Aeoryi she/her Posted August 8, 2025 Author Posted August 8, 2025 And that's the cycle! Please standby for cycle 2. 2
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 8, 2025 Author Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) QF76: Cycle 2 - Justice is Blind Skybreaker Uranihran didn’t like special cases. Special cases were exemptions. They were unfair. But the Skybreaker was not in the authority to decide what was fair and what was not. The law was to decide that. He floated in towards the group. They were in the exact same spot as they had met, on the rocky shores of the Purelake. “We have decided that ThatOneWorldhopper is guilty,” Wishikk Makar said softly. "His character was too ambiguous for us." Uranihran nodded. “Tell me, what is your task?” “To find and eliminate the criminals within our group.” The hopeful said. “However, I have concerns. What is the purpose of this? Why are you forcing us to play your game?” “I think you will appreciate this experience, hopeful,” the full Skybreaker said, “When you become a Skybreaker.” “But why make us play this… game? Talk during the day and be forced to declare one player to die each morning?” “This is not a game. It is a task.” Uranihran said softly. “Seth. The one here because of a clerical error. Where are they? Have they run off?” Even with his soothing voice, there was a malicious spark that was lit within Uranihran. These hopefuls believed they had seen the law. No, they had merely seen its ideal form. There was another form of the law. Consequences. He knew exactly what was happening. He could even stop it. He would be praised for his ability to aid the law, and he would’ve done his duty. However, then what of the hopefuls? To advance a journey, the hopefuls would need to be vouched for by a full Skybreaker. What was there to vouch for if Uranihran did everything himself? “He isn’t here, is he?” The Skybreaker asked. “You have now seen the consequence of failure. There is a reason why public order requires these people to be removed from society.” “You know where Seth is?” Wishikk Makar asked. The Skybreaker glared at the hopeful. “This is the consequence of your actions. One of these consequences is the lack of knowledge. In this world, nothing can ever be certain when criminals run free. Justice is blind. You will not gain knowledge from the law, only order.” “One casualty. One person who you may never see again. The only one so far, as a result of your untimeliness. This is your first lesson. ThatOneWorldhopper, please step forward.” Uranihran lashed the person far into the sky. “ThatOneWorldHopper will no longer impede your quest for justice. Continue. I believe there are still criminals in your group.” ~ ThatOneWorldhopper was a Justice Seeker Protector! The Unknown Order was a Justice Seeker Thinker! Quote Votecount: ThatOneWorldhopper: (3) The Unknown Order, Aeternum, Hoid Slayer Aeternum: (2) KelsierApologist, Doc12 IcedOutPenguin: (2) KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren, Booknewt AskthePizzaGuy: (1) IcedOutPenguin KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren: (1) ThatOneWorldhopper CoderDrag0n8: (1) Twinstorm Twinstorm: (1) CoderDrag0n8 Cycle 2 has begun! It will end in 24 hours on August 8th, at 9:00 PM ET. Notes: PMs are Closed. Please do not edit in votes; if you have to edit in a vote, please ping me so I can make sure I track it. Be mindful of double-posting. Players: Spoiler The Unknown Order as Seth - Justice Seeker Thinker @Aeternum @TwinStorm as Kaladfin @Doc12 as Inspector Javert @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren as Starseeker ThatOneWorldhopper as ? - Justice Seeker Protector @Hoid Slayer as Wishikk Makar @IcedOutPenguin as Richard @StrikerEZ as Var @KelsierApologist as Mehlarin @Askthepizzaguy as Greebas Obdilaurd @CoderDrag0n8 as CD @Booknewt Edited August 8, 2025 by Aeoryi Redid some formatting. 3
Doc12 Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) Well. 39 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Give a good enough reason [To switch to Worldhopper] in the next four minutes, and I might consider switching Care to make a vote that actually matters? (No offense) 34 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Pizza ThatOneWorldhopper I want Iced to live I think we can all agree that the Worldhopper vote came out of nowhere. The UnknownOrder poked Worldhopper early in the cycle, and then in the very last hour of the cycle Aeternum and then Hoidslayer pile onto the vote to edge out the tie. This is even though Hoid Slayer asked Aeternum to give them a reason and said they didn't like Aeternum's reason. They voted for Worldhopper anyway. Purely because they didn't want ONE player to die out of the 3. 37 minutes ago, Aeternum said: [Re: Me voting for Aeternum] Yeah so this is an elim if TOW is an elim, everyone take notes rn. I'm actually more inclined to forgive Aeternum because TOW was a village and this seemed like they genuinely did not know, but Hoid Slayer changing their vote at the very last minute to protect a player that really had no reason to be more or less innocent than anyone else is suspicious as hell. Edited August 8, 2025 by Doc12
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 Hoid Slayer, your methods leave much to be desired.
