The Unknown Character he/him Posted May 11 Posted May 11 7 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said: Yes, but it still bugs me that there isn't even an attempt at an Countertrain, I have the feeling that we are missing something, I just dont know what we are missing. The best explanation for a countertrain is that the elims have decided to bus/not oppose Fizz. Doing so would implicate them after his flip, so not pursuing him or even being on the train is much safer
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 11 Posted May 11 K well @Fizz9 reminder to drop any useful info you may have before you die. If you flip village, we’ll probably actually trust what you say.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 11 Author Posted May 11 @Myst @Verdance @coco.pudding @___ @Through The Living Star @Fizz9 @Through the living Wahr @DrakeMarshall @IcedOutPenguin @The Unknown Medallion We’ve got just under three hours left. Please make sure to get all your votes and actions in before rollover! Current VC: Fizz9 (4): Myst, Verdance, DrakeMarshall, The Unknown Medallion Please let me know if I’ve missed any votes.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted May 11 Posted May 11 PSA that my vote doesn't count today again >:[ anyone want to claim responsibility for this time or the last time? ...in any case, y'all should be the change you want to see in the world If multiple people are saying they're unhappy there's no counterwagon, then go out and make one Fizz' response to being voted hasn't especially made me want to back off, sorry Fizz if you're village. But I would still actually prefer if we had more than one (1) option under discussion. Whether or not Fizz is a hit, the lack of movement is not good. I'm really not the right person to be doing this given my position on Fizz, and the fact that my vote doesn't count. But cowabunga it is to put my cards on the table, I'm dubious about Coco's claimed ability. I'm not sure that I buy there's a scanner with 2+ actions in the game (still no definite answer on that but it must be at least 2 based on what Coco has said so far), high power level or no. I'm also not sure that I buy those scan results. Now, there's an argument to leave Coco alive and see if more scans come in, which could help us sort things out by just waiting. That might well be the right argument, I'm not sure. But somehow I think elim Coco just says she got blocked. Or village Coco actually does get blocked. In the meantime we might keep voting out the wrong people, whereas addressing this gives us either a dead elim and a suspect pool of 2 or at least 2 hardclears. ....so maybe we just bite the bullet and exe the scanner Thoughts? 5 hours ago, coco.pudding said: Same. I am bothered that no attempts at a counter train have been made the last two days (until the very end of yesterday). This indicates to me that we’re probably not on the right track with Fizz. But I am willing to vote him I guess, I just don’t think he’s an elim, I don’t feel like the elims would let one of their own go so early like this. ...Coco's also been dissatisfied with the Fizz train without quite going as far as trying to stop it, which has me tinfoiling Coco/Fizz E/V. 5 hours ago, coco.pudding said: Yes, I am aware of that fact. I am also well aware that my survival next cycle hinges on Fizz flipping village. also tying her alignment to Fizz' flip here, although TBF I think Myst really did that first am I playing devil's advocate here well maybe a little but storm it somebody's gotta do something here and I think we really should be talking about whether we believe the scanner claimant more than we are
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 11 Posted May 11 37 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: If multiple people are saying they're unhappy there's no counterwagon, then go out and make one See but last time I did that it made everyone decide I’m elim, which is why I’ve decided to not do it again. 38 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: I'm not sure that I buy there's a scanner with 2+ actions in the game (still no definite answer on that but it must be at least 2 based on what Coco has said so far), high power level or no. I'm also not sure that I buy those scan results. It’s not exactly a scanner, all I can see is if they have pms with anyone. If they don’t, that means they can’t be elim. I just got lucky and hit two people who didn’t have any pms. 39 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Now, there's an argument to leave Coco alive and see if more scans come in, which could help us sort things out by just waiting. That might well be the right argument, I'm not sure. I will happily continue scanning and sharing my results for as long as you all/the elims let me. That being said it might become less useful as time goes on and more people get pms. 40 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Coco's also been dissatisfied with the Fizz train without quite going as far as trying to stop it, which has me tinfoiling Coco/Fizz E/V. Again, when I tried to stop it yesterday everyone decided I’m elim because of it. So that’s why I’m not trying harder today. Also, I’ve been at work all day today and will continue to be until rollover so I can’t really have a back and forth like yesterday. 41 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: TBF I think Myst really did that first He did, yes. 42 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: am I playing devil's advocate here well maybe a little but storm it somebody's gotta do something here and I think we really should be talking about whether we believe the scanner claimant more than we are I mean, nobody’s bothering believing me because they’ve all jumped to assuming I’m elim and everything I say is a lie, which is (I assume) why there’s not much discussion of whether or not I’m telling the truth about my scans.
