Delightful Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 22 hours ago, Ookla the Pug-whisperer said: Dial up the pity when you meet with her superior. Try dropping words like "hostile environment" and "singled out." It might help. Yeah..... *hugs*
Delightful Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Wow my quoting is messed up. I was replying to the Incorrigible. My reply to Twi that didnt post was "it'll probably be a Hebrew conversation but I'll try anyway". 1
Erunion he/him Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Hugs appreciated. I will strive to be incorrigible.
Delightful Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Ookla the Incorrigible said: Hugs appreciated. I will strive to be incorrigible. Incorrigible reminds me simultaneously of corgis and corrugated steel. 2
Oversleep Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Sick, feeling bad, catching up on material cause I have to do tasks for class I have tomorrow. (It's programming) And I can't just go with being sick, even if I go to the doctor and get what's-that-called paper saying I can't go to the class... thing is, my absence would be justified but I wouldn't earn any points since I would be absent. Every class we claim the exercises/tasks we have done and people are chosen randomly to present them in front of the whole class - that's how they're checked. To pass this course we need at least 50% and I've already missed one class so my counter is 9 out of 23. Tomorrow's point pool is 8 so if I do all of them (unlikely) I end up with 17/31. Barely above 50%. It gets worse: not only my solution has to be 100% correct, I have to be able to describe and explain every single thing in my code. And I may be asked "what if I change <that part of code> to <this>?" And I have to know. That's not normal - in other classes we could ask that question. If we didn't understand something, we could ask for explanation. This class is opposite. If I make a mistake, all my points I gathered so far will be zero'd. In other classes there's no penalty for being wrong. Normally I'm stressed out before this class but today stress is going through the roof. (I could rant about this teacher for hours - once I was presenting my code, simple one, and he asked me everything he could so I'd make a mistake... but when somebody else presented a solution using mechanism not yet introduced (which is actually against the rules of this class) he just said "Probably no one in this class except you will get this"... and accepted, didn't ask him a single question... didn't even bothered to explain this guy's code to the class)
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Yesterday was one long parade of cremholes. Seriously, I had at least four people who just stood by my desk and sighed until I asked if they needed help. I had thought today was better....but now the Internet is down. I'm writing this on my phone, using my data because it's been two minutes now and the Shard STILL hasn't loaded on my laptop. I've reset my router twice and it's had no effect. I've typed out the same post twice, as well as a PM, and I've lost everything when I hit Post. Maybe this sounds like a first world problem, but this is where most of my friends are. This is how I stay in touch, how I entertain myself. I won't be able to watch Netflix or do much of anything fun without using up a large chunk of my data. And yes, my ISP office is closed right now, because of course it is. I am so sick of this week. Edit: And, as soon as I'd posted that, the internet started working again. Edited November 30, 2016 by Ookla the Pug-whisperer
Briar King Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I need a bowl of oatmeal. Ugh I hate stomach issues
Quiver he/him Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Existentialism is the best kind of angst. It leads to all sorts of questions like "What am I even doing with my life," and "Am I wasting my time." Questions like "Who do I even bother with stuff," since 'stuff' isn't going to get done anyway. Or trying to make full scale mental essays on "What have I done wrong today," and not seeing any real way that the future is going to change or be better. This is why I end up chasing comic books and fantasy and role-playing so much. Escapist fiction, yeah, but those are genres which place an emphasis on human life having an intrinsically high value, and sometimes, I feel like I...really don't. (And, add "Am I bothering (people on) the Shard with my whining," to concerns now...) 3
marsoupial they/them Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, Ookla the Archer said: (And, add "Am I bothering (people on) the Shard with my whining," to concerns now...) Not a chance, Quivs. We love you, and we are here for you. Whatever you are going through, however difficult or personal, we are here for you. After all, what are internet-stranger-friends for? 1
Oversleep Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Temperature: barely above water's freezing point (~37 F?). But the perceived temperature/wind chill is probably 26 F. Wind: strong. Rain: heavy. It's evil out there and I am already sick but I have to go EDIT: Rain stopped, well, raining. Now it's starting to snow. EDIT2: Now it's a blizzard. If I'm not back in 5 hours it means I froze to death Edited November 30, 2016 by Ookla the Sunrise Watcher
Kaymyth she/her Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Ookla the Archer said: Existentialism is the best kind of angst. It leads to all sorts of questions like "What am I even doing with my life," and "Am I wasting my time." Questions like "Who do I even bother with stuff," since 'stuff' isn't going to get done anyway. Or trying to make full scale mental essays on "What have I done wrong today," and not seeing any real way that the future is going to change or be better. This is why I end up chasing comic books and fantasy and role-playing so much. Escapist fiction, yeah, but those are genres which place an emphasis on human life having an intrinsically high value, and sometimes, I feel like I...really don't. (And, add "Am I bothering (people on) the Shard with my whining," to concerns now...) You know what? If we're all wasting our time, then we should just waste it doing things we love and doing small things to make other people happy. Cause if there's no big cosmic bar by which we're measured, then the little things count more. (You are never bothering, for you are our Quiver and we likes you.) 3
Briar King Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 5 hours ago, Ookla the Sunrise Watcher said: Temperature: barely above water's freezing point (~37 F?). But the perceived temperature/wind chill is probably 26 F. Wind: strong. Rain: heavy. It's evil out there and I am already sick but I have to go EDIT: Rain stopped, well, raining. Now it's starting to snow. EDIT2: Now it's a blizzard. If I'm not back in 5 hours it means I froze to death Where is this? Sounds glorious. I'm jealous
Sunbird she/her Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 @Briar King Oversleep lives in Poland.
