Jo and the Bush all/any Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 If somebody created a super elaborate language where Whole Sentences could be said in just one word, and then taught that language to a baby, would the baby be able to awaken with this New Super-aLanguage, and would this have any extra effects on awakening? For Example, in their Native language, "Become as my fingers and Grip when I Say" Is just "Blif" Would the command of Blif work better since it's one word? 1
WeiryWriter he/him Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Two questions (that I want to get down before I forget... 'cause that happens a lot) You have said that you plan on one of the flashback characters to be "Taln". By this do you mean, regardless on whether or not they are in fact the same person, the guy who shows up at the end of WoK (whose identity you refuse to confirm) or Talenel'elin, Herald of War? You have said that somebody who has a Hemalurgic spike that grants a Feruchemical ability is able to access the metalminds of the original Feruchemist. If you were to split that spike in two and implant it in two different individuals, could they share metalminds?
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Can spren spy on things haeppening in other worlds? Or are they restricted to Roshar's Cognitive realm only? 1
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 If a Feruchemist was Storing Health in a Goldmind while he got stabbed with a knife, would he become more injured than if he weren't Storing?
Curiosity he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 What do Cryptics think of theatre? Do they even have theatrical productions on Roshar?
LiquidBlue Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 I have a couple of questions about Aluminum and Allomantic Shadows. Do aluminum objects show up in atium shadows? Can aluminum obscure an atium shadow? If allomancer burning gold were to wear an aluminum gauntlet would they still be able to touch their shadow?
LiquidBlue Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Does the Divine Breath of the Returned have an intent? If so: Does the intent change the returned over time? Are the names given to the Returned somehow divined from the intent? 1
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 So Shards Invest in planets. Is there a maximum number of Shards that could Invest in any single planet? If there is, is this related to the physical size of the planet or something to do with the planets Spiritual aspect? 3
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Maximum sixteen xD That is not an answer. 1
Darkness he/him Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 42 is always the answer. If Preservation were to have chosen to hang around Nalthis after the shattering of Adonalsium instead of Scadrial, and was the only Shard in that Solar System, assuming the people on Nalthis originated with sDNA attuned to Preservation, would Nalthis' magic system have developed based on Breaths, Metals, or something else? In other words, how much does the magic system of a world depend on the following: i. The specific Intent of the resident Shard(s). ii. The planet itself. iii. The sDNA/physical/cognitive paradigm of the resident people. Since Braize, Ashyn, and Roshar are all in the Greater Rosharan system, are they all somewhat exposed to Cultivation, Honor, and Odium's 'magical power aura', and would a Surgebinder have any magical ability on the other planets? Would it manifest any differently? (I'm thinking of when the Heralds go to Damnation (Braize?)... would they be able to use their Honorblades at all?)
Curiosity he/him Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Can an Awakener of a certain Heightening perceive Allomancy being used? Can they feel Mistborn, Mistings, Feruchemists, Ferrings, and Hemalurgic spikes with their life sense? What about metalminds? Do those have auras?
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 42 is always the answer. If Preservation were to have chosen to hang around Nalthis after the shattering of Adonalsium instead of Scadrial, and was the only Shard in that Solar System, assuming the people on Nalthis originated with sDNA attuned to Preservation, would Nalthis' magic system have developed based on Breaths, Metals, or something else? In other words, how much does the magic system of a world depend on the following: i. The specific Intent of the resident Shard(s). ii. The planet itself. iii. The sDNA/physical/cognitive paradigm of the resident people. Since Braize, Ashyn, and Roshar are all in the Greater Rosharan system, are they all somewhat exposed to Cultivation, Honor, and Odium's 'magical power aura', and would a Surgebinder have any magical ability on the other planets? Would it manifest any differently? (I'm thinking of when the Heralds go to Damnation (Braize?)... would they be able to use their Honorblades at all?) I assume that the planet decides what is used by the Investiture system. Scadrial-metal, Roshar-Spren. The Shard decides how said system is accessed and the planet and the Shard sort of both get a say in how it manifests. For example, if Preservation and Ruin had stopped at Roshar instead of Scadrial their Investiture system would have used Spren instead of metals*. I assume that how the Investiture system is accessed would still be the same but would Ruin's system still be the universal hack that it is? *Which leads to a question. If Scadrial never had Shards visit it, would Aluminum still be weird in it's interactions with Investiture or did that come about because of Scadrial? 1
Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Can an Awakener of a certain Heightening perceive Allomancy being used? Can they feel Mistborn, Mistings, Feruchemists, Ferrings, and Hemalurgic spikes with their life sense? What about metalminds? Do those have auras? Considering Zahel was able to sense Syl, I'm lead to believe that the "lifesense" is actually "invest-sense". If that is the case, then yes, though of course that is just my conjecture. Which leads to a question. If Scadrial never had Shards visit it, would Aluminum still be weird in it's interactions with Investiture or did that come about because of Scadrial? Considering Aluminum messes with all the systems, according to Brandon, I would say it is not Scadrial based. Scadrial is just the place where it is most noticeable due to the magic system being metal based.
