Zas678 he/him Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 We know the Splinter too. He said that the Splinter inside Lightsong is what lets him see the intention of paintings and sometimes see glimpses of the future.
happyman he/him Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 - In Warbreaker, is Clod the Lifeless body of Arsteel? I like this idea because Arsteel would have had some breaths within him when he died, as this is how Vashir defeated him and Denth, and this could help explain why he seems to be a little more self-aware than most Lifeless. Could you respond to this idea?Clod is more self-aware than most Lifeless. There is something left of Arsteel within Clod. The Breaths that Vasher gave him when he killed him do have an effect on this. Extrapolating on this: the more breaths a person is given right as/before they die, the more of themselves they retain. Then, all it takes is one [deific?] breath to Awaken them. Is this the recipe for a Returned? If so, who is giving them enough breath to let them maintain their core personalities (if not their memories)? This is a really good theory, actually. It's hard to say though---I don't think that even holding enough breaths to reach the tenth heightening would make somebody a Returned if they were then turned into a Lifeless. I can't help but thinking that there must have been an interaction with the divine breath, as well.
Zas678 he/him Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I agree. I think that Endowment "gives up" part of herself (i'm assuming its a she) to reconnect a body and a spirit, much like Vin did when she fueled Elend.
happyman he/him Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 We know the Splinter too. He said that the Splinter inside Lightsong is what lets him see the intention of paintings and sometimes see glimpses of the future. If it's a splinter, maybe using the Skaze together he can see into the future? I would note that Wyrn's ability to see into the future is pretty dang impressive. Atium can only see a few seconds, and Lightsong gets only glimpses of things that are almost (but not quite) inevitable. Wyrn must have something fairly potent to get info as specific as what he got.
Andrew the Great he/him Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 I agree. It seems fairly likely that Wyrn either direct or very close indirect access to a fairly large portion of a Shard.
Emeralis00 she/her Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Which of the 10 Knights was supposed to be in book 1? I couldn
Silus - Shard of Flame he/him Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 It's the embossed (is that the right word for it?) symbol on the cover of WoK, but under the paper, Micheal Whelan art'd cover.
PeterAhlstrom he/him Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 It's called a Blind Stamp. Maybe because you can feel it if you're a blind person? Anyway, it's the same symbol as in the background of the Part One page and the Part Five page.
Shivertongue he/him Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I just realized.. I never asked the waffle question!
Emeralis00 she/her Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 It's called a Blind Stamp. Maybe because you can feel it if you're a blind person? Anyway, it's the same symbol as in the background of the Part One page and the Part Five page. Ah. Thank you Peter.
FeatherWriter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 So, if the symbol on the front cover is a stylized glyph for Windrunning, I suppose that this means that the large circles' glyphs inside the front cover represent the Radiants' powers (Are the Radiants' powers as a group called Surgebinding? Or is that more specific?) and the smaller circles represent the Ten Orders. This lines up with the two powers = one order, and each power is linked to two orders. Though there's some extra lines there, that don't quite fit... Now if we can just figure out which glyph represents Soulcasting. I suppose if the next book focuses on Shallan we might see (or feel since it's a blind stamp) a sword version of the Soulcasting glyph. But what would we get if he focuses on Dalinar? Unless Dalinar's visions are a Radiant power. Ooh. I like that idea.
CrazyRioter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 actually the large circles represent the Orders and the small circles represent the powers.
FeatherWriter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Are you sure? The symbol on the front seems to match with the bigger circle on the top left of the sequence, and Brandon said it represents Windrunning, one of the powers. Wouldn't that make it the other way around?
CrazyRioter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 The Windrunners are an order, that can control the Surges of Gravity and Pressure.
FeatherWriter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Okay, I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm still very interested in the other orders though. And what are the symbols on the back? Questions for another day I'd suppose...
Chaos he/him Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 The symbols on the back are especially mysterious, and Brandon isn't telling anyone about them. What a jerk
FeatherWriter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 My current theory is that either: 1. Surgebinding and the Radiants are related to Honor, who powers the magic system on the front. Therefore the symbols on the back are a similar system, but one powered by another shard. or 2. It's related to the traveling/using Shadesmar system that everyone seems to be getting into. I don't know. The use of 10, a number whose importance is Roshar-specific, leads me to believe number one, but being set right next to a map of Roshar's Shadesmar, which has been confirmed to exist throughout the cosmere leads me to number two.
Chaos he/him Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 The Ars Arcanum references Voidbinding (whatever that is! ). It could be that.
FeatherWriter she/her Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 the ten levels of Voidbinding or its cousin the Old Magic Sounds like a major contender. I'm about halfway through my first WoK reread and I'm completely fascinated. I'm a throw-yourself-in-whole-heartedly kind of reader. I mostly read straight through and don't think about theories or predictions as I read, so going back through books is necessary for me to catch all the little stuff.
Silus - Shard of Flame he/him Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 That quote is interesting. If voidbinding is related to the Old Magic, would that makes them of the same Shard? I'd assumed they were of different Shards.
lordofsoup Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 With three shards on Roshar, there could be up to seven different native magic systems there if the Mistborn and Elantris magic systems hold true. 1 from the interaction of all three shards, 1 each from each different shard, 1 from Odium and honor, 1 from cultivation and odium, and 1 from cultivation and honor.
Link Von Kelsier Harvey he/him Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I think Brandon has already said there are between 15 and 30 systems, depending on how you count.
Chaos he/him Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 i know, but how many are on roshar? I think that's what Link was referring to. I mean, we already have ten Surges, and if you group two Surges, you get an Order of Radiants, and that combination makes a unique magic on its own. Then we have Voidbinding (whatever that is), Old Magic, the Thrill, etc. Thirty is quite likely, if you count each Surge separately. (Or maybe Brandon is counting the Radiant Orders as a separate magic, rather than the individual Surge. I don't know if you can have power in a single Surge. It could go either way.)
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