You Know You're a Sanderfan When...

[Shallan&Pattern she/her]

Wait how do I do alleyverse. Where and tell me more please!

[AonEne he/him]

1 hour ago, Shallan&Pattern said:

Wait how do I do alleyverse. Where and tell me more please!

Hi! The Alleyverse is a roleplay, and also the name of the universe that roleplay is set in. Here's the subforum: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/forum/92-alleyverse/ The guides could be useful to read, they're pinned, and the first few posts on the Alleyverse Characters thread have an explanation of how to make a character. If you have any questions at all, please feel free to ask!  

[Shallan&Pattern she/her]

Ok thankyou!!!

[AonEne he/him]

Anytime! 

[Bookish Ocelot she/her]

YKYASFW you hear someone say 'Kal' in the hallways and spin around trying to find the fellow sanderfan, then realize they said 'calc' instead. 

[blackout8444 he/him]

YKYASFW you can no longer get the same level of satisfaction from other books, and have to resort to subsisting solely off of Sanderson, Tolkien, and Robert Jordan.

 

Additionally, when you nearly faint from the mental overload of your younger sister finally asking you where to start on Brandon's books.

 

Third, when you finally get your parents to let you have Discord, and the first thing you think of is that you can finally join the 17th shard Discord forums.

[+Doomstick he/him]

1 hour ago, blackout8444 said:

 

YKYASFW you can no longer get the same level of satisfaction from other books, and have to resort to subsisting solely off of Sanderson, Tolkien, and Robert Jordan

 

I recommend lightbringer

[AonEne he/him]

Just now, The Last Post said:

I recommend lightbringer

Warning, maturity. 

[+Doomstick he/him]

1 minute ago, AonEne said:

Warning, maturity. 

True

[AonEne he/him]

15 minutes ago, The Last Post said:

True

Another warning, semibad writing...though if you got through the first WoT you can probably make it 

[Shallan&Pattern she/her]

When you turn thirteen today, (am I really?) and your first thought is, wheres that safe glove. (I have covered my left in the past but I'm left handed and it truely is a pain, but hey. I'm the age where you need to so. 

[+Doomstick he/him]

1 hour ago, Shallan&Pattern said:

When you turn thirteen today, (am I really?) and your first thought is, wheres that safe glove. (I have covered my left in the past but I'm left handed and it truely is a pain, but hey. I'm the age where you need to so. 

But it starts at fourteen 

[Jaywalk he/him]

9 hours ago, AonEne said:

Another warning, semibad writing...though if you got through the first WoT you can probably make it 

I disagree, Lightbringer is excellent.

[AonEne he/him]

3 hours ago, Shallan&Pattern said:

When you turn thirteen today, (am I really?) and your first thought is, wheres that safe glove. (I have covered my left in the past but I'm left handed and it truely is a pain, but hey. I'm the age where you need to so. 

Hey, happy birthday! 

[Wyndlerunner he/him]

10 hours ago, AonEne said:

Another warning, semibad writing...though if you got through the first WoT you can probably make it 

Ene, why must you hurt the WoT fans so?

[+Doomstick he/him]

1 hour ago, The Last Post said:

But it starts at fourteen 

But really 15 and 146 days

[AonEne he/him]

5 hours ago, Wyndlerunner said:

Ene, why must you hurt the WoT fans so?

Because that first book is plain annoying, and if it weren’t for everyone promising me it’ll get better, I would not be reading it. I haven’t been able to pick it up in months.  

Anyway, do you have Discord? 

[Wyndlerunner he/him]

Just now, AonEne said:

Because that first book is plain annoying, and if it weren’t for everyone promising me it’ll get better, I would not be reading it. I haven’t been able to pick it up in months.  

Anyway, do you have Discord? 

No I do not have Discord- I thought I told you this already.

Also- It does get better, and Jordan's writing isn't bad, its detailed (There's a difference)

[AonEne he/him]

51 minutes ago, Wyndlerunner said:

No I do not have Discord- I thought I told you this already.

Also- It does get better, and Jordan's writing isn't bad, its detailed (There's a difference)

You probably have  you should get it. *hopeful eyes* *puppy dog eyes* *axehound pup eyes* 

I know it gets better, but I disagree. I think that so far, the first book has been written badly, but that’s just me. 