Darkness he/him Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 For example, if Preservation and Ruin had stopped at Roshar instead of Scadrial their Investiture system would have used Spren instead of metals*. I assume that how the Investiture system is accessed would still be the same but would Ruin's system still be the universal hack that it is? Sorry... are you saying people would inhale/ingest spren, and then burn them to get the correct key pattern to access investiture? I'm not sure I understand... would the spren still have ideals? Would you be able to allomantically manipulate fire by 'burning' a flamespren? This is weird...
Moogle Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Considering Zahel was able to sense Syl, I'm lead to believe that the "lifesense" is actually "invest-sense". If that is the case, then yes, though of course that is just my conjecture. Can't be only that. Lifesense lets you know when people are looking at you. It should be a little bit more involved than that, though I agree Investiture-sense is involved somewhere as well since you can't sense Drabs.
waxingwass Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 We will ever experience, in real-time, a shard being shattered? I'm thinking that with what, 13 that we know of that are left, there seems to be an opportunity to show us this an event like this which has had such deep impact to the cosmere? And, how awesome would that be if it came from the POV of a the shardholder! Hopefully this is general enough to not be RAFO-bait, but i'd understand it if were. I did a search for this within this topic abd I couldn't find where this was already asked, so apologies if its a repeat, 1
Kurkistan he/him Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Can't be only that. Lifesense lets you know when people are looking at you. It should be a little bit more involved than that, though I agree Investiture-sense is involved somewhere as well since you can't sense Drabs. Perhaps a reread of Warbreaker is in order on my part, but I don't recall Lifesense being quite that narrow. People looking at you is certainly one case where it triggers, but I seem to recall several instances of it working without anything resembling "looking at" going on. Doesn't Vivienee get all "life sensy" on just crowds in general after she gets her Breath-stash? EDIT: Oops, misread you and thought you were saying that lifesense only let you know when people were looking at you. To address the broader point, myself I'd guess that very very ephemeral "connections" are formed between people on a Spiritual level when they look at each other, and Lifesense is attuned to that. Edited February 27, 2015 by Kurkistan
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry... are you saying people would inhale/ingest spren, and then burn them to get the correct key pattern to access investiture? I'm not sure I understand... would the spren still have ideals? Would you be able to allomantically manipulate fire by 'burning' a flamespren? This is weird... No. I'm saying that how the user first gains access to the system would be the same or at least similar. So to gain a Preservation Spren someone would need to be in immediate danger of dying. Instead of being, more or less, a good person. Which is how a Nahel-Spren Bond is gained. Not sure how a Ruin Spren would be bonded. Probably similar to how Odium Spren are bonded. Would Spren even Bond? I'm only assuming that Spren would even be used but I suspect that Roshar itself desires that Spren be used, for whatever reason. I have no idea how the Investiture system would manifest. Meaning I have no idea what powers would be granted though I assume that they would be similar. Sorry for any confusion.
Darkness he/him Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Oh I think I get it. FYI Ruinspren would have to be snapped through strong emotion/feeling as well (it wasn't just beatings, HoA revealed that even pleasant, intense emotions could 'snap' an individual allomantically). The atium (Ruin-using) mistings were snapped by being exposed to the mists and almost dying. I'm fairly sure spren are a function of Roshar, but while there is a general WoB that says the planet itself is important to the workings of the magic system, there is no specific Roshar=spren, Scadrial=allomancy quote. Another question: Hemallurgy is cosmere-versal... but does it always involve metal spikes? I'm thinking maybe each world has a different way of cut/pasting spirit webs that relates to the local magic system... Edit to rephrase the latter part into an ask-able question. Edited March 1, 2015 by Darkness
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Oh I think I get it. FYI Ruinspren would have to be snapped through strong emotion/feeling as well (it wasn't just beatings, HoA revealed that even pleasant, intense emotions could 'snap' an individual allomantically). The atium (Ruin-using) mistings were snapped by being exposed to the mists and almost dying. I'm fairly sure spren are a function of Roshar, but while there is a general WoB that says the planet itself is important to the workings of the magic system, there is no specific Roshar=spren, Scadrial=allomancy quote. Another question: Hemallurgy is cosmere-versal... but does it always involve metal spikes? I'm thinking maybe each world has a different way of cut/pasting spirit webs that relates to the local magic system... Edit to rephrase the latter part into an ask-able question. But the Allomancer's that used Atium were Allomancers not Hemalurgists. Just because they used Atium doesn't mean that's how they accessed Ruin's system. It was Preservation's system using Ruin's Investiture. I'm not saying that Scadrial would have always had Allomancy whatever the Shard but the Shards system would have used metal. Somehow.
