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[Secret History] Cephandrius


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That was a particularly interesting name drop, wasn't it?

 

So now we've collected another one of his arsenal of names, this time from Leras. I have a feeling this is an intermediate pseudonym from before he decided to be Hoid, as those of you who read the Liar sample chapters will probably remember him using a completely different name even earlier.

 

Makes you wonder though, is changing your name and appearance so effective against Shards? We definitely know now that if they got suspicious and tried to touch him, they'd figure out who he is.

 

edit: hah, confused my shards for a minute there.

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Ceph makes me think of octopi (cephalopods), or ancient kings (Cepheus). So, clearly Hoid used to be the Octopus King.

 

Yeah, you could interpret Cephandrius to mean squid-man, lol, given the meaning of the root "andro" in general.

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We actually knew he used this name before, and that it isn't his real name either. Peter gave us the full name (Cephandrius Maxtori) in this thread here:

 

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/45901-shadows-of-self-byu-midnight-signing/page-2

 

And I'm pretty sure I remember seeing it a long time ago in some old threads related to Liar but don't remember exactly where, so it seems to be a name that Brandon's been using for a while. Still tells us nothing useful unfortunately!

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"Cephandrius" reminds me of Cephas, which means rock in Aramaic and is the name of one of the Apostles. I'd guess Cephandrius Maxtori is a reference to Hoid's other psuedonym Topaz, which he alluded to as "a rock" in WoK.

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Literal meaning:

Cephas=rock (as referenced by skaa above)

Andrius=brave (from Greek)

so Brave rock or stone

 

Or, if Brandon really wanted to troll us with Chrsitianity-inspired parallels: Peter (rock) and Andrew - who, if I remember correctly, were brothers.

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The first time I saw the name, I immediately thought it was evocative of the words for "head" and "man" and was possibly a sort of reference to him being tied to the Cognitive Realm. Obviously Greek, etc, don't exist in the Cosmere, but Brandon often chooses names that are evocative of things that are similar real-world concepts, like Adonalsium resembles Adonai, or Moelach is very close to Moloch. It seems likely (or at least possible) that the meaning is intentional.

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"Cephandrius" reminds me of Cephas, which means rock in Aramaic

 Well ... yes. But the Anglicized version usually isn't spelled that was. It's somewhat unpronounceable for an American tongue, as the syllables don't usually come up. I'd spell it as tzephas. Don't try pronouncing that, please.

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 Well ... yes. But the Anglicized version usually isn't spelled that way. It's somewhat unpronounceable for an American tongue, as the syllables don't usually come up. I'd spell it as tzephas. Don't try pronouncing that, please.

 

I've read several Bible editions that use the spelling "Cephas". That is even the spelling used in the English Wikipedia article on Peter. Anyway, I'm not quite sure what your point is. I'm Filipino, and we have our own way of pronouncing Cephas (something like "sepas"). Americans like Brandon might have one, too. Brandon may or may not be able to pronounce it in the "correct" Aramaic way, but people have been incorporating foreign languages in their made up words/names with their own pronunciations for a very long time now.

 

(Not that I'm absolutely positive that Cephandrius came from the Aramaic word, mind you. I'm just confused by your argument.)

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