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1 minute ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Why?  Why does mister Sanderson hate the original Mistborn trilogy so much?

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[Aliroz-The-Confused]

5 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

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By writing an adaptation, he declares that his earlier work is not good enough and needs to be changed, improved, altered, adapted, ruined.

It's incredibly disrespectful to the two people who still like the original books, and to Moshe Feder who worked so hard to edit them.

He doesn't treat any of his other works this horribly, he doesn't act as though Tress of The Emerald Sea needs to be improved.

Edited January 29 by Aliroz-The-Confused

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Just now, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

By writing an adaptation, he declares that his earlier work is not good enough and needs to be changed, improved, altered, adapted, ruined.

It's incredibly disrespectful to the two people who still like the original books, and to Moshe Feder who worked so hard to edit them.

He doesn't treat any of his other works this horribly, he doesn't act as though Tress of The Emerald Sea needs to be improved.

I would argue an adaptation shows love

It shows he wishes it to grow, see new heights.

[Shatter He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Why?  Why does mister Sanderson hate the original Mistborn trilogy so much?

He is writing it. And producing it. And being a consultant for it. And approving stuff for it. 

I do believe he likes this. 

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4 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Why?  Why does mister Sanderson hate the original Mistborn trilogy so much?

Now what makes you say that?

[Shatter He/Him]

1 minute ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

By writing an adaptation, he declares that his earlier work is not good enough and needs to be changed, improved, altered, adapted, ruined.

It's incredibly disrespectful to the people who still like the original books, and to Moshe Feder who worked so hard to edit them.

He doesn't treat any of his other works this horribly, he doesn't act as though Tress of The Emerald Sea needs to be improved.

mmmm. nope. Making a movie adaptation shows an even greater love for it. Also a Tress of the Emerald Sea movie would be AMAZING.

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Just now, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

By writing an adaptation, he declares that his earlier work is not good enough and needs to be changed, improved, altered, adapted, ruined.

It's incredibly disrespectful to the two people who still like the original books, and to Moshe Feder who worked so hard to edit them.

He doesn't treat any of his other works this horribly, he doesn't act as though Tress of The Emerald Sea needs to be improved.

I don’t see adapting Mistborn into a movie as him hating the books. It’s a new medium for the story, one that can do things books can’t, and can’t do things that books can. 

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Just now, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

It's incredibly disrespectful to the two people who still like the original books...

???

I like the original books, and know more than one other person who does. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply here.

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

 

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

I would argue an adaptation shows love

It shows he wishes it to grow, see new heights.

It doesn't NEED to grow, to see new heights.  It needs to be preserved, maintained, sustained!

We know he outright loathes Elantris, having said as much in interviews.

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10 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

By writing an adaptation, he declares that his earlier work is not good enough and needs to be changed, improved, altered, adapted, ruined.

It's incredibly disrespectful to the people who still like the original books, and to Moshe Feder who worked so hard to edit them.

He doesn't treat any of his other works this horribly, he doesn't act as though Tress of The Emerald Sea needs to be improved.

Well he has talked about a Tress movie as well, so I'd say they are in the same camp.

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Dang tomorrow will have a lot of posts

Spoiler

 

Edited January 29 by Frustration

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10 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Well he has talked about a Tress movie as well, so I'd say they are in the same camp.

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Dang tomorrow will have a lot of posts

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That's normal

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

Look, there's one and only one way I'm accepting this, and that's if mister Sanderson at long last remembers his roots.  Like Elantris, the Mistborn trilogy is is LDS fiction at its heart where girls don't kiss until 16, earrings are morally suspect, the true scripture is preserved in metal, the good guys never do drugs or gamble or swear (and if they do it's Ds and Hs) or drink caffeinated substances, preserving the memory of the past is a sacred duty, and dresses are always past the knee.  Alcohol is only had by adult anti-heroes and even then in moderation.  Breeze, the token worldly scumbag on the team, exists as a contrast to the actual protagonists. 

The casual reality of genocide, religious persecution, and the entire world being horrible and against you and full of sin and evil and not at all anything like the paradisiacal glory it ought to be (and becomes, in the end) resonates with, rather than contradicts, this framework, because that is the heritage and the worldview.

Mister Sanderson didn't drink Appeal-To-The-Hedonistic-Masses-With-Bawdy-Jokes-And-Go-PG-13 juice until 2010's The Way Of Kings.

Edited January 29 by Aliroz-The-Confused

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1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

That's normal

The shard just hallucinates like that?

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14 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Well he has talked about a Tress movie as well, so I'd say they are in the same camp.

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Dang tomorrow will have a lot of posts

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What're you talking about

2 minutes ago, Frustration said:

The shard just hallucinates like that?

Perhaps it's you who's hallucinating

Spoiler

This is meant to be a joke, no offense intended

 

Edited January 29 by KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren

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2 minutes ago, Frustration said:

The shard just hallucinates like that?

that was sarcastic.

Just now, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

What're you talking about

Perhaps it's you who's hallucinating

also time travelers

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15 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

By writing an adaptation, he declares that his earlier work is not good enough and needs to be changed, improved, altered, adapted, ruined.

It's incredibly disrespectful to the two people who still like the original books, and to Moshe Feder who worked so hard to edit them.

He doesn't treat any of his other works this horribly, he doesn't act as though Tress of The Emerald Sea needs to be improved.

To be fair, Brandon has a very cinematic style, and Mistborn would probably work better as a film than as a book, especially since Brandon's biggest weakness (prose) won't matter. Also, it was his second published book, and he's improved a lot since then as a writer. 

