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[MirkerLurker she/her]

3 hours ago, Honors ghost said:

*Sooooooo many hugs*

 

Fricking quoting people can’t fartin figure it out 

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Hugs for glass like 20 billion of em 

I got a poem I wanna know what people think

Honesty

It’s a scary thing

I know deep down

That it should be easy 

But it’s not

It’s so easy 

To add

A teeny little detail to a story to make it better

Or to say something

Out of fear that people will get mad at me

But the hardest part about honesty 

Is being honest to myself 

And that

That’s what’s really scary 

Partly because who you are

It’s never definitive 

Always changing

Daily sometimes 

But I think 

That if you can be truly

Honest 

To everyone 

Including yourself 

That’s how you become who you are 

and who you want to be

And they’re are things I don’t want to be honest about

There

Are parts of my life 

I’m not too proud of 

And I don’t think I’m ready to face that yet 

But I want to be

Someday 

I’m going to be honest

With myself  

And With everyone 

And then

Then can I be the best version of me

That's wonderful. I love it. Very accurate.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

8 hours ago, Through The Living Glass said:

*squeezes so tightly*

 

 

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hey guys

ik most of you already know this but i'm not doing very well rn

hugs would be nice

 

hugs

[MirkerLurker she/her]

On 7/4/2025 at 2:32 AM, Denisimo said:

Ok, to reply your thing about counselling, let me say this about my family; My mother is trained in certain areas of child psychology, and qualified to diagnose certain conditions such as ADHD and Autism.
She believes that phobias are simply a part of life, and my Thanatophpbia is reltively normal. Now, I don't know enough about people in genera to know whether you are all existential thanatophbes, so i just take her word for it. 
So... she sees no point in sending me to counselling for thanatophobia.
Furthermore, it isn't outwarly affecting anything I suppose. I am personally a stoic or try to be one, and I see no reason to stoop otheers in my issues. The only reason why I am speaking to you all about ths is because I am under the presumption that your empathy does not reach a level to which you immediatly feel immense sorrow of my whingings from, in all likelyhood, the other damn side of the world.

I also personally see no point in councelling for this issue. I have been tested by psycologists and doctors and etc, and I was found to have a certain aptitude for a range of subjects and reasonings, one of which is philosphy and introspection. This in itself has sent me into a lot of downward spirals of crippling doubt but it never causes any real problems mostly.

Ok, to answer your direct questions: I believe that this fear is logical becaue fear is in itself a wish for selfpreservation. When you fear death, you try not to die. Thus, your brain inadvertantly keeps you alive while accidenally wrapping some people like me into an endless philsophical turmoil.

Death scares me one main way; I am not religious. I have no faith, and I mean that literally. I find it foolish (sorry, I might offend a few people here) that people can blindly believe in some magic hocus pocus force that will send them to a magically magical land of their damned dreams when they die. I know a LOT of religions and spent some time practicing as many as I could to try to find some sort of faith, but they all failed. Thus, my logical conclusion (and thus why I am a nihilist) is that once we die, the electrical signals in our brains that make up our conciousness and our thoughts fizziles out, and we just die. No afterlife.
just a dark void, which we can't even storming PERCIEVE because we have no concoiusness. YOU DISAPPEAR FROM THE UNIVERSE. NO INKLING THAT YOU EVER EXISTED. Storm my legacy, because even if you are remebered that changes science in no way whatsoever, and your conciousness will still poof into nothingness.
No thoughts.
No feelings.
I suppose some would argue "Oh BuT It'Ll Be JuSt LiKe SleePiNg" or perhaps "BuT hOw cAn yOu fEaR It you caN't Even PercCiEve it" 
BUT I DONT WANT TO GO INTO NOTHINGNESS AGH
 

Welcome. We have cookies.
Nothng, in reality, does matter.
Humans are weird.

"This in itself has sent me into a lot of downward spirals of crippling doubt but it never causes any real problems mostly."