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) The whatever non-Justice Seeker faction has a murder that also happens during "day" since this is a day and night combined game. So they choose the murder while the entire group chooses the daily vote elimination. I remain unimpressed with CD's votes and methods. I remain unimpressed with Iced / Richard's votes and methods. Edited August 8, 2025 by Askthepizzaguy adding additional comments, as per the anti-doublepost instructions.
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 Oh, I will admit Hoid Slayers vote switch seems odd to me. It was to save me though... I do think Hoid Slayer is still innocent, I think more that someone else set this up. Probably someone experienced.
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: Oh, I will admit Hoid Slayers vote switch seems odd to me. It was to save me though... I do think Hoid Slayer is still innocent, I think more that someone else set this up. Probably someone experienced. Vague mutterings of a conspiracy don't impress me much, name names. edit, elaboration- Connect the dots on who is doing what to cause "this" being "set up" Edited August 8, 2025 by Askthepizzaguy
Aeternum Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 30 minutes ago, Doc12 said: This is even though Hoid Slayer asked Aeternum to give them a reason and said they didn't like Aeternum's reason. They voted for Worldhopper anyway. Purely because they didn't want ONE player to die out of the 3. Yeah that was weird, given voting TOW wasn't the only option to save Iced. Also very last second. I am curious as to why @Hoid Slayer believes strongly that Iced is town tbh, given how strong both players have been defending each other. 5 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: I do think Hoid Slayer is still innocent, I think more that someone else set this up. Probably someone experienced. Case in point. Why? For all three things. Why do you think Hoid Slayer is town? What makes you call "this" (which idk exactly what that refers to here if you could clarify) set up? What makes you say that's something an experienced person would be doing? Who do you think would be the experienced person setting things up? I'm not sure who you'd be counting as experienced here ngl, there's a couple new to SE players here who are not new to mafia, so I'd count them as experienced. Which would make the majority of the playerlist afaik experienced.
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 My current intention is to vote only between Hoid, Iced, and CD today. 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: Alright friends shall we spice things up a little? Lot of people saying they think CD is suspicious but letting it slide a little because they're new, but if I'm going to vote for an exe I'm going to vote for what is weird. CoderDrag0n8 Three way tie, ladies and gentlemen. What happens now? AskthePizzaGuy: (2) Hoid Slayer, IcedOutPenguin IcedoutPenguin: (2) Booknewt, KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren CoderDrag0n8: (2) Twinstorm, Doc12 Aeternum: (1) KelsierApologist Twinstorm: (1) CoderDrag0n8 KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren: (1) ThatOneWorldhopper ThatOneWorldhopper (1): TheUnknownOrder AskthePizzaGuy: (2) Hoid Slayer, IcedOutPenguin IcedoutPenguin: (2) Booknewt, KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren CoderDrag0n8: (2) Twinstorm, Doc12 Aeternum: (1) KelsierApologist Twinstorm: (1) CoderDrag0n8 KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren: (1) ThatOneWorldhopper ThatOneWorldhopper (1): TheUnknownOrder In my opinion this is a possible explanation for why end of day chaos happened and there was a sudden wagon on OneWorld. As soon as Aeternum voted for Oneworld, that provided a likely 2 innocent wagon on an innocent, which is why Hoid switched off of me. Because I don't believe his belief that I was ever guilty, nor his sudden desire to conveniently drop it, either. So unless a better theory comes along as to why that happened, my suggestion is to burn Hoid, followed by Coder or Iced, and then reassess from there.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 40 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: QF76: Cycle 2 - Justice is Blind Skybreaker Uranihran didn’t like special cases. Special cases were exemptions. They were unfair. But the Skybreaker was not in the authority to decide what was fair and what was not. The law was to decide that. He floated in towards the group. They were in the exact same spot as they had met, on the rocky shores of the Purelake. “We have decided that ThatOneWorldhopper is guilty,” Wishikk Makar said softly. "His character was too ambiguous for us." Uranihran nodded. “Tell me, what is your task?” “To find and eliminate the criminals within our group.” The hopeful said. “However, I have concerns. What is the purpose of this? Why are you forcing us to play your game?” “I think you will appreciate this experience, hopeful,” the full Skybreaker said, “When you become a Skybreaker.” “But why make us play this… game? Talk