Wahrheitswächter He/Him Posted May 11 Posted May 11 14 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: I mean, nobody’s bothering believing me because they’ve all jumped to assuming I’m elim and everything I say is a lie, which is (I assume) why there’s not much discussion of whether or not I’m telling the truth about my scans. Well I am inclined to believe that your scan results are accurate, yes I know that doesnt mean much since they clear me, but I know that I dont have private Player communication and am therefore inclined to believe that your claim about TUM is also true.
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted May 11 Posted May 11 1 hour ago, StrikerEZ said: @Myst @Verdance @coco.pudding @___ @Through The Living Star @Fizz9 @Through the living Wahr @DrakeMarshall @IcedOutPenguin @The Unknown Medallion We’ve got just under three hours left. Please make sure to get all your votes and actions in before rollover! Mine doesn't count today
___ He/Him Posted May 11 Posted May 11 59 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: Mine doesn't count today Neither does mine, but I'll go and vote penguin. It seems likely that you wrote the message, as it seems any suspicion instantly came off you
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 12 Author Posted May 12 And that's the Cycle! No more posting, voting, or submitting actions till we get the next one out!
Doc12 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) “This is outrageous, it’s unfair!” Nail protested, as the mob bore down on him. “I’m not a killer! I’m just a simple messenger!” He could fight them off. As a Burl, he was much larger and stronger than most of the other species, but he’d been trying so hard to learn to be a good Superiority citizen! He’d taken vows of nonviolence and enlightenment! He’d worked so hard be the first Burl to be acknowledged as possessing Primary Intelligence! Unlike yesterday, the crowd was unanimous. Cryax was nowhere to be found after he had teleported away the previous day, that sneaky Kitsen. So now he was the sole target of suspicion. Nail sat down heavily onto the pavement as Naux read out the list of his perceived crimes. Goolius, on Naux’s shoulder, mimicked every third word. Nail loved the Superiority. He loved it so much that he wouldn’t violate their principles even as his doom drew close. In the end, Superiority Security broke up the crowd. Picked him up, took him to a big portal to some place where they said no one could hurt him, and where he could hurt no one. Nail closed his eyes, trusted in the Superiority, and walked in. ----------------- Naux wasn’t one to brag, usually, but he was really one of the most powerful people in the entire Diplomacy. Not only was he a cytonic Kitsen, he was the cytonic Kitsen, with a veritable array of powers at his disposal! Mindblades! Inhibition! Even Communication! Truly no other Kitsen could be so blessed! He declared as much to his attackers, in the formal way of the Kitsen. Cowards, all of them, ambushing him. But he, at the very least, would do the honorable thing and warn them of his nigh-unlimited power, so they might have a chance to reconsider attacking him. A little bit into the fray, Naux began to realize that there might be perhaps a gap in his abilities - the ability to jump out of dangerous situations - He’d never needed it before! Kitsen never run! And besides, he was so powerful! As mindblades flew and crashed against inhibition barriers, Naux found himself wishing he had mastered just one more ability. “Ironic,” said one of his killers, wiping blood off their knife. “All