Are spirals of crippling doubt not a real problem? (In your opinion. I have my own, but yours is the one that matters when it comes to your own mind.) 
Another question to ask: Would you like this fear to change, to go away? Or are you ok with things staying the way they are? When you decided to post here on the forum, was there a result you were hoping for? A change in yourself, in how you view that fear or in how much you spiral in doubt? A change in relationship maybe - finding empathy and support for your struggle, but not necessarily a change in the struggle itself?

A language point that may be helpful to consider in this discussion: Rather than looking at a fear as "rational" or "irrational", reframe to "healthy" or "unhealthy". A healthy fear is one that...well, helps keep you healthy; that helps you avoid harm to yourself or others. An unhealthy fear is one that is disruptive or harmful to you or others. 
A general fear of death is absolutely healthy - as you said, it keeps you alive, which is healthy. An overactive or too-strong fear of death could be unhealthy for a person. I consider mental health to be part of "health", so if the fear is resulting in strong mental struggle, then it's unhealthy; and also, stress in the brain has a number of effects on the physical body, so there's physical harm too. 
(That ties into my questions to you - would you consider your fear of death to be healthy or unhealthy? Obviously if you consider it healthy, you're not looking to change it. I assumed you were looking to change it, but I should have asked that first, my bad.)

I can see the logic in your fear. I don't have the same emotional reaction to those thoughts myself, but I can at least see logically how you get there, and sympathize with it.

[Mags she/they]

On 6/30/2025 at 2:14 AM, Just A Silvereye said:

*all the hugs*

I don't have much to add to what was already said. I hope too that the doctor will be able to sway your parents

 

 

btw if you're still awake as I send this

sleep *tucks in bed* 

On 6/30/2025 at 6:24 AM, echo74 said:

*hughughughughug*

mental illness isn’t from the devil in the same way physical illness isn’t from the devil

like i doubt your parents would look at a cancer ward and be like “oh it’s cuz they’re not praying hard enough”

like that’s just ridiculous

and mental health is just as real and important as physical health

tbh i do also have some doubts about the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints

i love the church, i love going to church, i love being there

but i feel like a lot of people think people in the church are better than other people which isn’t true at all

we’re all sinners lol and i believe that it’s through Jesus Christ that we are made whole

thats what i believe

however its not up to me to decide what you believe

and its certainly not up to your parents

it’s up to you

if any of you guys are familiar with the ruby franke story, her kids were abused and the excuse she used in her journaling is that she “needed to get the devil out of them”

anyways idk if any of this is even remotely helpful im just saying what im thinking 

but just know that you are not alone, that people care about you and want you to feel peace, and that you’re not a bad person for saying no

you got this, i believe in you!

can i also pray for you tho?

On 6/30/2025 at 9:16 PM, Hoid Slayer said:

*squeeze*

So

I personally am an atheist

But I still want to give my advice

First: I’m sorry you had to bottle that up for so long. I’m sorry your parents won’t treat your problems seriously, and I’m sorry you’re feeling so much stress about it.

Some of your problems are related to religion, but they are not justified by it. No one’s parents should dismiss their problems like that, and regardless of what you believe, claiming mental health is a choice is simply wrong.

Life is exhausting, and it’s normal for it to seem like you’re slowing down, becoming less efficient. I feel it too. But it doesn’t have to be a bad thing.

The world isn’t ending. Sure, terrible stuff may be happening, but life will go on. Always remember that. Life goes on.

And finally, it’s okay to doubt your faith. It is not a bad thing by any means. And I know this seems counterintuitive to what I said earlier, but I’m sure a lot will change if you stop seeing it as a problem to overcome. Not every question demands an immediate answer.

It’s okay to doubt, and feel tired, and see impending doom around every corner.

It’s NOT okay to dismiss problems with religion, or to have to feel unsafe with your parents.

Honestly, I struggle with advice sometimes. It feels wrong to tell someone they need to be doing something to get out of their situation. But if also feels wrong to just tell a person what their situation is. Yet it seems sometimes just understanding is the best you can do.

On 7/1/2025 at 7:10 AM, Hawks said:

Omhh!!!

*hugs galore*

Ok so they should not be forcing you to ger your patriarchal blessing. That is literally againsr the rules. You are supposed to get it when you feel ready. Tell that to your bishop when you talk to him. It might also be worth brining up thr mental health issues to. 

