Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Just now, Myst said: I feel like it’s not. Assuming the coinshot is meta Elim that means they are going to snipe another pseudo Elim tonight, I feel like that’s very much a now problem Well yes that’s true, sorry, I phrased it wrong I meant hunting meta-elims in general is for the metagame
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 (edited) Anyway, another thing to note is that Striker’s vote was moved off of Hoid Edited May 31 by Myst Spag
Araris Valerian he/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Maybe we should just start by exeing the folks we think are meta-elims. If they can’t participate in the pseudogame then there is a lower chance they succeed in their bet, regardless of what said bet is. I’m happy to vote for either Qian or Myst, the latter of whom was entirely unwilling to propose any alternatives to Coder during the previous Day.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Just now, Myst said: Anyway, another thing to note is that Striker’s vote was moved off of Hoid So uhhhh….are you intentionally lying about what happened or just confused? A vote was moved from you to Hoid. Myst.
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: So uhhhh….are you intentionally lying about what happened or just confused? A vote was moved from you to Hoid. Myst. lol might be let me check again, you changed your vote twice, I did just wake up
Qianweilian He/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 7 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Maybe we should just start by exeing the folks we think are meta-elims. If they can’t participate in the pseudogame then there is a lower chance they succeed in their bet, regardless of what said bet is. That's true...I hesitantly agree, although I think we should spend more time trying to find out what the actual bet is. And Myst, being at least somewhat suspicious, feels like best choice. I however can't shake the feeling that we're missing something. 14 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I’m happy to vote for either Qian Now that I'm back home and able to actually look at the votes/posts I can see why. I would like to say I was unsure about how the spreadsheet actually worked with the first/second/third vote. I also wasn't trying to echo Striker (and you can see the final result was different), as I believe he submitted his votes later than mine (tbh, I can't remember whether they weren't there or I didn't really digest the information).
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 (edited) Okay. Yeah, it was moved off of me to Hoid. I am a little confused because why me. First Striker was moved(which may or may not have prevented me from going out, depending on whether Striker’s the lurker or not) and either Cad or Araris’s vote was not counted. So… huh, there’s not a role that could do that… even with Striker’s vote being moved I should have 2 I don’t Remember Cad voting me(I’ll go check, oh I see I confused him with striker) but this is weird, I just checked the rules and there’s not a role that makes someone’s vote not count, it just moves it, like we saw with striker. I’m very confused. That said, if this was the meta Elims, I think that means you should flip me in the meta game(since that has the least amount of consequences for dying) Obviously I don’t want to die here, but ya know, it’s just me edit: I think I misunderstood something else I think. I really need to reread what happened. Gimme a sec I’ll be back and hopefully more coherent edit 2: oh, I see, I once again confused Cad with Striker. Striker voted Hoid and Cad voted me and then a vote was moved from me to Hoid Oh, okay. That does mean half my above post is essentially wrong though. I am not in the mindset right now, wow Edited May 31 by Myst