that power… He could save others from death, but not himself.” “The Tragedy of Sir Naux the Powerful,” lamented the other. ----------- In her office, Aire took in the report. Two more loyalists dead. She regretted those deaths, of course. She was still raised to believe in peace and nonviolence. But she would regret letting the Superiority solidify their grasp on this sector more. She reached into the encrypted radio, found the encrypted frequency. “This is Ichor. Begin phase two.” ----------- Fizz9 was executed, They were a Loyal Citizen and a Cytonic Communicator! Myst was killed! They were a Loyal Citizen and a Cytonic Mindblader, Inhibitor and Non-Cytonic Communicator! Vote Count: Fizz9 (3): Myst, Verdance, TUM Coco.Pudding (0): DrakeMarshall IcedOutPenguin (0): ___/Mippo Player List: Spoiler @Myst - Naux, a dark red Kitsen. Probably an engineer. Loyal Citizen @Verdance - Goolius, a hyperslug. @coco.pudding - Azren, the Varvax HR IR employee. @TwinStorm - Rane, who seeks to be falling all the time. Loyal Citizen @___ - Cryax, a stellar Kitsen fighter pilot. @Through The Living Star - Kitar, a young UrDail medic with a disposition towards oversharing. @Fizz9 - Nail, smashy guy. Loyal Citizen @Through the living Wahr - Zrraii, a Resonant monitoring life support. @Qianweilian - A Heklo with a name no one can pronounce. Loyal Citizen @DrakeMarshall @IcedOutPenguin @The Unknown Medallion - Smartslug, a smart slug. There will be a vote for removal during this Cycle. There is no vote minimum, and a tied vote will result in a random choice between all tied players. In addition, there is a possibility for kill from the Dissidents to occur this Cycle. As a reminder, PMs can only be opened if you have access to Cytonic Communications. If you do, please submit the request in your GM PM and one of us will open the PM for you as soon as we see it. If you have any moderation concerns, do not hesitate to ask @Araris Valerian for help! This Cycle will end at 7 PM CDT/ 8 PM EST on Tuesday, May 12th. Edited May 12 by Doc12 4
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 12 Author Posted May 12 Minor correction: Myst had Non-Cytonic Communication, not Cytonic Communication.
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 12 Posted May 12 …so, can I say I told you so now? Anyways I’ve been inhibited again, as I expected after all the discussion regarding my ability last cycle. There are 8 players left. In my view, three are cleared (myself, Wahr, TUM). That leaves three? elims among five people, which is a pretty good ratio. I would love to hear from @Through The Living Star where were you last cycle? Also, I did attempt to target you, but since I was blocked it didn’t count. I’m curious if you have PMs with anyone other than Fizz? (And also if you’re the one who inhibited me, if that’s the case, it was very rude and I am not appreciative) @___ I would also love to hear from you. Why vote for Penguin at the end there? (I’ll admit I’m also a little bit sus of Penguin, and he was my other attempted target last night, but I’m curious to hear your reasoning a little more in depth) ps @Doc12 the references are not getting out of hand, they’re excellent
Verdance he/him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 I am less than suspicious of Star, though i am more suspicious of her now than last cycle Coco could still be an elim or not. I need to go back and do a reading to decide, but neither cleared nor suspicious anymore mippo seems unusual. I dont know why. Hes more quiet than usual? penguin… i have no idea. Same with Drake. why is wahr clear? Why is TUM clear?