Mag plssss message me if you need anything. Preferably through discord since my wifi is gonna be crappy. Please dont feel alone. Your awesome and we will listen to anything you say. 

Where did she say that? Well if you are queer mag then WELCOME  and yes I mostly agree with what you said so

Though you can find people occasionally who are queer to and then you have to be friends. Its the law. 

On 7/1/2025 at 8:55 AM, WhyEverNot_8 said:

,_, 

Summer sucks so much 

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my relationship is on the verge of ending because I’m an idiot and can’t figure out how to fix my problems (of which there are a multitude.)

I make empty apologies and can’t keep promises. I try to fix that and I try to keep my promises but it’s just… not working. I’m so forgetful that I don’t even remember the promises I’ve made to myself. Summer is supposed to be fun but in recent years it’s just started to suck. 

On a more happy note, I discovered a new music group (The Vanished People!) and their songs actually really help. I’ve never really experienced this before, but one of their songs kinda matches what I’m going through right now and it’s… relieving?? (It’s called Castaway, it’s their No. 1 on Spotify and in their School Trip album. It has the f-word twice but nothing else) 

I haven’t seriously considered doing anything irreparable, don’t worry. But for some reason my mind has been jumping to scenarios where I’m… y’know.

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I’ll be walking down the stairs and my brain airdrops me an image of me on the floor, skull cracked. I’ll be walking down the sidewalk and it goes: “CAR! SQUISH!!” and i see my corpse and it just sucks.

TW OVER

Another thing is that I always apologize for venting because I always feel that my mental problems are less than others. And I know that this is specifically for that, and that y’all always say that it’s alright and that i’m important too, but that’s not going to change anytime soon, so…

I’m sorry for venting. 

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I don’t think it’s from any kind of trauma, so y’all don’t have to worry about that.

 

And Mag, I hope everything gets better. I’m sorry you have to go through that. I hope your parents can eventually accept that mental health doesn’t ‘come from the devil’.

On 7/2/2025 at 8:35 PM, MirkerLurker said:

Droppin' in belatedly, as usual, here is MirkerLurker with various thoughts.

 

First off: I'm really glad you got a dr appointment scheduled. 

Secondly, I am religious (tho not LDS), and have also had doubts about my faith, and have advice. Find someone in your religion, someone more mature and experienced in their faith than you are, who you can talk to about doubts - who you can ask questions, be listened to, and have your questions treated seriously and answered seriously. (Whether the answer is clear or not; sometimes it's about working through confusing information, not about seeing obvious clear answers.) Asking questions about your faith is HEALTHY. Finding those answers - actually learning and working through them, not being told "just trust it" - strengthens your faith and grows your confidence and self-image. 
And I know saying "Find someone you can safely ask potentially volatile questions to" is not easily done. But it's SO WORTH IT. It sounds like your parents are not those people for you. I don't know the other adults in your church, so I don't know who to recommend - your bishop maybe?? - but I will point out that a great way to start the conversation, and get your parents to be ok with you having conversations like this, is telling them you want to prepare for your patriarchal blessing by talking about it with some of the adults in the church. And then do that - pick a couple of people you think might be good people to talk to, and start with the subject of the blessing and your uncertainties there, and see if you can go from there into more general doubts and confusion.
It is normal to find that the worldview you were raised with is conflicting with what you start to believe as you grow into an adult. Part of adulthood is learning to work through and reconcile those clashes. And I strongly suggest getting advice on how to do that, from people you consider wise.

Additional note: Seeing a counselor may also be a helpful thing for you, sorting through mental health issues. However, counselors are not a good place to ask about religious doubts; they are required to be neutral on the issue, regardless of what they personally believe. Which is good - it's important that they provide a space safe for anyone to receive counseling. But even if the dr appointment results in you getting counseling - which I hope you at least get the option! - you should still also seek out faith advice from someone else.

Finally, *HUG*
That's rough. 