___ He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said: Maybe we should just start by exeing the folks we think are meta-elims. If they can’t participate in the pseudogame then there is a lower chance they succeed in their bet, regardless of what said bet is. I’m happy to vote for either Qian or Myst, the latter of whom was entirely unwilling to propose any alternatives to Coder during the previous Day. 59 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: So uhhhh….are you intentionally lying about what happened or just confused? A vote was moved from you to Hoid. Myst. 42 minutes ago, Qianweilian said: That's true...I hesitantly agree, although I think we should spend more time trying to find out what the actual bet is. And Myst, being at least somewhat suspicious, feels like best choice. I however can't shake the feeling that we're missing something. Now that I'm back home and able to actually look at the votes/posts I can see why. I would like to say I was unsure about how the spreadsheet actually worked with the first/second/third vote. I also wasn't trying to echo Striker (and you can see the final result was different), as I believe he submitted his votes later than mine (tbh, I can't remember whether they weren't there or I didn't really digest the information). This is an uncomfortably fast train @StrikerEZ and @Araris Valerian Y'all are kinda tunnelling Araris you've seemed a bit suspicious to me
Qianweilian He/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 41 minutes ago, Myst said: First Striker was moved(which may or may not have prevented me from going out, depending on whether Striker’s the lurker or not) and either Cad or Araris’s vote was not counted. So… huh, there’s not a role that could do that… even with Striker’s vote being moved I should have 2 I don’t Remember Cad voting me(I’ll go check, oh I see I confused him with striker) but this is weird, I just checked the rules and there’s not a role that makes someone’s vote not count, it just moves it, like we saw with striker. I’m very confused. That said, if this was the meta Elims, I think that means you should flip me in the meta game(since that has the least amount of consequences for dying) On 5/17/2026 at 10:02 PM, The Unknown Medallion said: Thread Controller: You have a keen intellect and, admittedly, too much time on your hands. You can convince anyone to listen to you, even outside of the Pseudogame. You can move a Metagame vote. I do see you noticed that a vote was moved, but here's the role for anyone curious. 43 minutes ago, Myst said: Obviously I don’t want to die here, but ya know, it’s just me I wouldn't be too worried. It's relatively early in the cycle and I suspect a counter train will form. I mostly want to a) exe someone and b) try and pressure you to reveal more (if you are elim) 14 minutes ago, ___ said: This is an uncomfortably fast train I agree, but there's still a decent amount of time remaining in the cycle, and I doubt it will last. 15 minutes ago, ___ said: Araris you've seemed a bit suspicious to me I'd love to agree (considering how he seems sus of me), but I don't really see anything that is that suspicious about him.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Qianweilian said: That's true...I hesitantly agree, although I think we should spend more time trying to find out what the actual bet is. And Myst, being at least somewhat suspicious, feels like best choice. I however can't shake the feeling that we're missing something. Now that I'm back home and able to actually look at the votes/posts I can see why. I would like to say I was unsure about how the spreadsheet actually worked with the first/second/third vote. I also wasn't trying to echo Striker (and you can see the final result was different), as I believe he submitted his votes later than mine (tbh, I can't remember whether they weren't there or I didn't really digest the information). This post honestly doesn’t make me feel any better about you. 15 minutes ago, ___ said: @Araris Valerian Y'all are kinda tunnelling Araris you've seemed a bit suspicious to me What do you mean by tunneling? Usually that term means being fixated on someone so much that you are ignoring evidence.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Yeah this kind of seems like Mippo just using a word without fully getting the meaning. Which is fair. There’s lots of confusing SE lingo. But yeah, this isn’t tunneling, at least not yet. It could turn into that if we start really getting into the argument and Araris just refuses to consider other viewpoints. But so far Araris has posted like…twice? Not really much room for him to be ignoring evidence.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 I would actually say that the votes on Myst are a pretty natural development from the previous cycle. @___, based on the previous cycle, are you surprised that folks are voting for Myst? And do you have any particular reasoning for singling me out from among the folks voting for Myst?
