Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming

[Master Elodin]

I did kill STINK.

[Clanky he/him]

So PK is claiming IN THE THREAD to have killed STINK(the one eliminator we're aware of), and he posts stating he's gonna be inactive this Cycle, so you all vote on him? I'm sorry, this doesn't make any sense to me. I personally believe his claim, just because it was in the thread, rather than a PM. I'd like to know how PK knows what Jerle is claiming though, because I don't remember hearing about his role anywhere.

 

I too would like to hear what Jerle has to say. Since we now know that Mailliw was(is?) a Greenseer, he can tell us if he claimed to have attacked STINK or not. However, I've received a message this Cycle, so that can't happen for now. It doesn't hold any meaning for me, but here's the message: "Trollololl" I got this message literally only a couple minutes after the Cycle started.

Maill told him that there was another claim in thread. I assume he then PMd maill to get the name since I don't see Maill actually saying who it was but PK does find out.  The reason I voted for PK was that I am more suspicious of him then Jerle, and if he is 24 hours from when he said he would be inactive then he should be back before the cycle is over to defend himself. However the more I think about this the more confused I get as to why two people would claim the kill?

 

Option 1: One of them is a traitor who decided they would be more trusted if somebody thought they killed STINK. Unlikely unless they are a shadowbinder as well in case someone stewarded them. 

 

Option 2: Both are loyal shadowbinders who just happened to decide on killing STINK at the same time. Looking more and more correct to me. 

 

Option 3: Both traitors who decided to go literally insane.    Idunno, can anyone think why this would be make sense?

 

Paranoid King. I will however move my vote on to Jerle for now. Your thoughts on the matter would be very much appreciated beyond one sentence. 

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Maill told him that there was another claim in thread. I assume he then PMd maill to get the name since I don't see Maill actually saying who it was but PK does find out.  The reason I voted for PK was that I am more suspicious of him then Jerle, and if he is 24 hours from when he said he would be inactive then he should be back before the cycle is over to defend himself. However the more I think about this the more confused I get as to why two people would claim the kill?

 

Option 1: One of them is a traitor who decided they would be more trusted if somebody thought they killed STINK. Unlikely unless they are a shadowbinder as well in case someone stewarded them. 

 

Option 2: Both are loyal shadowbinders who just happened to decide on killing STINK at the same time. Looking more and more correct to me. 

 

Option 3: Both traitors who decided to go literally insane.    Idunno, can anyone think why this would be make sense?

 

Paranoid King. I will however move my vote on to Jerle for now. Your thoughts on the matter would be very much appreciated beyond one sentence. 

 

Emphasis mine

 

Possible reason why Strawman was killed by the Traitors? Because a Traitor lied about their role?

 

Option 2 seems pretty unlikely to me. I didn't notice anything really off about STINK, so for 2 separate players, who just happen to have the role of Shadowbinder, to be confident enough in their suspicion of STINK to kill him on Cycle 1 just doesn't sound right to me at all.

 

Option 3, just, no. That would be insane, especially with the possibility of Greenseers, which allows for information from the dead, so that would most definitely backfire on them.

[Paranoid King he/him]

I'm back!

The only way both Jerle and I are both telling the truth is if Jerle was feeling confident enough to kill stink on the first cycle, but not confident enough to try killing anyone on future cycles. The way I see it, I've been trying to prove my point, while he's been relying on his friends to support him. And that would make me suspicious of him in any circumstance.

Last cycle, someone called me out because I revealed in thread, and he never trusts people who try to make it democratic like that. Have I once asked for options on who to kill? Have I accepted any? Revealing myself in thread was a mistake, because I thought my kill had gone through. I assure you, I have no intentions of making my kill democratic.

In conclusion, I'm voting on Jerle. I'm short on time now, but I will be looking back at previous cycles for my other suspicions.

Edited February 28, 2016 by Paranoid King

[Master Elodin]

The first day when I voted for Mark, I killed STINK. The other days I didn't vote for the right person, and as I am usually not on until 4 PM, which is a pretty long time after rollover. I wanted to use my ability, so I chose STINK, who had, in my opinion, been flying under the radar.

[Elbereth she/her]

Sorry for my inactivity yesterday. I... I literally had time, but thought "no, I'll do it in a while. There's still time in the cycle." even though I knew the cycle was ending early. I was a bit of an idiot there.

A couple of things that I was going to say last cycle.

The reason no one else healed Maill is pretty obvious, really. If someone else heals him, it doesn't prove Alv at all. So of course they wouldn't heal him. I'm not sure why no one else pointed this out. Too late now, I guess.

Also, I still haven't received an explanation from Sart or anyone else why there have to be two other Acolytes (besides Alv), just because he was healed of a Fatal Wound in one cycle. Did I miss something there?