 

*hug*

You can always vent here. I know you know that, but I'll reassure it anyway. Also, I feel you on "feeling that my mental problems are less than others". Yyyep. On that note: it doesn't matter if it's minor or major: if it needs talking about, it needs talking about. It doesn't help any of us to compare who has it "worse"; instead, we can help each other regardless of how bad any individual has it. When we share it, it all lessens.
A small injury that only needs 3 stitches isn't "as bad" as a big one that needs 20 stitches; but that doesn't mean the small one didn't need treatment. Or that it would be fine if ignored. 

Isn't it awesome when you find music that matches and it actually makes it better?! It's so weird, but it works. Like...I'm not alone. Someone else gets it. It's not just in my head, because it's out there too. And sometimes they phrase it better than I ever could, and that helps too. "Oh. That. That's how to describe it."

Unasked-for suggestion on forgetting, ignore if you want: Do you have a phone or digital device that you can set reminders on? I would not function without my phone yelling at me about things. Seriously - I once missed three dr appointments in two weeks, because I couldn't remember them. (First the regular one, then the rescheduled one, then the rescheduling of the rescheduled one. The office was...rather upset with me.) Phone calendar notifications mostly solved that. And note-taking - write down the things you're supposed to do later in a note app, and add a time reminder to read the list again.

Also: consider talking to a dr - memory issues are a common side effect of depression and some other mental health things. Addressing the root cause may help as well.

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement and advice everyone. I'm sorry I didn't respond immediately and that I've kind of disappeared from the shard, but reading what you all had to say has helped a lot, and I've thought about it a lot. I'm still kind of a mess and my brain feels like scrambled eggs, but good things also keep happening so I'm trying to stay hopeful.

The other day I went to visit my aunt, she's moving so she's getting rid of a lot of stuff so she let me take home a ton of her fantasy paperbacks. It's stupid but it really cheered me up, and getting to some of those anticipated books is something that has kept me going. I have managed to collect the entirety of the wheel of time second hand, except for the very last book. My brother and I plan on doing a buddy read of wot once I finish my current read, which I'm excited about.

My family also did another LOTR marathon which cheered me up a lot. It's funny because I'm reading the books right now and they both have a very powerful emotional message, but they're slightly different. I find it really interesting.

I'm not sure what else to share. I did get my AP portfolio score and . . . it was 4. A great score that I should be satisfied with but I was a little disappointed. I felt like it didn't really reflect the amount of effort and time I put into it, but I will confess some of those paintings were kinda ugly. The score isn't really gonna effect me much though, so I shouldn't complain--I didn't take the class because I wanted the credit specifically, and I'm grateful that I do get credit in general.

Yesterday and today I had job interviews for some part time stuff. I'm really hoping to get hired because I think it will help me. It'll be hard but good, and also I want money loll

We did have a doctor's appointment for me, but the doctor ended up not being available on the chosen day. We're going to try to reschedule tomorrow, but I'm worried the date is gonna be pushed back a few weeks. For now I've just been taking things one day at a time, and that sort of thing. 

I want to be more active over here because I really really miss it, but it can be hard for me to sit down and write stuff. If you want to talk to me more often, I check discord everyday so we could connect there if we haven't already.

[+Slowswift]

@Mag Sorry I'm late to the conversation, but I wanted to offer my support and encouragement as well. (Looks like everyone else beat me to the advice, but I'm still a willing ear.) You'll be in my prayers!

[Denissimo He/him]

17 hours ago, MirkerLurker said:

"This in itself has sent me into a lot of downward spirals of crippling doubt but it never causes any real problems mostly."

Are spirals of crippling doubt not a real problem? (In your opinion. I have my own, but yours is the one that matters when it comes to your own mind.) 
Another question to ask: Would you like this fear to change, to go away? Or are you ok with things staying the way they are? When you decided to post here on the forum, was there a result you were hoping for? A change in yourself, in how you view that fear or in how much you spiral in doubt? A change in relationship maybe - finding empathy and support for your struggle, but not necessarily a change in the struggle itself?

