Long Game 113: The Thaylen City Council

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Character said:

Ksause is cleared 

Hate to say it but I agree

I don’t like the pile on Twin

[Illwei]

EDIT: 

11 minutes ago, TwinStorm said:

Archer is another of my v/leans. The elims are the informed minority, and I dont think they need to gather nearly as much information in the way Archer is, its a pretty a village move IMO

Also can you talk on this more? 

Are you talking about role collection? because there is nothing village about doing that. Perhaps you could say the guts it takes might be off the table for some elims, since people might suspect them, but going full out saying that it is a wholly villager thing is pretty wild to me. 

ACTUAL EDIT: 

CMON. Embarassing again. 

@Hoid Slayer can you talk on the clear on kaladin? 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Illwei said:

@Hoid Slayer can you talk on the clear on kaladin? 

I just don’t know if an elim would take such a risky stance here

Though, due to his relative inactivity, it is possible he is isolated, I would prefer to trust him for now

[Mint11 she/her]

1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said:

See I don’t really have reasoning I just realized it when looking at Archer’s VC

I think it’s our PMs

dang okay @Wahrheitswächter why are you ignoring my PM? 

33 minutes ago, TwinStorm said:

We just exe D1 for vibes across the majority of games, and thats not something I think is worth doing 

but then how do you suggest we ex D1? the reasons are always flimsy because, as you said, there isn't much information

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Also, I'm pretty sure Mint's just voting me to escape the exe, which I get, it makes sense if their village. 

it definitely wasn't

5 minutes ago, Illwei said:

EDIT: 

Also can you talk on this more? 

Are you talking about role collection? because there is nothing village about doing that. Perhaps you could say the guts it takes might be off the table for some elims, since people might suspect them, but going full out saying that it is a wholly villager thing is pretty wild to me. 

I don't think it's an inherently non-village move. its easier to strategize with other villagers if you know each other's roles. or to catch an elim in a lie about an action

[TwinStorm He/Him]

20 minutes ago, Illwei said:

EDIT: 

Also can you talk on this more? 

Are you talking about role collection? because there is nothing village about doing that. Perhaps you could say the guts it takes might be off the table for some elims, since people might suspect them, but going full out saying that it is a wholly villager thing is pretty wild to me. 

ACTUAL EDIT: 

CMON. Embarassing again. 

@Hoid Slayer can you talk on the clear on kaladin? 

revealing his own loyalty and role, especially the role he's revealed reads very village 

I dont think it's in the elims cards to do what he did, especially since he has negative loyalty

its not wholly villager, but compared to what I've seen e!Archer doing, its def more v

7 minutes ago, Mint11 said:

dang okay @Wahrheitswächter why are you ignoring my PM? 

but then how do you suggest we ex D1? the reasons are always flimsy because, as you said, there isn't much information

it definitely wasn't

I don't think it's an inherently non-village move. its easier to strategize with other villagers if you know each other's roles. or to catch an elim in a lie about an action

 

its the great problem of D1, unless an elim fumbles, its pretty random who we end up exeing, mostly depends on one persons vibes of another

[Mat he/him]

3 minutes ago, TwinStorm said:

revealing his own loyalty and role, especially the role he's revealed reads very village 

I dont think it's in the elims cards to do what he did, especially since he has negative loyalty

its not wholly villager, but compared to what I've seen e!Archer doing, its def more v

Wait when did Archer claim, I’m pretty sure that never happened. Unless it was privately to you :P. Or I’m dumb and I just missed it

[TwinStorm He/Him]

5 minutes ago, Mat said:

Wait when did Archer claim, I’m pretty sure that never happened. Unless it was privately to you :P. Or I’m dumb and I just missed it

it was private to me, we role swapped, im not sure if he said anything in thread.....

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

6 minutes ago, Mat said:

Wait when did Archer claim, I’m pretty sure that never happened. Unless it was privately to you :P. Or I’m dumb and I just missed it

Yeah I was thinking the same thing

[Mystfall He/Him]

1 hour ago, TwinStorm said:

revealing his own loyalty and role, especially the role he's revealed reads very village 

This actually reminds me of a post twin had earlier(don’t ask why I was talking to Mat about it) 

this one, where Twin says he decided his loyalty, that means he decided it after knowing both his role and his alignment, which means I’d like to know what he picked his loyalty.

As such, I’d prefer to keep him alive till C2 to get the info from TUC’s Depo call. As Mat pointed out to me in PMs, he’s either high positive or low negative. I’d like to see that as it might be very AI

I dont like the options though, because right now TUC is the only other option and he’s definitely village, but if there is another option I would like to do it.(gimme a sec to look at the VC and I might propose an alternative)

Edit: Archer’s the only other person with votes, and I’ve been gut v-reading them

Yep, I don’t see any other options

edit 2: if another train does come up that’s not Archer or TUC. I will probably switch to that

Edited Friday at 08:31 PM by Mystfall

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

25 minutes ago, Mystfall said:

As such, I’d prefer to keep him alive till C2 to get the info from TUC’s Depo call. As Mat pointed out to me in PMs, he’s either high positive or low negative. I’d like to see that as it might be very AI

That’s actually an exemplary point

TUC’s depo is basically an alignment scan for Twin

[Mystfall He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

That’s actually an exemplary point

TUC’s depo is basically an alignment scan for Twin

Unless anyone can think of a reason to kill him now and not C2 then I suggest we wait, but also there’s not any other options. I can’t make an argument for someone else right now(I’m working so I’m rushed), so I’m gonna have to leave that to you. Because if we get a free scan from TUC

Edited Friday at 08:41 PM by Mystfall

[The Unknown Character he/him]

I would happily switch from Twinstorm as long as it doesn't kill me

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Yeah I think I’m moving my vote back from Twin to Mint

Don’t think we’ll be getting much more today till the rollover rush

Just now, The Unknown Character said:

I would happily switch from Twinstorm as long as it doesn't kill me

If it helps, I don’t want to kill you

[Ascended Grubberfly He/Him]

VC:

Mint (2): Myst, Hoid
TwinStorm (3): Mint, Mat, TUC
Alvron (auto-exe)
Asriel (1): Illwei
Illwei (1): Grub
TUC (4): Wahr, Whimsy, Coco, Araris
Coco (1): Asriel
Archer (2): Ink, Hopper

I think this is accurate.