during the day and be forced to declare one player to die each morning?” “This is not a game. It is a task.” Uranihran said softly. “Seth. The one here because of a clerical error. Where are they? Have they run off?” Even with his soothing voice, there was a malicious spark that was lit within Uranihran. These hopefuls believed they had seen the law. No, they had merely seen its ideal form. There was another form of the law. Consequences. He knew exactly what was happening. He could even stop it. He would be praised for his ability to aid the law, and he would’ve done his duty. However, then what of the hopefuls? To advance a journey, the hopefuls would need to be vouched for by a full Skybreaker. What was there to vouch for if Uranihran did everything himself? “He isn’t here, is he?” The Skybreaker asked. “You have now seen the consequence of failure. There is a reason why public order requires these people to be removed from society.” “You know where Seth is?” Wishikk Makar asked. The Skybreaker glared at the hopeful. “This is the consequence of your actions. One of these consequences is the lack of knowledge. In this world, nothing can ever be certain when criminals run free. Justice is blind. You will not gain knowledge from the law, only order.” “One casualty. One person who you may never see again. The only one so far, as a result of your untimeliness. This is your first lesson. ThatOneWorldhopper, please step forward.” Uranihran lashed the person far into the sky. “ThatOneWorldHopper will no longer impede your quest for justice. Continue. I believe there are still criminals in your group.” ~ ThatOneWorldhopper was a Justice Seeker Protector! The Unknown Order was a Justice Seeker Thinker! Cycle 2 has begun! It will end in 24 hours on August 8th, at 9:00 PM ET. Notes: PMs are Closed. Please do not edit in votes; if you have to edit in a vote, please ping me so I can make sure I track it. Be mindful of double-posting. Players: Reveal hidden contents The Unknown Order as Seth - Justice Seeker Thinker @Aeternum @TwinStorm as Kaladfin @Doc12 as Inspector Javert @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren as Starseeker ThatOneWorldhopper as ? - Justice Seeker Protector @Hoid Slayer as Wishikk Makar @IcedOutPenguin as Richard @StrikerEZ as Var @KelsierApologist as Mehlarin @Askthepizzaguy as Greebas Obdilaurd @CoderDrag0n8 as CD @Booknewt Wishikk shut his eyes tight. In his head, the flames laughed, mocking him. You can never be right, they whispered. Not unless everyone else is wrong. And that was a far more frightening world. The screams of his fellow artifabrians, the ones he had invited to witness his breakthrough, had woken him up that morning, sweating yet shivering. He had thought himself wise then, too; how wrong he had been. So was the way of things. 37 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Well. I think we can all agree that the Worldhopper vote came out of nowhere. The UnknownOrder poked Worldhopper early in the cycle, and then in the very last hour of the cycle Aeternum and then Hoidslayer pile onto the vote to edge out the tie. This is even though Hoid Slayer asked Aeternum to give them a reason and said they didn't like Aeternum's reason. They voted for Worldhopper anyway. Purely because they didn't want ONE player to die out of the 3. I'm actually more inclined to forgive Aeternum because TOW was a village and this seemed like they genuinely did not know, but Hoid Slayer changing their vote at the very last minute to protect a player that really had no reason to be more or less innocent than anyone else is suspicious as hell. 35 minutes ago, Askthepizzaguy said: Hoid Slayer, your methods leave much to be desired. 10 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: Oh, I will admit Hoid Slayers vote switch seems odd to me. It was to save me though... I do think Hoid Slayer is still innocent, I think more that someone else set this up. Probably someone experienced. Just now, Aeternum said: Yeah that was weird, given voting TOW wasn't the only option to save Iced. Also very last second. I am curious as to why @Hoid Slayer believes strongly that Iced is town tbh, given how strong both players have been defending each other. Case in point. Why? For all three things. Why do you think Hoid Slayer is town? What makes you call "this" (which idk exactly what that refers to here if you could clarify) set up? What makes you say that's something an experienced person would be doing? Who do you think would be the experienced person setting things up? I'm not sure who you'd be counting as experienced here ngl, there's a couple new to SE players here who are not new to mafia, so I'd count them as experienced. Which would make the majority of the playerlist afaik experienced. Alright, I know a lot of shade is being thrown on me here, so let me try to explain my perspective here. 1. I was desperate. As Doc mentioned, I literally changed my vote at the last minute. Is it a decision I will regret? Maybe. So why did I make it? Frankly, my options were to either outright eliminate Penguin or