Question 18

[Edgedancer he/him]

I don't think so, I assume those know better, just some bookstore or library that got an early shipment probably.

Yikes, Brandon seems to have trouble with spoilers lately. First Amazon leaks the last chapter of BoM including the secret history anouncement and now this. Anyway, I'm sorry Voidus that has to suck. (Although this would be rather early for a bookstore.)

Would it help if you WHOOC Nighthound's death?

[Stormgate he/him]

I am officially giving warriormark Neutrality to manipulate, kill, try to conquer, whatever.

[Mestiv he/him]

An ARC reader, I presume?

 

Who's\What's an ARC reader?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Who's\What's an ARC reader?

Someone who gets an early copy of the book to review it. ARC=Advance Reader Copy.

[Mestiv he/him]

Well, maybe that topic was created by a troll of some kind and is not a spoiler at all? Don't worry Voidus, there is still hope!

[The Swan Dragon he/him]

I have a question about posting on a What Happened In *Blank*. I've noticed that while people are writing from one character's viewpoint, they are still using other characters in each post, instead of it being mostly between RP'ers. How does that work? Are they (with permission) borrowing another person's character? Are they using another character of theirs? Or are they just making a temporary character for that/a few scene(s)?

 

For example, Brute appearing to fight Ragnarok in Astoria.

 

Thanks!

 

Bai!

~Wpx

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I have a question about posting on a What Happened In *Blank*. I've noticed that while people are writing from one character's viewpoint, they are still using other characters in each post, instead of it being mostly between RP'ers. How does that work? Are they (with permission) borrowing another person's character? Are they using another character of theirs? Or are they just making a temporary character for that/a few scene(s)?

 

Sometimes, yes. Other times, no. 

 

Players often include other players' characters in their posts to write about their actions from their own character's perspective. For example, if I write that Funtimes giggled and turned Lightwards' coffee cup into a smiley-face-shaped pillow, Kobold could then include those actions in his next post, where he writes Lightwards' thoughts on it. It's a good way for players to develop their characters and to show how they see the same events from different perspectives. 

 

Other times, keeping action and reaction posts between characters separate would result in posts that are a line or two each. So players will collaborate through PMs, asking other players for their characters' reactions to their character's actions. It streamlines things and makes posts easier to read. 

[The Swan Dragon he/him]

Sometimes, yes. Other times, no. 

 

Players often include other players' characters in their posts to write about their actions from their own character's perspective. For example, if I write that Funtimes giggled and turned Lightwards' coffee cup into a smiley-face-shaped pillow, Kobold could then include those actions in his next post, where he writes Lightwards' thoughts on it. It's a good way for players to develop their characters and to show how they see the same events from different perspectives. 

 

Other times, keeping action and reaction posts between characters separate would result in posts that are a line or two each. So players will collaborate through PMs, asking other players for their characters' reactions to their character's actions. It streamlines things and makes posts easier to read. 

Ok. That makes a lo more sense...though I come from RP forums where we pretty much did one liners. Just...a lot of them. XD

 

Thanks!

 

Bai!

~Wpx

[Mestiv he/him]

It is also fine to use characters that you control, that are not POV characters. I "own" Drainer, but he'll never be a POV character and I guess if anyone wanted to include him in his story they would consult me.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

It is also fine to use characters that you control, that are not POV characters. I "own" Drainer, but he'll never be a POV character and I guess if anyone wanted to include him in his story they would consult me.

 

Right. For a while, Funtimes wasn't a POV character (because I was still trying to get inside her head ). If anyone wanted to write something she did, or ask if something they wanted her to do was in character, they'd consult me on that. 

[Edgedancer he/him]

I am officially giving warriormark Neutrality to manipulate, kill, try to conquer, whatever.

On that topic, there isn't a profile for for him, which should be added. Now by warriormark I guess.

 

I have a question about posting on a What Happened In *Blank*. I've noticed that while people are writing from one character's viewpoint, they are still using other characters in each post, instead of it being mostly between RP'ers. How does that work? Are they (with permission) borrowing another person's character? Are they using another character of theirs? Or are they just making a temporary character for that/a few scene(s)?

 

For example, Brute appearing to fight Ragnarok in Astoria.

