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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Hi everyone! For everyone asking where I've been all day, first of all Drake insisted on starting the game at midnight when I was asleep, then I had a morning job, and after the job I had something very important.

Meet the newest addition to my family, Syl! (picture attached)

I will start making PMs soon. 

So looks like I arrived in time to see a tie building! Fun!

First of all, there seems to be a mistake in the vote count. By my count, TJ has 4 - unless I'm mistaken,  IHAT/Broken hasn't changed their vote from TJ

TJ (4): Exp, IHAT/Broken, Vessel of Honor,  Storm

Stick (3): Araris, TUO, KSauce

Fura (3): Hoid, Fura, Mippo/Story

Araris (2): Jo, TJ

Huh

I'd missed it

I don't like the vibes Fura's giving in PMs

It isn't much, but I'd rather they be exed than TJ

Stick Fura

TJ (4): Exp, IHAT/Broken, Vessel of Honor,  Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (4): Hoid, Fura, Mippo/Story, KSauce

Araris (2): Jo, TJ

1 minute ago, Furamirionind said:

Lol everyone is saying this... did I just come across super mean last game and people assumed thats my normal or something? Lol

Im all for a tie... however, if theres a tie and a villager dies then Alv is evil obviously : P

to those i havent pmed yet im sorry. sorill be back on later but probably not to open more PMs. Feel free to PM me or ill finish opening PMs at night if im still alive.

quick rundown from my PMs, im highly confident that the elims flooded the town with smokers. I may or may not have already said this but im on mobile so im not going to check.

In honor of good honest ties, ill move my vote to Araris and @Doc12 (or someone else) can vote on me lol

Fura

Araris

Oh ninja'd

TJ (4): Exp, IHAT/Broken, Vessel of Honor,  Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (3): Hoid, Mippo/Story, KSauce

Araris (3): Jo, TJ, Fura

 

So TJ shall be exed. I don't like that.

Edited by Ookla the Wallfacer
Posted

Okay, well it appears that the elims have smoker bombed us, which is honestly really smart. Village smokers aren't that great compared to elim smokers as they can block seekers from either clearing or outing players. I believe that some elims will also use the large amount of smokers to try to blend in and will also claim smoker.

One good thing that we can take from this (assuming we are flooding with smokers) is that it is less likely that the elims took any vote manipulation so we should probably keep that in mind.

Oh also TJ

Not that I necessarily want fura to die but i dont really have anything against tj either at this point so...

Posted

Oh I forgot to respond to me seeing the message and not responding. Idk why that happened but its happened to quite a few people today... I think thats because I have a bunch of tabs open on my computer and phone so stuff is resolving on one when using the other? Anyways thats just my guess.

Ill vote on myself right before rollover if that makes a tie... but we also have a couple hours so I dont think they votes how they are rn is a problem

Posted
1 minute ago, Ookla the Counter said:

Okay, well it appears that the elims have smoker bombed us, which is honestly really smart. Village smokers aren't that great compared to elim smokers as they can block seekers from either clearing or outing players. I believe that some elims will also use the large amount of smokers to try to blend in and will also claim smoker.

One good thing that we can take from this (assuming we are flooding with smokers) is that it is less likely that the elims took any vote manipulation so we should probably keep that in mind.

Oh also TJ

Not that I necessarily want fura to die but i dont really have anything against tj either at this point so...

TJ (3): IHAT/Broken, Vessel of Honor,  Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (3): Hoid, Mippo/Story, KSauce

Araris (3): Jo, TJ, Fura

@DrakeMarshall, if the elims give us a bunch of roles, is it possible for a villager to end up with multiple?

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

@DrakeMarshall, if the elims give us a bunch of roles, is it possible for a villager to end up with multiple?

It is not possible no, that’s the one limit on the Spiked donating roles to the village is that villagers can’t have multiple roles. At some point there’s no more room in the distro and you cannot donate additional roles.

Spiked can theoretically have multiple roles, though, due to the magicks of hemalurgy. But I would assign every Spiked at least one role before considering giving anyone multiple.

Edited by DrakeMarshall
Posted

Given the prevalence of Smokers, I'm guessing the Eliminators have either a Thug or a Mistborn, The village has a Tineye, seeker, rioter, soother, and 8 smokers. I suspect there are no Lurchers or Coinshots in the game. That would be a somewhat boring game, but fairly safe.

I want to say something about the current state of the Vote, but tbh I was expecting 48 hours to be able to do analysis, and I'm not going to change my plans to do analysis now when it's only day 1. Suffice to say I'll leave my vote where it is for now, but I don't really want to execute any of the folks currently in the running.

Also, if anyone knows who John is, I need to figure out where he lives so I can burn his house down. He's selling bread-products in town which means he's a rival of my pa's bakery.

Posted

Also I think it is better if all village smokers don't use their smoke on the off chance that there is a village seeker because we don't want that to get in the way. Unless I'm missing something, but I think it's not likely that elims have vote manip anyways so it should be safe to not smoke. 