A language point that may be helpful to consider in this discussion: Rather than looking at a fear as "rational" or "irrational", reframe to "healthy" or "unhealthy". A healthy fear is one that...well, helps keep you healthy; that helps you avoid harm to yourself or others. An unhealthy fear is one that is disruptive or harmful to you or others. 
A general fear of death is absolutely healthy - as you said, it keeps you alive, which is healthy. An overactive or too-strong fear of death could be unhealthy for a person. I consider mental health to be part of "health", so if the fear is resulting in strong mental struggle, then it's unhealthy; and also, stress in the brain has a number of effects on the physical body, so there's physical harm too. 
(That ties into my questions to you - would you consider your fear of death to be healthy or unhealthy? Obviously if you consider it healthy, you're not looking to change it. I assumed you were looking to change it, but I should have asked that first, my bad.)

I can see the logic in your fear. I don't have the same emotional reaction to those thoughts myself, but I can at least see logically how you get there, and sympathize with it.

I am not sure what I expected. To be honest, the only thing that I think would help me is an answer; THE answer.
But, well, no one has that; but I was hoping for theories, which seems to be the only thing that satisfis my thanatophobia. Anything that isn't facing facts and that, well, my Nihilism is probab;y right.
I suppose maybe I should have found a science forum instead, but I am banned from a lot of those...

[Through the Living Hope]

7 hours ago, Mag said:

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement and advice everyone. I'm sorry I didn't respond immediately and that I've kind of disappeared from the shard, but reading what you all had to say has helped a lot, and I've thought about it a lot. I'm still kind of a mess and my brain feels like scrambled eggs, but good things also keep happening so I'm trying to stay hopeful.

The other day I went to visit my aunt, she's moving so she's getting rid of a lot of stuff so she let me take home a ton of her fantasy paperbacks. It's stupid but it really cheered me up, and getting to some of those anticipated books is something that has kept me going. I have managed to collect the entirety of the wheel of time second hand, except for the very last book. My brother and I plan on doing a buddy read of wot once I finish my current read, which I'm excited about.

My family also did another LOTR marathon which cheered me up a lot. It's funny because I'm reading the books right now and they both have a very powerful emotional message, but they're slightly different. I find it really interesting.

I'm not sure what else to share. I did get my AP portfolio score and . . . it was 4. A great score that I should be satisfied with but I was a little disappointed. I felt like it didn't really reflect the amount of effort and time I put into it, but I will confess some of those paintings were kinda ugly. The score isn't really gonna effect me much though, so I shouldn't complain--I didn't take the class because I wanted the credit specifically, and I'm grateful that I do get credit in general.

Yesterday and today I had job interviews for some part time stuff. I'm really hoping to get hired because I think it will help me. It'll be hard but good, and also I want money loll

We did have a doctor's appointment for me, but the doctor ended up not being available on the chosen day. We're going to try to reschedule tomorrow, but I'm worried the date is gonna be pushed back a few weeks. For now I've just been taking things one day at a time, and that sort of thing. 

I want to be more active over here because I really really miss it, but it can be hard for me to sit down and write stuff. If you want to talk to me more often, I check discord everyday so we could connect there if we haven't already.

 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

2 hours ago, Denisimo said:

I am not sure what I expected. To be honest, the only thing that I think would help me is an answer; THE answer.
But, well, no one has that; but I was hoping for theories, which seems to be the only thing that satisfis my thanatophobia. Anything that isn't facing facts and that, well, my Nihilism is probab;y right.
I suppose maybe I should have found a science forum instead, but I am banned from a lot of those...

Therios theors thereis theories there we go finnally. Theories for after death ofc there are the obvious ones like the scary nothing and then all the religious ones neither of those work for you so then we gotta think abt other stuff. For other stuff maybe when you pass you still remain in the world not exactly as a ghost but kind of just like your a spectator in like a game? Honestly I don’t really know I just assume I’ll die and fall asleep and that’ll be that( I sleep rly heavy so that helps with how comfortable I am w that)

[Through the Living Questio he/him]

9 hours ago, Mag said:

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement and advice everyone. I'm sorry I didn't respond immediately and that I've kind of disappeared from the shard, but reading what you all had to say has helped a lot, and I've thought about it a lot. I'm still kind of a mess and my brain feels like scrambled eggs, but good things also keep happening so I'm trying to stay hopeful.