Worldhopper, or leave it to fate. And honestly, I wasn't the most confident in my read against either Pizza nor Worldhopper; both of them were nearly equally suspicious in my eye (Pizza edging Worldhopper out - I had no read on the latter, and only a light elim read on the former), yet I did feel quite good about my read about Penguin. This was due mainly to his initial suspicion against Coder; it might have been something little, but it seemed genuine to me. And later, when he switched to Pizza (a vote other accused him of bandwagoning on) I interpreted it as him simply using my same logic. So, put simply: am I 100% sure Penguin is village? No. But whether Pizza or World was exed, it was similar to me. So I would rather it be one of them than Penguin; and I acted in service of that. I understand why some condemn me for my actions. But I believe in my justification of them. Far more important, to me, are the people that had a chance to but didn't sway the vote the way I did. Particularly since the fact that a three way tie literally went until the last minute suggests the elims didn't particularly care about it's result - which in turn suggests that all three trains were innocents. Is this something I perhaps should have thought of earlier before making my last minute decision? Perhaps. But the realization didn't come to me then. To address Penguin's concerns: my move was forced, yes, but I don't think it was set up by anyone. My actions were mine. On another topic, why do we think TUO was exed? What was he doing that was dangerous to the elims? On yet another topic, @Aeoryi, I have a question that I don't know if you can answer but the answer to could be important: Do you choose the elims specifically or select them randomly? Heads up that I'm gonna be quite busy tomorrow (first day of school) so this could be my last real post before rollover, other than perhaps a pop-in to vote. Finally, I'll have to review the rules to see what roles we lost in TUO and World.
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, Askthepizzaguy said: Vague mutterings of a conspiracy don't impress me much, name names. edit, elaboration- Connect the dots on who is doing what to cause "this" being "set up" YOU! IT WAS YOU! You have done nothing but antagonize me throughout cycle one. Greebas 2 minutes ago, Aeternum said: Why? For all three things. Why do you think Hoid Slayer is town? What makes you call "this" (which idk exactly what that refers to here if you could clarify) set up? What makes you say that's something an experienced person would be doing? Who do you think would be the experienced person setting things up? I'm not sure who you'd be counting as experienced here ngl, there's a couple new to SE players here who are not new to mafia, so I'd count them as experienced. Which would make the majority of the playerlist afaik experienced. I did say, Hoid Slayers' vote was... suspicius at best. BUT, it did save me, so I'm going to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. Something I learned recently, mafia experience ≠ SE experience. I think there was a setup somewhere in the last cycle, but I can't quite place where it would've been, probably with the start of the TOW train. My best bet for who wouldve set it up is actually you.
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: You have done nothing but antagonize me throughout cycle one. By suggesting your votes and methods are wrong? As opposed to you trying to kill me for literally zero reason. Also I'm pretty sure I did lots.... and lots..... and lots.... and lots more things than even mentioning your name particularly. Why are you lying? Edited August 8, 2025 by Askthepizzaguy more thoughts
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 1 minute ago, Askthepizzaguy said: By suggesting your votes and methods are wrong? As opposed to you trying to kill me for literally zero reason. I've done it before.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: YOU! IT WAS YOU! You have done nothing but antagonize me throughout cycle one. Greebas I did say, Hoid Slayers' vote was... suspicius at best. BUT, it did save me, so I'm going to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. Something I learned recently, mafia experience ≠ SE experience. I think there was a setup somewhere in the last cycle, but I can't quite place where it would've been, probably with the start of the TOW train. My best bet for who wouldve set it up is actually you. Again, I don’t think anyone set me up Plus, I’m leaning pro-Greebas right now due to the fact his potential elim companions did nothing to get him away from the line of fire. The guy didn’t even vote in self preservation, the weirdness of which I’m only realizing now
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 It's pretty clear I have no companions, other than blue ones. Nor am I anything but innocent. I was willing to die to protect anyone else in the game if they were under fire. Of course, sniping someone when they can't defend themselves, on zero discussion, doesn't keep important town powers alive, does it?