The reason for Jerle and PK to both be traitors would be clearing the other if one died. Not likely, but not insane, I'd say.

I have no opinion on who's more likely to be an actual Shadowbinder, and I have to leave soon, so I probably won't be voting this cycle. Sorry!

[Clanky he/him]

Sorry for my inactivity yesterday. I... I literally had time, but thought "no, I'll do it in a while. There's still time in the cycle." even though I knew the cycle was ending early. I was a bit of an idiot there.

A couple of things that I was going to say last cycle.

The reason no one else healed Maill is pretty obvious, really. If someone else heals him, it doesn't prove Alv at all. So of course they wouldn't heal him. I'm not sure why no one else pointed this out. Too late now, I guess.

 Also, I still haven't received an explanation from Sart or anyone else why there have to be two other Acolytes (besides Alv), just because he was healed of a Fatal Wound in one cycle. Did I miss something there?

The reason for Jerle and PK to both be traitors would be clearing the other if one died. Not likely, but not insane, I'd say.

I have no opinion on who's more likely to be an actual Shadowbinder, and I have to leave soon, so I probably won't be voting this cycle. Sorry!

When someone is healed once from a fatal wound they are upgraded to just wounded. A wounded player who receives a second fatal wound dies. However if a wounded player is healed again then they go back to healthy and are back to normal. Sart went directly from Fatal Wound to fully healed meaning he had to have been targeted twice by a acolyte that cycle.

 

The problem with Jerle and PK both being traitors is that it would only clear them as long as nobody ever scans their role and finds out they are not a Shadowbinder. Also given that there was a shadowbinder who killed STINK that would mean that either there is another loyal shadowbinder who actually killed STINK and knows they both are lying, they killed a member of their own team on purpose or a skinchanger changed the target of their kill to STINK but nobody has claimed to have any part in doing that so I doubt it. 

[Master Elodin]

As Paranoid King seems dead set on getting me lynched, and his reasons for voting for me are less than good, I will have to vote for him.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Here's my case against Jerle.

 

Firstly, his voting has seemed odd to me, especially the first Cycle stuff with Strawman, in which he defends him from votes, and then when I question him about it, he votes on him for basically no reason. He seems to be following others votes a lot as well, rather than picking his own targets.

 

Next, the Shadowbinder situation. I'll lay out why I think PK is telling the truth, and Jerle is lying. Jerle claims to Mailliw in a PM on Cycle 2 I think, but at the latest Cycle 3. Strawman, a claiming Steward, who is under quite a bit of suspicion in the thread and was almost lynched, gets killed by the Traitors Cycle 2. PK reveals he's a Shadowbinder in the thread on Cycle 3. Mailliw reveals that he is aware of a Shadowbinder(Jerle). PK then goes after Jerle. Jerle doesn't do anything about the situation. This Cycle, PK had 3 votes on him, and yet Jerle doesn't vote on him or challenge him at all about his claim. If I had killed an eliminator, and then someone counter-claimed me trying to take credit for my kill, I would most definitely be questioning them and would probably try to kill them(as PK claimed to have tried). Jerle has done none of that, and even though he's voting on PK now, it's more out of necessity than anything, and he even seems hesitant to do so. PK on the other hand HAS gone after Jerle quite vocally and claims to have attacked him on Cycle 4, I think? That's my opinion on the matter.

 

Edit: Vote tally.

 

Jerle(3): Lopen, Clanky, PK

PK(3): Orlok, Kipper, Jerle

Orlok(1): Sart

Edited February 28, 2016 by TheMightyLopen

[Master Elodin]

The only reason that I didn't vote for PK when he had 3 votes on him was because I wasn't on yet. I didn't reveal my position as shadowbinder on the thread because I assumed that you weren't supposed to just reveal your role to everyone.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

The only reason that I didn't vote for PK when he had 3 votes on him was because I wasn't on yet. I didn't reveal my position as shadowbinder on the thread because I assumed that you weren't supposed to just reveal your role to everyone.

 

Well you posted twice before you finally voted on him, as well as the fact that you haven't really posted that much about how it's odd or suspicious that he's claiming the same thing as you in the past 2 or 3 Cycles.

 

It's not that revealing in a PM is suspicious, it's that another player has claimed the same role with the same results(killing STINK) in the thread, which seems to me to be more like a Loyal move rather than a lying eliminator, since if you lie in the thread, the real Shadowbinder will know you're lying, but if you claim in a PM, it would be easier to get away with a lie if you confined your reveal to a PM.

[Amanuensis he/him]

Kipper's Fatal Wound was retracted again (cursed mod queue) and there's 15 minutes left until the chapter closes.

Edited February 28, 2016 by Adavantos

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Paranoid King.