 

Posted
11 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

It is not possible no, that’s the one limit on the Spiked donating roles to the village is that villagers can’t have multiple roles. At some point there’s no more room in the distro and you cannot donate additional roles.

Spiked can theoretically have multiple roles, though, due to the magicks of hemalurgy. But I would assign every Spiked at least one role before considering giving anyone multiple.

Alright.

9 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

Given the prevalence of Smokers, I'm guessing the Eliminators have either a Thug or a Mistborn, The village has a Tineye, seeker, rioter, soother, and 8 smokers. I suspect there are no Lurchers or Coinshots in the game. That would be a somewhat boring game, but fairly safe.

I want to say something about the current state of the Vote, but tbh I was expecting 48 hours to be able to do analysis, and I'm not going to change my plans to do analysis now when it's only day 1. Suffice to say I'll leave my vote where it is for now, but I don't really want to execute any of the folks currently in the running.

Also, if anyone knows who John is, I need to figure out where he lives so I can burn his house down. He's selling bread-products in town which means he's a rival of my pa's bakery.

Interesting. That would leave the elims with some points to spare, however. If this were the case, they'd have enough to remove the Seeker, which is a bad sign.

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

Also I think it is better if all village smokers don't use their smoke on the off chance that there is a village seeker because we don't want that to get in the way. Unless I'm missing something, but I think it's not likely that elims have vote manip anyways so it should be safe to not smoke. 

 

I second this.

Posted

Since I gave (ill admit about more detailed) breakdown in a PM, I figured i should share at least some of my distro thoughts here.

With 21 points based on what im seeing atm:

-steal smoker x2 (15p)

-steal mb (8p)

-remove coinshot (4p)

-either steal tineye or remove lurcher (0)

This isnt 100% necessarily what I think happened... for instance if there is a village lurcher in this game its possible they stole 2 MB instead of 2 smokers. 

My logic is that removing a seeker costs the same as stealing 2 smokers. 2 smokers means 4 elims (what I think the elim team is) will all be smoked. That makes a seeker unhelpful and means vote manip against them is all bad. It also gives all 4 the smoker bluff but they could of course say other things as well.

Gotta go for a bit but I also agree smokers dont smoke people and Seeker(s) try to target people if possible you have claims of non smoker from

Posted
4 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

Also I think it is better if all village smokers don't use their smoke on the off chance that there is a village seeker because we don't want that to get in the way. Unless I'm missing something, but I think it's not likely that elims have vote manip anyways so it should be safe to not smoke. 

 

That’s risky, if we have an Elim seeker, then we’re letting them find out who has what, and depending on whether they left us a coinshot or lurcher or anything, then they could find that out and target them. It doesn’t look like that’s the case, but it’s there’s a world where the people claiming to be smokers are Elims trying to disguise that they have the seeker. I haven’t had a lot of people tell me their smokers, so idk how many have told all of you. That number would say something 

Posted
1 minute ago, Furamirionind said:

Since I gave (ill admit about more detailed) breakdown in a PM, I figured i should share at least some of my distro thoughts here.

With 21 points based on what im seeing atm:

-steal smoker x2 (15p)

-steal mb (8p)

-remove coinshot (4p)

-either steal tineye or remove lurcher (0)

This isnt 100% necessarily what I think happened... for instance if there is a village lurcher in this game its possible they stole 2 MB instead of 2 smokers. 

My logic is that removing a seeker costs the same as stealing 2 smokers. 2 smokers means 4 elims (what I think the elim team is) will all be smoked. That makes a seeker unhelpful and means vote manip against them is all bad. It also gives all 4 the smoker bluff but they could of course say other things as well.

Gotta go for a bit but I also agree smokers dont smoke people and Seeker(s) try to target people if possible you have claims of non smoker from

They can only steal one of each power, since by default there's only one of each in the Village

Unless... @DrakeMarshall can they donate powers and immediately steal them?

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Hypothetically yes

Oh, so we could be going against 3 Elim mistborn or thugs.

Edit: this could be bad… when we vote a thug or a thug is killed, is their affiliation revealed? Cause if not… we could kill an elim and not know…

Edited by Ookla the Broken
Posted
5 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

That’s risky, if we have an Elim seeker, then we’re letting them find out who has what, and depending on whether they left us a coinshot or lurcher or anything, then they could find that out and target them. It doesn’t look like that’s the case, but it’s there’s a world where the people claiming to be smokers are Elims trying to disguise that they have the seeker. I haven’t had a lot of people tell me their smokers, so idk how many have told all of you. That number would say something 

I think the chances of an elim seeker are slim, and also it's better to be able to have a seeker hard clear a villlage or find someone is elim and take the chance of an elim seeker finding a role, as although roles are important, finding alignments of elims is what wins the game.

Posted
1 minute ago, Ookla The Vessel Of Honor said:

TJ 

Mippo

What is your reasoning for this?