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 8, 2025 Author Posted August 8, 2025 10 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: On yet another topic, @Aeoryi, I have a question that I don't know if you can answer but the answer to could be important: Do you choose the elims specifically or select them randomly? Elims were chosen completely at random. This is typically the case in SE games.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, Askthepizzaguy said: Nor am I anything but innocent. I was willing to die to protect anyone else in the game if they were under fire. Personally, I don't understand why you - if you know you are Village - were willing to die for people who could be elim. Honestly, there's a lot about you that's weird. But I'm gonna put you in the clear for now, for not getting rescued and for your lack of self-preservation - however weird it is. 2 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: Elims were chosen completely at random. This is typically the case in SE games. Okay, thanks
Ookla the Newt she/her Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 18 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: Something I learned recently, mafia experience ≠ SE experience. Well, that's helpful to know actually. I've been going by mafia experience...
Aeternum Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 7 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: YOU! IT WAS YOU! You have done nothing but antagonize me throughout cycle one. Greebas I did say, Hoid Slayers' vote was... suspicius at best. BUT, it did save me, so I'm going to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. Something I learned recently, mafia experience ≠ SE experience. I think there was a setup somewhere in the last cycle, but I can't quite place where it would've been, probably with the start of the TOW train. My best bet for who wouldve set it up is actually you. This is a post of all time. What exactly has Pizza been doing to antagonize you...? What are you referring to by "there was a setup"? In v!you worlds, do elims even need to "set up" on TOW like that, if that's how you're referring to it? I'm flattered you think I threadpulled, but what exactly did I do to set this up? Again, I need a specific on what exactly you're referring to by there being a setup. You've voted Pizza here while saying that you think I set something up. Can you explain your vote a bit more here? Mafia experience doesn't really equal SE experience in some games, but forum mafia experience often does, specifically in this game because it's very normal by forum mafia standards (where I play, at least). 13 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: On another topic, why do we think TUO was exed? What was he doing that was dangerous to the elims? Usually it would be either due to being widely townread (ftr I figured NK would be between you and TUO based on consensus reads), or because he was right on something. In terms of reads, TUO mentioned he liked Pizza here, and that's it. So yeah. Not sure if I'd be able to rule out anyone not making that NK in this situation. 15 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Finally, I'll have to review the rules to see what roles we lost in TUO and World. TOW was doctor (aka Up to X times per game, may target any player to protect them from being killed. A protector may not protect themselves or any other player who has the Protector role.) TUO was tracker (aka Up to X times per game, may target a player to learn who they visited on that cycle. If the thinker discovers that their target did target another player, they are given an extra usage of their first ability that they must use on the next cycle. Any additional usages will not have this returning capability.) For convenience since I had to check too
Askthepizzagal He/him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Personally, I don't understand why you - if you know you are Village - were willing to die for people who could be elim. Because not only were town AWOL and scattered like lost sheep no matter who their names were, but people weren't bothering to actually solve, sans like 4 names. Didn't instill in me a lot of confidence that the guilty parties were going to flip that day. The end result is rather predictable when the process happening all day was 1. "Vote this person for no reason." Me: No, but I'd be happy to talk about why some folks are town. Or if you have reasons for your votes. 2. "You, not voting people for no reason. DO IT OR DIE." Me: no thank you. 3. "You're not giving reads" Me: Here are reads on literally all the players. 4. "You're roleplaying too much in this game where you're supposed to play it in character the whole time" Me: k, kill me for it then, see where that gets you. 5. "UHHHHH GET THIS RANDOM GUY INSTEAD AT THE LAST MINUTE." Me: ..... There were precious few players, let alone town reads, doing anything besides that. Didn't think there was a high chance of a hit, call me crazy. My character sure is. edit All of those thoughts needed to be expressed. I shall get some sleep soon, to assess worlds where everything that just happened, occurred with 1, 2, or 3 townies where my current suspects names are. Because game usually isn't that easy. Edited August 8, 2025 by Askthepizzaguy additional thoughts, no doublepost. 1