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 minutes ago, Verdance said: why is wahr clear? Why is TUM clear? Neither of them have any PMs, which means they can’t be elim, since elim doc also shows up on the pm scan
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Goated tags. So. Tricky situation we are in now. Lets take a look at all the remaining players Verdance - Voted Fizz C2 and C3, Fizz turned out to be innocent. And didn't vote C1 coco - Voted Qian C1 and ___/mippo C2. One is innocent, one hyperjumped. Because ___/mippo was on the chopping block and by a vote change they could've prevented it by voting anyone else E/E coco/mippo seems unlikely ___/mippo - Voted Qian C1 and me(rude) C3, didn't vote C2, therefore contributing to their own execution (where they survived by hyperjump) Star - Haven't heard much from them and they haven't voted ever Whar - Voted Verdance C1, and ___/mippo C2. Similarly because of that E/E Whar/mippo seems unlikely Drake - Voted Wahr, ___/mippo, and coco in each cycle respectively TUM - voted null, then Fizz, then Fizz again, who turned out to be innocent ~~~ Overall, TUM, coco, Verdance, and ___/mippo, have all voted on an innocent death. TUM and Verdance have voted together every time, and notably were on the Fizz train C2, and ___/mippo and coco were on Qian C1. To me Drake is the only confirmed V, and the best course of action would be to exe ___/mippo or Star this round
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: To me Drake is the only confirmed V, and the best course of action would be to exe ___/mippo or Star this round Why is Drake confirmed village? With the low numbers of votes every cycle (except the last one) it would be very easy for the other two elims to be doing the voting and he doesn’t have to do anything for them to still get what they want. Anyways I do agree about mippo or star, I want their responses before I decide though
___ He/Him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 19 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: …so, can I say I told you so now? Anyways I’ve been inhibited again, as I expected after all the discussion regarding my ability last cycle. There are 8 players left. In my view, three are cleared (myself, Wahr, TUM). That leaves three? elims among five people, which is a pretty good ratio. I would love to hear from @Through The Living Star where were you last cycle? Also, I did attempt to target you, but since I was blocked it didn’t count. I’m curious if you have PMs with anyone other than Fizz? (And also if you’re the one who inhibited me, if that’s the case, it was very rude and I am not appreciative) @___ I would also love to hear from you. Why vote for Penguin at the end there? (I’ll admit I’m also a little bit sus of Penguin, and he was my other attempted target last night, but I’m curious to hear your reasoning a little more in depth) ps @Doc12 the references are not getting out of hand, they’re excellent I had been suspicious of penguin for a bit because of the message and his reaction, and I decided to vote him because my vote didn't count anyway and I wanted to bring the message thing to people's attention Last time I spontaneously voted someone at the end of the cycle, they turned out to be elim (archer in a game not long ago, can't remember which) 12 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: Goated tags. So. Tricky situation we are in now. Lets take a look at all the remaining players Verdance - Voted Fizz C2 and C3, Fizz turned out to be innocent. And didn't vote C1 coco - Voted Qian C1 and ___/mippo C2. One is innocent, one hyperjumped. Because ___/mippo was on the chopping block and by a vote change they could've prevented it by voting anyone else E/E coco/mippo seems unlikely ___/mippo - Voted Qian C1 and me(rude) C3, didn't vote C2, therefore contributing to their own execution (where they survived by hyperjump) Star - Haven't heard much from them and they haven't voted ever Whar - Voted Verdance C1, and ___/mippo C2. Similarly because of that E/E Whar/mippo seems unlikely Drake - Voted Wahr, ___/mippo, and coco in each cycle respectively TUM - voted null, then Fizz, then Fizz again, who turned out to be innocent ~~~ Overall, TUM, coco, Verdance, and ___/mippo, have all voted on an innocent death. TUM and Verdance have voted together every time, and notably were on the Fizz train C2, and ___/mippo and coco were on Qian C1. To me Drake is the only confirmed V, and the best course of action would be to exe ___/mippo or Star this round Why is drake V? And I'm gonna actually vote penguin now
Verdance he/him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 20 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: Neither of them have any PMs, which means they can’t be elim, since elim doc also shows up on the pm scan But to be clear. You scanned them?
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, Verdance said: But to be clear. You scanned them? Yep, during the second cycle.
Verdance he/him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, coco.pudding said: Yep, during the second cycle. Has anyone else? I half trust you, half don’t.
coco.pudding she/they Posted May 12 Posted May 12 5 minutes ago, Verdance said: Has anyone else? I half trust you, half don’t. Nobody else has claimed that ability yet, so idk.
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 30 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: Why is Drake confirmed village? With the low numbers of votes every cycle (except the last one) it would be very easy for the other two elims to be doing the voting and he doesn’t have to do anything for them to still get what they want. Actually, good point. Anyone could be Elim. 21 minutes ago, ___ said: Last time I spontaneously voted someone at the end of the cycle, they turned out to be elim (archer in a game not long ago, can't remember which) And I killed an elim as a coinshot once, we are not the same
___ He/Him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, IcedOutPenguin said: Actually, good point. Anyone could be Elim. And I killed an elim as a coinshot once, we are not the same If it ain't broke don't fix it
___ He/Him Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, Verdance said: Im curious as to what this proves. You got lucky once? Last time my hunch was right, so I'm inclined to go with it again
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