of the Underworld. 1
Zathoth Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I still need to start the Dresden books. But yeah, I'm with both of you on Hades. I tend to think most of his bad reputation came from his line of work—which, it should be pointed out, was absolutely necessary and rather thankless. In most of his stories, he's rather fair—strict, but fair. He was faithful to Persephone and wasn't in the habit of sending good people to Punishment for petty reasons—something that, I feel compelled to point out, almost certainly would've happened more often if Zeus or Poseidon had been in charge of the Underworld. You really do Jim at least does his research, unlike another certain popular fantasy author... If Zeus had been in charge of the underworld he would have snusnu'd everything who died and we would have a lot more weird things running around. Because that is basically all of Greek mythology. Zeus cant keep the lightning in his toga and something weird gets born as a result. ... would that count as necrophilia or not?... 3
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 You really do Jim at least does his research, unlike another certain popular fantasy author... If Zeus had been in charge of the underworld he would have snusnu'd everything who died and we would have a lot more weird things running around. Because that is basically all of Greek mythology. Zeus cant keep the lightning in his toga and something weird gets born as a result. ... would that count as necrophilia or not?... A good bit of it can be summed up with a single line from a FilmCow video: "You don't want to see Zeus when he's angry. This guy gets pretty naked when he's angry." 3
Oversleep Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 You really do Jim at least does his research, unlike another certain popular fantasy author... Am I supposed to know who is this other author from context? Am I missing out on something?
Zathoth Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 A good bit of it can be summed up with a single line from a FilmCow video: "You don't want to see Zeus when he's angry. This guy gets pretty naked when he's angry." Or happy, or just because. It is a wonder he even bothers getting dressing. Great, Im insulting the God of lightning on internet. Guess I shouldnt go outside for a while... or maybe ask Her Erisness for some help... not that she will help me, unless the the following Discord will bring her more amusement than me getting hit by lightning... Am I supposed to know who is this other author from context? Am I missing out on something? You probably missed the discussion on Rowling not doing her research on american history/mythology.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) You probably missed the discussion on Rowling not doing her research on american history/mythology. She didn't even mention the American Revolution! That's, like, 50 percent of our whole history right there. It's where one of our biggest and most explosive holidays comes from (pun intended). According to her canon, wizarding Britain just sort of let wizarding America go their own way when they wanted independence. They just let them form MACUSA and do their own thing. Which, okay, if you want that to happen, go ahead, but give us Americans a reason why wizarding Britain did that. Give us a reason why wizarding America didn't rebel. We'd prefer if it were a good reason, but if the reason's there, we'll give you partial credit. Edited March 28, 2016 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles
Zathoth Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 She didn't even mention the American Revolution! That's, like, 50 percent of our whole history right there. It's where one of our biggest and most explosive holidays comes from (pun intended). According to her canon, wizarding Britain just sort of let wizarding America go their own way when they wanted independence. They just let them form MACUSA and do their own thing. Which, okay, if you want that to happen, go ahead, but give us Americans a reason why wizarding Britain did that. Give us a reason why wizarding America didn't rebel. We'd prefer if it were a good reason, but if the reason's there, we'll give you partial credit. Even I know about that... She should seriously have done some research before writing all of that XD
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