 

Thanks!

 

Bai!

~Wpx

Threre sometimes are also collabs where each player writes a couple of lines for their character and then they get posted as a larger segment to keep the post count down a bit, although I'm pretty sure that Brute was just a character he made up for that post.

 

On that note, warriormarck, how did that battle, as well as the characters involved, take place in relations to Astoria proper? Also, that Antimatter segemnt mentioned Renegade but if I remember right you wanted to scrap him.

[The Swan Dragon he/him]

It is also fine to use characters that you control, that are not POV characters. I "own" Drainer, but he'll never be a POV character and I guess if anyone wanted to include him in his story they would consult me.

Ok. Just out of curiosity, what are Drainer's powers? 

 

Right. For a while, Funtimes wasn't a POV character (because I was still trying to get inside her head ). If anyone wanted to write something she did, or ask if something they wanted her to do was in character, they'd consult me on that. 

Alright.

 

Threre sometimes are also collabs where each player writes a couple of lines for their character and then they get posted as a larger segment to keep the post count down a bit, although I'm pretty sure that Brute was just a character he made up for that post.

Ok. That makes sense.

 

Thanks to all of you! 

 

Bai!

~Wpx

[Elithanathile he/him]

bold: his weakness is swords/knives, but he is a swordsman? I don't quite think that works. He is literally holding the thing that trigger his fear. He is carrying his weakness around with him at all times. That is not a thing that an Epic would really do, ever. 

My suggestion, since his sword-wielding is awesome and all, just change his weakness.

 

Its funny how similar this Epic is to one of my Wastelands Epics- Warplock. Great minds think alike, eh?

 

As to the location, I'm not sure. He sounds tough enough to survive in Astoria, and thus any other city. 

His weakness isn't being near swords, it's that his portals don't automatically defend against them. So if his tripped or something, and impaled himself with his own sword, then yeah, he'd die. But he's skilled enough to not do that. It's like his power is split into two parts, the part he consciously uses, and the automatic defense system.

 

What all can the portals do? Just redirect moving objects, like in Portal, or are they capable of more? 

I haven't put too much thought into this character yet, I literally thought him up last night, but right now, I think he's powerful enough with them just moving objects. Did you have anything in mind that they could do?

 

And on that Note, what happens if they get hit by something larger than them?

Usually, objects bigger than them are thought of, to borrow a cosmere term, as one cognitive entity. So it wouldn't teleport part of it, and nothing would be teleported. So no teleporting buildings or anything. And also Falchion has to be able to see where the portals are when he places them, so he couldn't have them appear inside somebody or something, just for the record.

 

Other small things is that while the shape of the portals is mostly restricted to circles or ovals, he can adjust the shape of it, (long, short, etc.) so long as the area stays about the same. So he could create a portal that has the same surface area as himself, and then make it really tall and thin for whatever reason. Another thing that he can do with them is use them to spy, because he can make an incredibly small one, place it in somebody's room/palace thingy, and then later hook up a larger one to it, activating it, and he would be able to see through it. Portals are inactive while unlinked, and he can't have multiple portals linked up to the same one. Think of it as an invertible function.

 

Last random things: Falchion Punch!!! And the fact that I hadn't seen Warplock, so let me know if my characters powers are too similar, and I can try and change them. I also have never played/seen either of the portal games, and just have a basic knowledge of how their portals work. They did not inspire this character. (That I know of.)

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

His weakness isn't being near swords, it's that his portals don't automatically defend against them. So if his tripped or something, and impaled himself with his own sword, then yeah, he'd die. But he's skilled enough to not do that. It's like his power is split into two parts, the part he consciously uses, and the automatic defense system.

 

I haven't put too much thought into this character yet, I literally thought him up last night, but right now, I think he's powerful enough with them just moving objects. Did you have anything in mind that they could do?

 

No offense, but that sounds like loophole abuse—comparable to if Sanderson had said "Steelheart's weakness is someone who isn't afraid of him—but if they're afraid of his powers, but not him personally, then it wouldn't trigger his weakness." Either nix the swordsman idea, or give him a different weakness. 

 

I didn't. 