Zathoth Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Ookla the Archer said: Existentialism is the best kind of angst. It leads to all sorts of questions like "What am I even doing with my life," and "Am I wasting my time." Questions like "Who do I even bother with stuff," since 'stuff' isn't going to get done anyway. Or trying to make full scale mental essays on "What have I done wrong today," and not seeing any real way that the future is going to change or be better. This is why I end up chasing comic books and fantasy and role-playing so much. Escapist fiction, yeah, but those are genres which place an emphasis on human life having an intrinsically high value, and sometimes, I feel like I...really don't. (And, add "Am I bothering (people on) the Shard with my whining," to concerns now...) As existence is fundamentally meaningless and everything is going to be reduced to nothingness (my shard would so be Ruin...) if you feel like you are wasting your time then yes, you are. I can answer the first question too. You are bothering with stuff because not bothering with stuff would mean consequences that you fear are going to be worse than the stuff you are bothering with. And same, I find reality boring, so I escape to more interesting lands, like The Cosmere, Temerant and apparently Chicago. I still have not figured out why I love horror and Weird fiction so much though... oh well.
Oversleep Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I didn't freeze to death! Yay! But with blizzard and windspeed being about 17mph and cold and this mixture of water, snow and mud on the streets it was not a pleasant trip. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 11 hours ago, Ookla the Archer said: Existentialism is the best kind of angst. It leads to all sorts of questions like "What am I even doing with my life," and "Am I wasting my time." Questions like "Who do I even bother with stuff," since 'stuff' isn't going to get done anyway. Or trying to make full scale mental essays on "What have I done wrong today," and not seeing any real way that the future is going to change or be better. This is why I end up chasing comic books and fantasy and role-playing so much. Escapist fiction, yeah, but those are genres which place an emphasis on human life having an intrinsically high value, and sometimes, I feel like I...really don't. (And, add "Am I bothering (people on) the Shard with my whining," to concerns now...) 4 hours ago, Ookla the Mythical said: You know what? If we're all wasting our time, then we should just waste it doing things we love and doing small things to make other people happy. Cause if there's no big cosmic bar by which we're measured, then the little things count more. (You are never bothering, for you are our Quiver and we likes you.) Listen to Kaymyth, Quiver. She speaks the truth. And, contrary to the popular view, change doesn't happen all at once because a Katniss Everdeen or a Harry Potter suddenly show up on the scene and get the rest of the world's heroes to stop twiddling their thumbs and get to work. There are all kinds of small motions toward change leading up to the Big Moments that we don't see. A changed mind here, a bill passed there. Every movement toward change counts. The Harrys and the Katnisses might get all the media attention, but if it weren't for the no-names in the Ministry or the Districts, they'd be nothing more than a footnote in a history book. You're not insignificant. Individuals make all the difference in the world. 4
Sunbird she/her Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 @Ookla the Archer In the words of the Doctor, "I've never met anyone who wasn't important." You matter. We care what happens to you. *hugs* 2
ThirdGen Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I hate to say this while using an avatar of woo-woo bogus philosophy, but... The popular perception of existentialism is that it's saying life has no meaning, and that means everything cool or important or some such is now drained of color and is utterly depressing. The key, however, is not that there's nothing to find meaning in, it's that meaning has always been something we make up. It's the human activity that results that matters. Meaning is not something absolute, we break it down, recreate it, shift it in adaptive patterns. It's always been a set of stories we tell ourselves, and that changes nothing about the world. It's just a more accurate description. Postmodernism took this ball and just ran with it into many theoretical dead-ends which are best avoided, but there's great positive potential in existentialism. 1
Sunbird she/her Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, The Ooklent One said: I hate to say this while using an avatar of woo-woo bogus philosophy, but... The popular perception of existentialism is that it's saying life has no meaning, and that means everything cool or important or some such is now drained of color and is utterly depressing. The key, however, is not that there's nothing to find meaning in, it's that meaning has always been something we make up. It's the human activity that results that matters. Meaning is not something absolute, we break it down, recreate it, shift it in adaptive patterns. It's always been a set of stories we tell ourselves, and that changes nothing about the world. It's just a more accurate description. Postmodernism took this ball and just ran with it into many theoretical dead-ends which are best avoided, but there's great positive potential in existentialism. Sounds like maybe people are mistaking nihilism for existentialism...? I'm not enormously well versed in the in-depth definitions of either term, but I think nihilism fits the attitude you're describing.
Delightful Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Ookla the Flighty said: Sounds like maybe people are mistaking nihilism for existentialism...? I'm not enormously well versed in the in-depth definitions of either term, but I think nihilism fits the attitude you're describing. I think you're right.
ThirdGen Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 The idea that there is no meaning in the world beyond what we give it is a component of the existentialist concept of "the absurd." It's central to existentialism. Nihilism, by contrast, posits that everything is insignificant. The meaninglessness in nihilism is also valuelessness.
Orlion Blight he/him Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, The Ooklent One said: The idea that there is no meaning in the world beyond what we give it is a component of the existentialist concept of "the absurd." It's central to existentialism. Nihilism, by contrast, posits that everything is insignificant. The meaninglessness in nihilism is also valuelessness. The way I look at it, nihilism is a sort of technique whose main component is extreme skepticism.
ThirdGen Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Orlion Determined said: The way I look at it, nihilism is a sort of technique whose main component is extreme skepticism. That's one way of viewing it. Skepticism doubts things are true until proven, while nihilism assumes falsehood outright.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 And then there's mohatma ghandi
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