Jelre.

 

Apologies, but its more important we find out who was lying here.

[Amanuensis he/him]

Chapter 5 is now closed! Please do not post or send any PMs until the next thread is posted.

[Amanuensis he/him]

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Epilogue: A Taste of Glory

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Maximum Starkness was a Giant-Blooded Skinchanger!
Joss Stilwood was a Warg!
Noah Stone was burned on a pyre, but not before confessing his sins! He was a Ranger!
Luna Arryn died to her wounds!
Baldo Buggins was killed by a Warg!
 

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[1] Orr Locke: Oswin Snow
[2] Baldo Buggins: Kipper Pyke, Noah Stone, 
[4] Noah Stone: To B. Determined, Caln Sand, Paranoid King, Orr Locke

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1. TheMightyLopen: To B. Determined Builder
2. Kynedath: Gaera Skor'Gaera Gold Cloak
3. Curious Anamaximder: Maximum Starkness Warg
4. Alvron: Joss Stilwood Giant-Blooded Skinchanger
5. Mailliw73: Maddox Magguns Giant-Blooded Greenseer
6. Elbereth: Elbereth Gilthoniel Oldtown Acolyte
7. IrulelikeSTINK: Reek, Reek, it rhymes with Geek Stoneman
8. Mark IV: Maxicos the Cutter Ranger
9. Sart: Oswin Snow Ranger
10. Paranoid King: Baldo Buggins Shadowbinder
11. Kipper: Kipper Pyke Giant-Blooded Master's Apprentice
12. JerleShannara: Noah Stone Ranger
13. ThatTinyStrawMan: He is a Stick Steward
14. OrlokTsubodai: Orr Locke Red Priest
15. Clanky: Caln Sand Oldtown Acolyte
16. DeathClutch19: Artemis Lannister Skinchanger
17. LUNA: Luna Arryn Warg

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And that's all she wrote, folks! Congratulations to the good guys for their swift victory. Write ups for Chapter 4, 5 and the Epilogue (which will include a battle between the survivors and the Others) will come as soon as I can get them done. I will also add some commentary from my perspective as the GM around the same time.

Before I end this, there is something I want to point out. Paranoid King's inability to make kills after the first were not because they were blocked, but because the rules state that the player he votes for needs to die to the lynch. Both Mailliw and Alvron were Giant-Blooded, so that didn't exactly occur. However, if they did succeed, you guys would have won awhile ago, since his targets were Anamax and Jerle respectively. So yeah; pro tip future GMs, never give PK a village kill role unless you can find a way to balance it.

Edited November 5, 2016 by Alvron

[STINK he/him]

GG I guess

[Clanky he/him]

Well I didn't quite expect that. Good game everyone and thanks for GMing Ada. Mostly way to go PK, every one of your attempted attacks were at traitors?!

 

So what does a Masters Apprentice get to do Kipper?

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Thanks for GMing, Ada!

 

Wow, PK, you were on the money every time! I tried using my message to even the scales back up for the eliminators, but Lopen wouldn't have gotten my message about Clanky being evil until this cycle. 

Edited February 29, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Clanky he/him]

Thanks for GMing, Ada!

 

Wow, PK, you were on the money every time! I tried using my message to even the scales back up for the eliminators, but Lopen wouldn't have gotten my message about Clanky being evil until this cycle. 

Hey! I had already died once no need to try and get me killed again!

[Paranoid King he/him]

That's awesome. I was planning to come here and apologize for not sending in a kill action, but we won instead! Hurray!

Edit: just out of curiosity, how many cycles did we have left in the game?

Edit 2: wait a minute, Wargs only give fatal wounds! That means I'm still alive, right? right?

Edited February 28, 2016 by Paranoid King

[Curious Anamaximder he/him]

That's awesome. I was planning to come here and apologize for not sending in a kill action, but we won instead! Hurray!

Edit: just out of curiosity, how many cycles did we have left in the game?

Edit 2: wait a minute, Wargs only give fatal wounds! That means I'm still alive, right? right?

Sorry. I killed you with my Warg.

[Paranoid King he/him]

Sorry. I killed you with my Warg.

Oh, that's right. If you die, they kill someone, otherwise, they can give a fatal wound. Ah well. Baldo buggis has met his fate. If anyone manages to find his ring, I'd suggest they throw it into a volcano. You know, to commemorate him. Not because the ring is evil or anything.

[Curious Anamaximder he/him]

GG everyone!

[Guest]

Well I didn't quite expect that. Good game everyone and thanks for GMing Ada. Mostly way to go PK, every one of your attempted attacks were at traitors?!

 

So what does a Masters Apprentice get to do Kipper?

Ah, we do some pro apprenticing! That's about it.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

GGWP everyone