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Alright guys I'm bored with some free time so here we go for an analysis *cracks knuckles* Been a while since I did this Evinir held the squab cupped in his hands, the size of a large acorn. The little thing trembled against his skin, its blue and yellow coat shimmering and shivering to reveal glimpses of pink skin. It had fallen from its nest, and would die if left alone. Evinir had heard its screeches from his mountain path, and traveled through the woods for five minutes to find it. He whispered to it, then slowly pulled a bowl of peas from his bag. They were soft, and the little bird consumed them ravenously. Then, Evinir waited, still crouching, as the baby shuffled and slowly relaxed in his hands, before shutting its eyes. He smiled. Evinir took the squab with him. He carried it in his hands, unsure of what he was going to do with it. But his many years had taught him how cruel the world could be to a solitary soul. How cruel death was to the innocent. At last, Evinir arrived at the cave that was his destination. Lighting a torch, he surveyed it, then lit sconces that lined its walls. There was scripture on the walls. Drawings, vignettes of men stabbing others. The Spiked had been here, once. Perhaps this place held answers. He would need to study it. But not now. No, not now. Evinir placed the bird carefully on one end of a stone slab, atop a makeshift nest he had made, and as the squab slept, he pulled out his spanreed and, by the torchlight, wrote. PSEUDO-CYCLE ONE SUMMARY: Striker pokes CadCom Verdance and Mippo are present Coco wants to talk about the elim bet I poke Araris Myst thinks the m-elims bet on a p-village win TJ likes Striker, votes Mippo for overplaying cluelessness Myst tries to strategize everyone revealing alignments TOW (Hopper?) votes me for not liking the above strategy Myst says he's already changed his vote twice but neither vote was done in thread Coco thinks elims chose village bet Kit_Kat exists Araris wants to chill on his porch Coco pokes Coder I vote Coder as well cause I'm of the belief that poke votes are redundant and if you actually wanna pressure someone you need at least two votes Mippo votes me for some reason VC 10 hours before rollover: Coder (3): Myst, Hoid, Coco Hoid (2): Hopper, Mippo CadCom (1): Striker Coco (1): Qian Qian (1): Araris Mippo (1): TJ Twin (1): Lettuce @Myst why was your vote on Coder? I don't think you explained it in thread Xino votes Coder last minute for also very weird reason Someone said Striker also changed his vote to me last minute PSEUDO-CYCLE ONE CONCLUSIONS There was very little going on. We had practically no trains. The Coder train was literally two poke votes and whatever Xino did. I woulda done something about it, but I was offline for the last like 12 hours pre-rollover. Due to Coder's now proven double innocence, I am inclined to tentatively view Striker as village for now for his vote switch. Due to a lack of Xino action, I am very inclined to believe his killer is a meta-elim. META-CYCLE ONE SUMMARY Striker pokes Myst, quickly retracts it Araris pokes Myst for unwarranted assumptions Coco claims to know who destroyed Scadrial (!) @coco.pudding care to make any elaboration at all? Verdance is still around doing nothing I vote Coder Coco follows me, votes Coder Myst votes Coder as well, but is clear about wanting to hop onto another train I like how much Myst is debating me here Myst tries to suicide, but I convince him not to Araris yaps a lot, doesn't like Qian due to pseudocycle votes Mippo votes Coder for lowkey literally no reason Verdance doesn't want to vote Coder cause they're friends TJ wants to save Coder for a reason I didn't understand then but do now, sorry TJ, votes me Striker also votes me CadCom votes Myst, says they will explain later - @CadCom care to explain now? Kit_Kat tries to vote for me at the end - @Kit_Kat care to explain why? META-CYCLE ONE CONCLUSIONS I still like Striker I actually slightly like TJ now that I understand why he was against me I'm getting negative vibes from Coco. I don't like how easily she backed me up on Coder And on that note, Mippo is also weird. Mippo also voted me pseudo-cycle 1 for unclear reasons. As for Myst - I actually like Myst a lot, partially due to private reasons I don't really want to divulge right now PSEUDO-CYCLE TWO SUMMARY (thus far) Araris votes Myst for not proposing any alternatives to Coder Striker votes Myst for something vote manip related, can someone explain it to me please? Nvm I figured it out by reading more Qian votes Myst - I don't like this, especially for all the suspicion piling on Qian recently for following other's votes Mippo votes Araris for "tunneling" on Myst with Striker OTHER STUFF On another note, I just found out what a PseudoIM is, and greatly encourage any PseudoIM to reveal their knowledge at this critical point (namely, where is our missing Coinshot). Although, as Striker mentioned, that PseudoIM likely belongs to the meta-elims - which is how they were able to snipe Xino. As for who to vote now: I don't like all the pressure on Myst. Of the three active votes on him, however, Araris and Striker both have reasonable justifications, and I like Striker right now That leaves Qian, and then there's also Coco who's passiveness I also don't like I think we can all agree that Xino is probably meta-village? In that case, I propose lowkey pulling another Coder and being prepared to exe whoever we exe here in the pseudocycle in the next metacycle as well since we're meta-elim hunting and that only works if we check the results of our hunt Alright I need a break
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: why was your vote on Coder? I don't think you explained it in thread Just an fyi, for future reference for everyone else who’s seemed to miss why I voted Coder, I have explained this on page 2-3 of meta cycle one if you’d like to see there. First off, I didn’t want to vote Coder, I ended up voting him because when I was awake there weren’t any other options. Well, Araris was voting me but Hoid got mad when I joined that. Anyways, an exe was better than no exe and we didn’t really have any other options at the time(I was asleep when people started voting Hoid) I had to vote because otherwise we wouldn’t have had the 3 votes needed(this was before Mippo joined the vote) I was vote number 3 and there were only 4 of us talking with Araris voting me. I didn’t want to exe Coder, I believe I straight up said we’d just be confirming him village, but it was that or no exe and I chose to vote Coder
Qianweilian He/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Crazy idea: Myst and Hoid team I mean, maybe. I don't really know how much evidence there is other than Hoid backs Myst.