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 10 minutes ago, Booknewt said: Well, that's helpful to know actually. I've been going by mafia experience... Mafia is based on interpreting physical cues, whilst SE has a much larger focus on what they say - and everything they say is specially curated so as not to reveal anything (if you’re an elim). Scary thing is, an elim could go an entire game theoretically without saying anything incriminating - so really, the emphasis is less on what they say, and more who they support - or don’t. Except even then, there’re layers upon layers… so yeah, a lot of it is just us winging it. 5 minutes ago, Aeternum said: Usually it would be either due to being widely townread (ftr I figured NK would be between you and TUO based on consensus reads), or because he was right on something. In terms of reads, TUO mentioned he liked Pizza here, and that's it. So yeah. Not sure if I'd be able to rule out anyone not making that NK in this situation. Probably the wide town read + the fact he’s an experienced player - cause honestly, I was also pretty worried for myself. 5 minutes ago, Aeternum said: TOW was doctor (aka Up to X times per game, may target any player to protect them from being killed. A protector may not protect themselves or any other player who has the Protector role.) TUO was tracker (aka Up to X times per game, may target a player to learn who they visited on that cycle. If the thinker discovers that their target did target another player, they are given an extra usage of their first ability that they must use on the next cycle. Any additional usages will not have this returning capability.) For convenience since I had to check too Thanks Dang - I really messed up with TOW 1 minute ago, Askthepizzaguy said: Because not only were town AWOL and scattered like lost sheep no matter who their names were, but people weren't bothering to actually solve, sans like 4 names. Didn't instill in me a lot of confidence that the guilty parties were going to flip that day. The end result is rather predictable when the process happening all day was 1. "Vote this person for no reason." Me: No, but I'd be happy to talk about why some folks are town. Or if you have reasons for your votes. 2. "You, not voting people for no reason. DO IT OR DIE." Me: no thank you. 3. "You're not giving reads" Me: Here are reads on literally all the players. 4. "You're roleplaying too much in this game where you're supposed to play it in character the whole time" Me: k, kill me for it then, see where that gets you. 5. "UHHHHH GET THIS RANDOM GUY INSTEAD AT THE LAST MINUTE." Me: ..... There were precious few players, let alone town reads, doing anything besides that. Didn't think there was a high chance of a hit, call me crazy. My character sure is. I get that And I know I’m guilty of some of that myself
Doc12 Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 18 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said: I think there was a setup somewhere in the last cycle, but I can't quite place where it would've been, probably with the start of the TOW train. The Unknown One was the first vote on Worldhopper, and he's dead now. He actually voted pretty early, 6 hours before cycle end. the suspicious part is that, given a 3 way tie between CD, Penguin, and Pizza, 1) Aeternum decided to create a 4 way tie and 2)Hoid Slayer decided that he needed to save Penguin. I think the thing with ties is that while it is very possible that the elims saw 3 innocents up for death and decided to do nothing, villagers who have no information are much more likely to go 'might as well see which one dies and go from there' while elims would be much more motivated to save one person from the vote. 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: Care to make a vote that actually matters? (No offense) What I noticed in that last hour is that Pizza seemed ambivalent to whether or not they died, and that Hoidslayer was very motivated to try and save Penguin, not liking when I voted for CD or Aeternum. Hoid Slayer, you have explained your reasoning of why you trust Penguin. I guess I am still confused because you said you were suspicious of Pizza still, despite them giving you clear thoughts which was what you asked for in the beginning. I am also confused why no one cared to vote for CD. I understand again that this is their first game and people want to show mercy, but to me it was weird how up to 3 people said that they were weird but refused to act on that suspicion.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 2 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Hoid Slayer decided that he needed to save Penguin. I wouldn’t use the word needed, it was more of a desperate tactical decision that I am somewhat regretting after seeing his erratic behavior at the start of C2 3 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Hoid Slayer, you have explained your reasoning of why you trust Penguin. I guess I am still confused because you said you were suspicious of Pizza still, despite them giving you clear thoughts which was what you asked for in the beginning Clarity wasn’t the only reason I was suspicious of him. Honestly, there was a lot that struck me as kind of odd about his behavior, which translated into an e-read for me with lack of a better target, except for maybe- 4 minutes ago, Doc12 said: I am also confused why no one cared to vote for CD. I understand again that this is their first game and people want to show mercy, but to me it was weird how up to 3 people said that they were weird but refused to act on that suspicion CD, who as you just said, I didn’t want to vote out because it’s his first time. Plus, right now we’re in a situation where both he and Penguin are acting kinda weird - yet I struggle to think they could be elim together due to their initial conflict.
Doc12 Posted August 8, 2025 Posted August 8, 2025 1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said: there was a lot that struck me as kind of odd about [Pizza's] behavior, which translated into an e-read for me with lack of a better target, except for maybe CD, who as you just said, I didn’t want to vote out because it’s his first time. Plus, right now we’re in a situation where both he and Penguin are acting kinda weird Given this, who are you planning to vote for this cycle?
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