tobar14 he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I was just re-reading shadows of self and a part stuck out to me. When Marasi is talking to Aradel in the constables office or whatever you call it, it mentions that Aradel takes a sip of something extremely hot and doesn't even care. It also mentions that he is known to do this. Could Claude Aradel be a Firesoul? 2
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 A red head that constantly drinks hot things without noting their heat? I'll be shocked if he doesn't end up a Firesoul. Great idea! 1
Tellingdwar he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Guy who's been drinking scorching hot coffee for so long he doesn't even notice anymore? I've met that guy. I thought it was odd when I first read it, but the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Brandon is just getting better at leaving red herrings. 1
DeadFencer Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Ferring? More like red herring. I'm so sorry. 3
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 While I do like the idea in the OP still, it might be true that Claude Aradel is just a Red Hairing... 1
king of nowhere Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 It seems every time some character displays some unusual trait some thread will pop up speculating that he's a magic user. Putting aside that, there is no story reason for aradel to be a feruchemist, and plenty of reasons for him not to be one. It is said at the end of the book that he's the first governor who's not a noble, so if it was revealed that he still comes from some privileged bloodline, it would undermine that. 1
tobar14 he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 It seems every time some character displays some unusual trait some thread will pop up speculating that he's a magic user. Putting aside that, there is no story reason for aradel to be a feruchemist, and plenty of reasons for him not to be one. It is said at the end of the book that he's the first governor who's not a noble, so if it was revealed that he still comes from some privileged bloodline, it would undermine that. Yeah, I agree that its probably just a red herring, and I'm sorry for being "that sharder" who over speculates on potential magic users. It was just burning in my mind and this is my only outlet to talk about the cosmere. Also, just thought it would be cool to see some different types of ferrings that aren't super powerful or involved with the main plot line. Question: Are people with Terris blood considered to be noble/privileged bloodline? If not, then Aradel being a ferring would not undermine the whole "first governor who's not a noble".
DeadFencer Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Yeah no that's not right. The Terris, where feruchemical ability comes from, aren't noble. Even allomancy, which comes from nobles, isn't really linked to nobles anymore because of the dilution of blood. Look at how many allomamcers there were when Preservation started snapping people at the end of the final empire, and that was when nobles couldn't marry non-nobles. 1
Pechvarry Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Ferring? More like red herring. Claude Aradel is just a Red Hairing... ...Red Fairing. I'm not good at this.
Khyrindor he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Watch this devolve into a pun thread lol
DreamEternal Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Question: Are people with Terris blood considered to be noble/privileged bloodline? If not, then Aradel being a ferring would not undermine the whole "first governor who's not a noble". Having magic in your bloodline is still a privilege, you know... 1
king of nowhere Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Having magic in your bloodline is still a privilege, you know... that's exactly what i meant. i'd be happier with aradel as a normal guy
tobar14 he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 What can a Firesoul even do? Obviously I know what it does, but I feel like its on par with being a duralamin gnat, you can't really do much with it, so basically he is still normal.
Kaymyth she/her Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Watch this devolve into a pun thread lol All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 What can a Firesoul even do? Obviously I know what it does, but I feel like its on par with being a duralamin gnat, you can't really do much with it, so basically he is still normal. Way more useful than that... You can survive freezing temperatures (arctic, north atlantic water, space) by tapping your metalmind. Theories are out there that would allow you to become semi-fireproof by storing heat as you walked through/touched flames.
natc Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah no that's not right. The Terris, where feruchemical ability comes from, aren't noble. Even allomancy, which comes from nobles, isn't really linked to nobles anymore because of the dilution of blood. Look at how many allomamcers there were when Preservation started snapping people at the end of the final empire, and that was when nobles couldn't marry non-nobles. Well there would already be allomantic blood in the Skaa to begin with since the Deepness (and mist-snappings) predates lerasium-laced nobility. If the Well has charged multiple times before then it's possible that allomantic blood in Northern Scadrial is actually pretty ancient, just at levels normally too weak to manifest without the Mists.
tobar14 he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Author Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Way more useful than that... You can survive freezing temperatures (arctic, north atlantic water, space) by tapping your metalmind. Theories are out there that would allow you to become semi-fireproof by storing heat as you walked through/touched flames. Yes, I know what it can do. I was merely stating that someone being a Firesoul wouldn't really upset people in terms of too many characters being too powerful. The powers of a Firesoul are cool, but in terms of combat or stuff like that its not useful. In terms of self preservation and survival it is pretty cool. Someone earlier said that they wouldn't want Aradel to have magic because he is supposed to be a normal (not overly powered) Governor. My point was that being a Firesoul wouldn't make that much of a difference. Edited January 22, 2016 by tobar14
DeadFencer Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 The powers of a Firesoul are cool, but in terms of combat or stuff like that its not useful.Well presumably you can burn people by touching them, which would be useful
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 I do get the concern/desire for more Dox like characters who are amazing at what they do, integral to the plot/story, but at the same time just ordinary people with no magic... that said, I really like this idea and would love Aradel to be a firesoul 1
tobar14 he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Author Posted January 22, 2016 Well presumably you can burn people by touching them, which would be useful I could definitely see that being useful for field medicine. Kaladin would be able to cauterize hella wounds. 1
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah but just because you can store and draw upon heat wouldn't protect you from it. You could burn people by touching them, yes, but you would also be burning yourself.
Pathfinder Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah but just because you can store and draw upon heat wouldn't protect you from it. You could burn people by touching them, yes, but you would also be burning yourself. Last I heard there is a bit of a debate on that. Some feel like how with other ferrings, there are certain innate boons you have to deal with the ability (such as when you increase your weight, your body becomes personally denser so as not to crush your own bones and organs). So that camp feels you would be mostly immune to your own body heat. But they admit it would not count for setting your clothing on fire, melting the metal minds, and causing the air to be so hot as to suffocate you. The other camp feels as you do.
Stormgate he/him Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Watch this devolve into a pun thread lol Two words: Red Ferring
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