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 14 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Crazy idea: Myst and Hoid team This actually reminds me of something I said N0, gimme a sec to pull it up
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 31 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Crazy idea: Myst and Hoid team Ngl it’d be pretty funny if we were in a meta-elim team of like 5 but we’re the only ones present and so we’re trying to carry this game alone
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 31 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: Coco claims to know who destroyed Scadrial (!) @coco.pudding care to make any elaboration at all? Yeah so someone confided to me in pms that they were a Spiked and were thinking about which world they might want to destroy. They were leaning toward Scadrial and I agreed that seemed like a dangerous world to keep around, especially considering the discussions about investiture funneling happening on Nalthis. I am fairly sure this person is meta-village, just based on the way they have acted both in pms and thread. I would rather not expose them unless they would like to come forward since it was shared with me in confidence. The only reason I shared this information in the first place is because it seemed useful as context when we were talking about Scadrial’s destruction. 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: I'm getting negative vibes from Coco. I don't like how easily she backed me up on Coder I gotta say this feels a bit hypocritical. Earlier in the same post you said one vote isn’t enough and now you don’t like me adding a second vote? 1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said: Ngl it’d be pretty funny if we were in a meta-elim team of like 5 but we’re the only ones present and so we’re trying to carry this game alone Yeah that would suck. Although tbh that’s probably the case regardless of who is an elim bc so few people are active.
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 1 minute ago, coco.pudding said: Yeah that would suck. Although tbh that’s probably the case regardless of who is an elim bc so few people are active. 3 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Ngl it’d be pretty funny if we were in a meta-elim team of like 5 but we’re the only ones present and so we’re trying to carry this game alone Plot twist 2: everyone active is meta Elim except for one person and we’re all putting on a charade for that one person
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 1 minute ago, coco.pudding said: I gotta say this feels a bit hypocritical. Earlier in the same post you said one vote isn’t enough and now you don’t like me adding a second vote? I do think one vote isn’t enough, I just know not that people often don’t do things for the same reasons that I do Just now, Myst said: Plot twist 2: everyone active is meta Elim except for one person and we’re all putting on a charade for that one person Yep @Araris Valerian I guess it’s time to drop the act
Araris Valerian he/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: I do think one vote isn’t enough, I just know not that people often don’t do things for the same reasons that I do Yep @Araris Valerian I guess it’s time to drop the act I'm pretty sure I've been advocating for mass murder this entire time, so it's not me that needs to drop the act .
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said: I'm pretty sure I've been advocating for mass murder this entire time, so it's not me that needs to drop the act . You should see what Striker’s been saying in PMs, he wants to make everyone coinshots
Qianweilian He/him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, Myst said: Plot twist 2: everyone active is meta Elim except for one person and we’re all putting on a charade for that one person I actually think that would be a fun blackout/break tank without an elim doc
Mystic He/Him Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Just now, Qianweilian said: I actually think that would be a fun blackout/break tank without an elim doc That’s sort of happened. My first game was an Andor game where the rebels didn’t know who were their teammates were but there was a rebel spymaster(Doc) who once a cycle could target someone and if they were a rebel they’d get added to a Elim doc
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