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3 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

What're you talking about

Perhaps it's you who's hallucinating

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This is meant to be a joke, no offense intended

 

The 34 posts are for the 29th, today is the 28th.

6 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Look, there's one and only one way I'm accepting this, and that's if mister Sanderson at long last remembers his roots.  Like Elantris, the Mistborn trilogy is is LDS fiction at its heart where girls don't kiss until 16, earrings are morally suspect, the true scripture is preserved in metal, the good guys never do drugs or gamble or swear (and if they do it's Ds and Hs) or drink caffeinated substances, preserving the memory of the past is a sacred duty, and dresses are always past the knee.  Alcohol is only had by adult anti-heroes and even then in moderation.  Breeze, the token worldly scumbag on the team, exists as a contrast to the actual protagonists. 

The casual reality of genocide, religious persecution, and the entire world being horrible and against you and full of sin and evil and not at all anything like the paradisiacal glory it ought to be resonates with, rather than contradicts, this framework, because that is the heritage and the worldview.

Mister Sanderson didn't drink Appeal-To-The-Hedonistic-Masses-With-Bawdy-Jokes-And-Go-PG-13 juice until 2010's The Way Of Kings.

I'd definitely prefer a clean version of the film to the alternative.

Edited January 29 by Frustration

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4 minutes ago, Frustration said:

The 34 posts are for the 29th, today is the 28th.

I'd definitely prefer a clean version of the film to the alternative.

No

Today is the 29th

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

4 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

No

Today is the 29th

It's the 28th.

[Hmmm lies she/her]

18 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Look, there's one and only one way I'm accepting this, and that's if mister Sanderson at long last remembers his roots.  Like Elantris, the Mistborn trilogy is is LDS fiction at its heart where girls don't kiss until 16, earrings are morally suspect, the true scripture is preserved in metal, the good guys never do drugs or gamble or swear (and if they do it's Ds and Hs) or drink caffeinated substances, preserving the memory of the past is a sacred duty, and dresses are always past the knee.  Alcohol is only had by adult anti-heroes and even then in moderation.  Breeze, the token worldly scumbag on the team, exists as a contrast to the actual protagonists. 

The casual reality of genocide, religious persecution, and the entire world being horrible and against you and full of sin and evil and not at all anything like the paradisiacal glory it ought to be resonates with, rather than contradicts, this framework, because that is the heritage and the worldview.

Mister Sanderson didn't drink Appeal-To-The-Hedonistic-Masses-With-Bawdy-Jokes-And-Go-PG-13 juice until 2010's The Way Of Kings.

I don't think the Mistborn trilogy is the absolute LDS piece you think it is.

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Brandon Sanderson

When I was working on Mistborn 2 with my editor, he asked me, "Are Vin and Elend sleeping together?" I said, "Absolutely." He requested some confirmation of it on the page, and I explained something that has always been my policy, and one that has served me well.

I consider what I'm writing to be a very detailed script, which you the reader direct in your mind. Each person's version of the books will be slightly different, but in sometimes telling ways. The subtext of conversations will change, the visualizations of the characters, even larger implications are changed, distorted, and played with by the reader as they build the story in their imagination.

This is an area in which I prefer to leave the answers to the reader. For those who wish to imagine that the characters are having sex, then the implications are often there. (Though I've gotten better at that balance, I feel.) For those who don't want to imagine it, and wish to pretend the characters are living different standards, I will often leave the opportunity for that--unless it is a plot point I consider relevant.

Certainly, my upbringing and beliefs are an influence on this. I'm obviously more circumspect in these areas than I am in others.

But yes, for those who don't want to pretend otherwise, Vin and Elend were sleeping together. And Wax and Lessie never had a real ceremony. My editor tried to remove the word "wife" from one of the later books, and I insisted, as the shift in Wax's thinking was a deliberate point on my part--related to his changing psychology in the books. But even to him, it's more a 'common law wife' thing.

As a side note you'll likely find amusing, I do get a surprising number of emails from people who complain to me (even take me to task) for the amount of objectionable material I include in my books, and ask me why I have to wallow in filth as much as I do. I'm always bemused by this, as I doubt they have any idea how the books are perceived in this area by the general fantasy reading world...

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General Reddit 2016 (March 24, 2016)

The two get married in Chapter 48, close to the end of the book, so Elend and Vin were clearly engaging in premarital sex. I know you distaste the WOBs, but this is very clearly something he had in mind while he was writing WoA. 

 

Regardless, I've always found Mistborn Era 1 to be far more PG-13 than the Stormlight Archive ever was.

Edited January 29 by Hmmm lies

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7 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

No

Today is the 29th

Ah, you're Australian.

For us it's the 28th still

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

WOBS AREN'T CANON.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

1 minute ago, Frustration said:

Ah, you're Australian.

For us it's the 28th still

Yup.

I suspect that it's close to midnight in whatever timezone the Shard operates, as for me, this thread was created today, so there shouldn't be anything in the 28th.

[Nesh he/him]

4 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

I don't think the Mistborn trilogy is the LDS piece you think it is.

The two get married in Chapter 48, close to the end of the book, so Elend and Vin were clearly engaging in premarital sex. I know you distaste the WOBs, but this is very clearly something he had in mind while he was writing WoA. 

 

Regardless, I've always found Mistborn Era 1 to be far more PG-13 than the Stormlight Archive ever was.

Not to mention all the stuff that happens to the skaa, Era 1 wasn't exactly shy about that, even if it didn't show it often (and it never overtly showed what happened to skaa women nobles took a liking to, thank god.)

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9 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

WOBS AREN'T CANON.

And why is that?

They are the Words Of Brandon, yes?