You feel like an elim being told to vote mippo by your teammates

Fura Honour's Ghost

TJ (2): IHAT/Broken, Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (2): Hoid, Mippo/Story

Araris (3): Jo, TJ, Fura

Mippo (1): Honour's Ghost

Honour's Ghost (1): KSauce

Just now, DrakeMarshall said:

Hypothetically yes

Oh

Does this leave Unsnapped or can they donate, steal and re-donate?

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Oh, so we could be going against 3 Elim mistborn or thugs.

Edit: this could be bad… when we vote a thug or a thug is killed, is their affiliation revealed? Cause if not… we could kill an elim and not know…

Yes this is a huge problem

The good thing is, if we find multiple Thugs, at least one is probably elim.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

I think the chances of an elim seeker are slim, and also it's better to be able to have a seeker hard clear a villlage or find someone is elim and take the chance of an elim seeker finding a role, as although roles are important, finding alignments of elims is what wins the game.

Okay, yeah, that’s fair. I’d still like to know how many people have claimed smoker. Ookla the wanderer did it publicly and Fura mentioned other in PMs. Idk if others have had it as well. Just the number, if you don’t want to tell me who that’s fine. I’d just like to make sure we have multiple smokers and it’s not just the Elims pretending 

Posted
Just now, Ookla the Broken said:

Okay, yeah, that’s fair. I’d still like to know how many people have claimed smoker. Ookla the wanderer did it publicly and Fura mentioned other in PMs. Idk if others have had it as well. Just the number, if you don’t want to tell me who that’s fine. I’d just like to make sure we have multiple smokers and it’s not just the Elims pretending 

I'm a Smoker.

Posted

okay, so vibes

Doc is giving village rn. Sure I said earlier I know he's village and will defend him to the death, but legitimately the vibe hes giving in PMs is the kind of thing I like.

Ksauce is fairly neutral for me. I have been pretty friendly in the past with Ksauce, like Doc, so theres an unhealthy amount of bias in my feelings rn, but I liked how he reached out to contact me. He did also claim Smoker immediately, which is alignment indicative, but something about the vibe feels wrong. It makes sense for the elims to hide among the Smokers. Also asked me some interesting questions, abt Fura, who up til now I've had no real contact with.

Hoid, I've had limited reactions with, but has been very honest and up front thus far. Clearly busy irl, but I respect the energy.

Fura is giving me Kas vibes thats good

Posted
17 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

Interesting. That would leave the elims with some points to spare, however. If this were the case, they'd have enough to remove the Seeker, which is a bad sign.

Ah. I did my math wrong. Oops.

14 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

That’s risky, if we have an Elim seeker, then we’re letting them find out who has what, and depending on whether they left us a coinshot or lurcher or anything, then they could find that out and target them. It doesn’t look like that’s the case, but it’s there’s a world where the people claiming to be smokers are Elims trying to disguise that they have the seeker. I haven’t had a lot of people tell me their smokers, so idk how many have told all of you. That number would say something 

hmmmm, i want to think about this more, but this post gives me eliminator vibes.

8 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Oh, so we could be going against 3 Elim mistborn or thugs.

Edit: this could be bad… when we vote a thug or a thug is killed, is their affiliation revealed? Cause if not… we could kill an elim and not know…

i highly doubt its 3 elim thugs, just because that sounds boring.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Okay, yeah, that’s fair. I’d still like to know how many people have claimed smoker. Ookla the wanderer did it publicly and Fura mentioned other in PMs. Idk if others have had it as well. Just the number, if you don’t want to tell me who that’s fine. I’d just like to make sure we have multiple smokers and it’s not just the Elims pretending 

I have been told in pms that there are at least 6 smokers, though I have only had 3 actually claim it.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

I have been told in pms that there are at least 6 smokers, though I have only had 3 actually claim it.

 

10 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

I'm a Smoker.

Okay, yeah, they’ve definitely flooded us with smokers. Let the seeker do their thing. And hope they’re village, which so far seems likely. 
edit: I forgot my reasoning: 6 smokers is way to many. If there’s five Elims, all of them claiming smoker this early is so suspicious and a really bad idea as if they get caught using any other ability ( thug or something) than they’re instantly outed 

Edited by Ookla the Broken
Posted
18 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

What is your reasoning for this?

You feel like an elim being told to vote mippo by your teammates

Fura Honour's Ghost

TJ (2): IHAT/Broken, Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (2): Hoid, Mippo/Story

Araris (3): Jo, TJ, Fura

Mippo (1): Honour's Ghost

Honour's Ghost (1): KSauce

Oh

Does this leave Unsnapped or can they donate, steal and re-donate?

Yes this is a huge problem

The good thing is, if we find multiple Thugs, at least one is probably elim.

Idk😭😭 I kinda was just like I was voting TJ bc other people did but maybe it’d be better to vote someone with no votes for fun?

18 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Okay, yeah, that’s fair. I’d still like to know how many people have claimed smoker. Ookla the wanderer did it publicly and Fura mentioned other in PMs. Idk if others have had it as well. Just the number, if you don’t want to tell me who that’s fine. I’d just like to make sure we have multiple smokers and it’s not just the Elims pretending 

I’m a smoker

I go bed now night yall

 

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