Edited Friday at 08:48 PM by Ascended Grubberfly
Hoid voted, as if to spite me

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Just now, Ascended Grubberfly said:

VC:

Mint (1): Myst
TwinStorm (4): Mint, Mat, Hoid, TUC
Alvron (auto-exe)
Asriel (1): Illwei
Illwei (1): Grub
TUC (4): Wahr, Whimsy, Coco, Araris
Coco (1): Asriel
Archer (2): Ink, Hopper

I think this is accurate.

Ooh Archer you’ve got competition

Except it isn’t cause I just switched back to Mint

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Lots of Talking since I was last on, but no one mentioned me, so I hope there's no questions for me that i've missed. 

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[The Unknown Character he/him]

Archer

[Mat he/him]

13 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

That’s actually an exemplary point

TUC’s depo is basically an alignment scan for Twin

I definitely wouldn’t go that far. Twin would have known that his boon would be announced, and given that there are at least 3 roles that scan for loyalty + the depo vote, it’s quite possible that e!Twin opted to not max his negative loyalty for fear of exactly what’s happening here.

[Mystfall He/Him]

Just now, Mat said:

I definitely wouldn’t go that far. Twin would have known that his boon would be announced, and given that there are at least 3 roles that scan for loyalty + the depo vote, it’s quite possible that e!Twin opted to not max his negative loyalty for fear of exactly what’s happening here.

Would he? I was told, but I got my PM 24 hours before the game started, and the boon twin got was the one I would’ve gotten if I didn’t like the one I was being offered 

The only reason Jo sent my PM early(he said this in my PM) is because it needed to be decided before the game started.

Twins didn’t so I don’t see why he’d know beforehand 

*lol, I said I didn’t have time and then immediately type this out, I should get back to my work shift*

[Mat he/him]

Like I don’t remember where but I swear someone said that the people with boons were told that they’d be announced in the thread beforehand

[Mystfall He/Him]

6 minutes ago, Mat said:

Like I don’t remember where but I swear someone said that the people with boons were told that they’d be announced in the thread beforehand

Yep, Hoid and I were told beforehand(at least I was I can’t verify him), but that was because we got our PMs early, and we got our PMs early because our boons had to be granted early, Twins did not 

[coco.pudding she/they]

1 hour ago, Mystfall said:

As such, I’d prefer to keep him alive till C2 to get the info from TUC’s Depo call. As Mat pointed out to me in PMs, he’s either high positive or low negative. I’d like to see that as it might be very AI

Oh wait that’s pretty interesting. I can agree to keeping him around for now to get that.

28 minutes ago, The Unknown Character said:

I would happily switch from Twinstorm as long as it doesn't kill me

I was planning to switch off you anyway. Sorry I had to vote you to do a tie, I was curious about reactions. So dw it won’t kill you : )

12 minutes ago, Mat said:

Like I don’t remember where but I swear someone said that the people with boons were told that they’d be announced in the thread beforehand

Yeah I remember they were told it would be announced (somewhere in the signup thread I believe).

Tbh I’m not sure how maxing out negative loyalty helps an elim (unless they have a role that’s better with negative, but even in that case why not stay closer to neutral just in case you want to switch back to positive)

Even with that I’m still curious what loyalty he chose, and the depo vote will reveal that.

Hm. I think unless a better option presents itself I’m gonna  switch to Mint for now. (I’m not allowed to just retract a vote right? Tbh I don’t like voting on C1s)

[Mat he/him]

4 minutes ago, Mystfall said:

Yep, Hoid and I were told beforehand(at least I was I can’t verify him), but that was because we got our PMs early, and we got our PMs early because our boons had to be granted early, Twins did not 

I mean I would argue that in the same way that role balancing required you to be told early, loyalty balancing also would require Twin to be told early

But I guess that if he chose his loyalty after seeing his alignment and role, that argument is invalid 

Though if it was in the signup thread as coco said, all of this is moot

3 way tie atm

[Ascended Grubberfly He/Him]

I’m just gonna say, I’m not gonna be very active until rollover. Yes that’s 5 hours, but I probably can’t and if I can it won’t be much of a contribution.

[Mint11 she/her]

sigh I can't complain too much about getting exed D1. I don't think it's ever happened (maybe once and I'm forgetting? idk) which is wild and honestly pretty lucky

rollover is at a bad time for me, otherwise I'd wait longer, but I'm a parliamentarian. I don't think that claim helps my case but there you go. I really don't want to vote for TUC, because I think he's village. I don't really want to vote for archer either.

only other person I'm okay with ex'ing today is hopper. they've been lying low, and the vote on archer can be interpreted as a low stakes piggyback on ink's vote

RP abandoned because I'm tired and sleepy

 

Edited Friday at 09:28 PM by Mint11
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