[The Awakened Salad they/them]

When you and your friend are talking about red giants, and how weird it would look if the sun turned red, and the first thing you say is "Oh! So then the world will look like it does in Mistborn!" 

[Wyndlerunner he/him]

1 hour ago, AonEne said:

I know it gets better, but I disagree. I think that so far, the first book has been written badly, but that’s just me.

Ok, you gotta pinpoint what about the writing is bugging you, then I can better gauge your actual opinion.

[Jaywalk he/him]

When you can pinpoint that a person across a large room is reading Mistborn, just by a quick glance at the spine.

[Lunamor she/her]

1 hour ago, Wyndlerunner said:

Ok, you gotta pinpoint what about the writing is bugging you, then I can better gauge your actual opinion.

I’m not Ene but my biggest problem is that his descriptions, while sometimes great, could be way too long and talking about unnecessary or boring things. I liked the story but it was hard to keep reading when he spent pages and pages describing a camp without having any action, dialogue, or progression of the story. That’s part of the reason I’m so excited for the show.

[AonEne he/him]

2 hours ago, Lunamor said:

I’m not Ene but my biggest problem is that his descriptions, while sometimes great, could be way too long and talking about unnecessary or boring things. I liked the story but it was hard to keep reading when he spent pages and pages describing a camp without having any action, dialogue, or progression of the story. That’s part of the reason I’m so excited for the show.

Yeah, basically this. The pacing sucks, making everything boring to read. There’s nothing hooking me, nothing making me interested in the story, nothing making me care if the characters live or die. The worldbuilding is never explained - people say Sanderson has a sharp learning curve, but his was fine. You learn names and stuff, the narration gives you explanations without it seeming like an infodump or too sparse; meanwhile Robert Jordan just throws names and stuff at you and expects you to understand and care. The characters aren’t characterized well, nobody has any depth to them except maybe Moriaine (might’ve spelled her wrong) and what’s-her-face the village leader lady. Even they aren’t written very well.

Rand’s crush on Egwene is, so far, a joke; I have seen literally zero bonding moments between the two of them, they either vaguely agonize over the other’s safety or are blushing, embarrassed about an interest that seems to be based on nothing, since they don’t think about what they like about each other. I think Rand admires her beauty at one point, but that being the only thing I can think of is not good. There is one moment when he worries about her becoming an Aes Sedai, but it read like a shallow worry that wasn’t much dwelled on. I could sum up the plot in two sentences, and I’m like halfway through the book. That is a bad sign. The dream attacks aren’t explained well and also came out of nowhere. 

Mat is a whiny jerk who either is easily completely wiped out by a spell on a knife or has a personality that’s a mixture between actual bully and uncaring fool. There wasn’t much character depth or development given to Thom, except for a haphazard paragraph thrown in five minutes before his death, which is laughably unclear because RJ doesn’t know how to do drama, I guess. Also his old-timey writing style annoys me, I don’t like those.

RJ was also writing way too many main characters way too quickly; it can be done well, but this is not a good example of it. There are long breaks before you see any set of characters again, while the plot still somehow doesn’t progress on either end. I was ecstatic when Perrin and Egwene were captured, because it was an actual change of pace from “everyone runs around the wild, some people pass through cities that are all the same, nothing much happens”, which had been going on for way too long - but then of course we instantly go back to more of the same. (I don’t think I’ve gotten back to P&E yet, sadly. Their viewpoints were mildly more interesting than the rest, and I could see a ship between them more than Rand and Egwene. Also wolf telepathy.) I can’t think of many creative or unique characters, maybe Perrin and what’s-her-face, who deny their magic. 

And all that’s just off the top of my head. 

Edit: Sorry my opinions are so all over the place and discordant, I just wrote as I thought of it. 

Edited November 15, 2019 by AonEne

[Wyndlerunner he/him]

1 hour ago, AonEne said:

Rand’s crush on Egwene is, so far, a joke

That, at least, is intentional. The reader is supposed to realize that perhaps there isn't as much there romantically as both of them seem to think.