[Elithanathile he/him]

No offense, but that sounds like loophole abuse—comparable to if Sanderson had said "Steelheart's weakness is someone who isn't afraid of him—but if they're afraid of his powers, but not him personally, then it wouldn't trigger his weakness." Either nix the swordsman idea, or give him a different weakness. 

 

I didn't. 

Gotcha. It does seem a little finicky if I think about it. Does the weakness have to be an item, or could it be some kind of action? Like getting punched or something, but the fist doesn't neutralize it. (Not actual weakness, just an example.)

 

I'm not making his weakness be guns, I know that... What if he's afraid of snakes? That's a perfectly normal fear. Say he got bit by a king snake as a child, and they had to do heart surgery or something.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Gotcha. It does seem a little finicky if I think about it. Does the weakness have to be an item, or could it be some kind of action? Like getting punched or something, but the fist doesn't neutralize it. (Not actual weakness, just an example.)

 

I'm not making his weakness be guns, I know that... What if he's afraid of snakes? That's a perfectly normal fear. Say he got bit by a king snake as a child, and they had to do heart surgery or something.

 

It can be just about anything, if David is to be believed. Steelheart's was a state of mind in someone else; Fortuity's was an action; Nightweilder's was something in nature; Newton's was a type of phrase. 

[Elithanathile he/him]

In that case, I'll probably have his weakness be not having a sword around. I can just twist his backstory a little, and say that he would be randomly attacked by his father around the house, and if he didn't have his sword, he couldn't defend himself. And he eventually became traumatized by it.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

In that case, I'll probably have his weakness be not having a sword around. I can just twist his backstory a little, and say that he would be randomly attacked by his father around the house, and if he didn't have his sword, he couldn't defend himself. And he eventually became traumatized by it.

 

Self-defense against his father is plausible; needing a sword to defend himself is not. Maybe something that equates to helplessness? One of my backstory Epics had an abusive stepfather, and his weakness was having his hands pinned to a wall. Something like that? 

[Elithanathile he/him]

His father wasn't exactly abusive, just obsessive about training Dirk with the sword, and the surprise attacks were a part of that. People learn best and fastest in life-or-death situations, that kind of thing. It wasn't exactly a life or death situation, but he was in legitimate danger.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

His father wasn't exactly abusive, just obsessive about training Dirk with the sword, and the surprise attacks were a part of that. People learn best and fastest in life-or-death situations, that kind of thing. It wasn't exactly a life or death situation, but he was in legitimate danger.

 

It still seems a little farfetched. Maybe there's something more common that Dirk's father could've been obsessed with? Boxing? Krav Maga? 

[Mestiv he/him]

Ok. Just out of curiosity, what are Drainer's powers? 

 

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/15990-epics-of-oregon/?p=297094

[The Swan Dragon he/him]

http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/15990-epics-of-oregon/?p=297094

Thanks! He seems pretty cool.

 

Bai!

~Wpx

[Elithanathile he/him]

I want to have his weakness be something to do with swords, as that is basically his character, and I want his weakness to be unique to him. If his father was into boxing, how would Dirk be so good with a sword? That's not an epic power, that's his actual skill.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I want to have his weakness be something to do with swords, as that is basically his character, and I want his weakness to be unique to him. If his father was into boxing, how would Dirk be so good with a sword? That's not an epic power, that's his actual skill.

 

I just think swords is too exotic of a weakness. The canon Epics we've seen have all had relatable, everyday fears that play into their weaknesses. Lack of fear. Public humiliation. Parental abuse. I feel like having swords be his weakness is too….special. 

[Edgedancer he/him]

I just think swords is too exotic of a weakness. The canon Epics we've seen have all had relatable, everyday fears that play into their weaknesses. Lack of fear. Public humiliation. Parental abuse. I feel like having swords be his weakness is too….special. 

I think the problem is less it being too exotic and more how it relates to the core fear. I mean, obviously the sword isn't what he's afraind of here. From what we've been told the actual core fear is more something like abuse and in that case something reminding him of the abuser  (i.e. his father) would make the most sense. Of course, even then having the weakness trigger be something that he himself regulary relies on, like a sword, is entirely paradox.

Edited February 2, 2016 by Edgedancer