Darkness he/him Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Interesting to think about for sure. I'm pretty sure I agree with you. Although I think that 'ruinspren' would be the equivalent manifestation of Ruin's investiture on Roshar to atium on Scadrial. Sure allomancy is 'Preservation's system', but spren are more or less Splinters; pieces of a God, which is the same as atium. Though... I could be wrong. After all, I don't see any sentient pieces of atium lying around
Curiosity he/him Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Before Odium came to Roshar, could anyone be a Surgebinder? If Preservation and Honor had created people together on Scadrial, would Snapping be any different? This is what informed these questions, in case you were wondering. Allomancy is the same. It’s in there, but it takes a reaction—in this case, physical anguish—to trigger it and bring it out. That’s because the Allomantic power comes from the extra bit of Preservation inside of humans, that same extra bit that gives us free will. This bit is trapped between the opposing forces of Preservation and Ruin, and to come out and allow it the power to access metals and draw forth energy, it needs to fight its way through the piece of Ruin that is also there inside.
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Before Odium came to Roshar, could anyone be a Surgebinder? If Preservation and Honor had created people together on Scadrial, would Snapping be any different? This is what informed these questions, in case you were wondering. So that quote Curiosity is very interesting. When I was reading Mistborn for the first time I assumed that Ruin didn't like to Spike Mistborn for their powers because it was fatal. But know I know it is not fatal. So if it's not fatal why can't the same person be Spiked twice? We must assume that the same person can't be Spiked twice because Ruin himself was unable to do so. Is it because, when someone is Spiked, the little piece of Ruin is taken? Actually no, that can't be it. Because it is theoretically possible to take a Shardblade from someone using Hemalurgy. Unless Brandon was being tricksy and he 'forgot' to mention that though Hemalurgic Spikes can be given to anyone, they can only be charged by someone with Ruin inside of them. No that can't be it. Hmmm. Well even though I have managed to confuse the original question it would still perhaps clarify some things.lord Well anyway that question I asked, "do Hemalurgic Spikes work by using the little piece of Ruin inside people as a way of charging the Spike?" was supposed to be lead up, if correct, with if someone who had the potential to be an Allomancer but had yet to Snap, was Spiked would that allow them to become an Allomancer with having to Snap in the traditional sense? Though now that I think about it even if Hemalurgy doesn't work like that. I can think of nothing more traumatic than having a chunk of your Spiritweb ripped out, so I guess they have no choice but to Snap.
Shaggai Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 So that quote Curiosity is very interesting. When I was reading Mistborn for the first time I assumed that Ruin didn't like to Spike Mistborn for their powers because it was fatal. But know I know it is not fatal. So if it's not fatal why can't the same person be Spiked twice? We must assume that the same person can't be Spiked twice because Ruin himself was unable to do so. Is it because, when someone is Spiked, the little piece of Ruin is taken? Actually no, that can't be it. Because it is theoretically possible to take a Shardblade from someone using Hemalurgy. Unless Brandon was being tricksy and he 'forgot' to mention that though Hemalurgic Spikes can be given to anyone, they can only be charged by someone with Ruin inside of them. No that can't be it. Hmmm. Well even though I have managed to confuse the original question it would still perhaps clarify some things.lord Well anyway that question I asked, "do Hemalurgic Spikes work by using the little piece of Ruin inside people as a way of charging the Spike?" was supposed to be lead up, if correct, with if someone who had the potential to be an Allomancer but had yet to Snap, was Spiked would that allow them to become an Allomancer with having to Snap in the traditional sense? Though now that I think about it even if Hemalurgy doesn't work like that. I can think of nothing more traumatic than having a chunk of your Spiritweb ripped out, so I guess they have no choice but to Snap. I think it's just much more difficult to non-fatally spike someone, so spikings are almost always fatal.
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