The other day I went to visit my aunt, she's moving so she's getting rid of a lot of stuff so she let me take home a ton of her fantasy paperbacks. It's stupid but it really cheered me up, and getting to some of those anticipated books is something that has kept me going. I have managed to collect the entirety of the wheel of time second hand, except for the very last book. My brother and I plan on doing a buddy read of wot once I finish my current read, which I'm excited about.

My family also did another LOTR marathon which cheered me up a lot. It's funny because I'm reading the books right now and they both have a very powerful emotional message, but they're slightly different. I find it really interesting.

I'm not sure what else to share. I did get my AP portfolio score and . . . it was 4. A great score that I should be satisfied with but I was a little disappointed. I felt like it didn't really reflect the amount of effort and time I put into it, but I will confess some of those paintings were kinda ugly. The score isn't really gonna effect me much though, so I shouldn't complain--I didn't take the class because I wanted the credit specifically, and I'm grateful that I do get credit in general.

Yesterday and today I had job interviews for some part time stuff. I'm really hoping to get hired because I think it will help me. It'll be hard but good, and also I want money loll

We did have a doctor's appointment for me, but the doctor ended up not being available on the chosen day. We're going to try to reschedule tomorrow, but I'm worried the date is gonna be pushed back a few weeks. For now I've just been taking things one day at a time, and that sort of thing. 

I want to be more active over here because I really really miss it, but it can be hard for me to sit down and write stuff. If you want to talk to me more often, I check discord everyday so we could connect there if we haven't already.

Hey! 
It’s fine that you disappeared for a bit. I did too.

And for the paperbacks, that’s actually pretty awesome! It’s the little things that help.

Sorry I don’t really know what to say. If you ever need to talk to someone, ping me on discord. I’ll check it throughout my day. (typically like 9:30-10:30 CST) 

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Sorry I suck at giving advice, I think the best I can do is offer to talk if you need it.

 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

10 hours ago, Mag said:

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement and advice everyone. I'm sorry I didn't respond immediately and that I've kind of disappeared from the shard, but reading what you all had to say has helped a lot, and I've thought about it a lot. I'm still kind of a mess and my brain feels like scrambled eggs, but good things also keep happening so I'm trying to stay hopeful.

The other day I went to visit my aunt, she's moving so she's getting rid of a lot of stuff so she let me take home a ton of her fantasy paperbacks. It's stupid but it really cheered me up, and getting to some of those anticipated books is something that has kept me going. I have managed to collect the entirety of the wheel of time second hand, except for the very last book. My brother and I plan on doing a buddy read of wot once I finish my current read, which I'm excited about.

My family also did another LOTR marathon which cheered me up a lot. It's funny because I'm reading the books right now and they both have a very powerful emotional message, but they're slightly different. I find it really interesting.

I'm not sure what else to share. I did get my AP portfolio score and . . . it was 4. A great score that I should be satisfied with but I was a little disappointed. I felt like it didn't really reflect the amount of effort and time I put into it, but I will confess some of those paintings were kinda ugly. The score isn't really gonna effect me much though, so I shouldn't complain--I didn't take the class because I wanted the credit specifically, and I'm grateful that I do get credit in general.

Yesterday and today I had job interviews for some part time stuff. I'm really hoping to get hired because I think it will help me. It'll be hard but good, and also I want money loll

We did have a doctor's appointment for me, but the doctor ended up not being available on the chosen day. We're going to try to reschedule tomorrow, but I'm worried the date is gonna be pushed back a few weeks. For now I've just been taking things one day at a time, and that sort of thing. 

I want to be more active over here because I really really miss it, but it can be hard for me to sit down and write stuff. If you want to talk to me more often, I check discord everyday so we could connect there if we haven't already.

*hugifies*

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

I just realized I don’t think I thanked the people who responded to my poem the other day. I’m not one hundred percent sure who did but if you did thank you I rly like poetry (writing/reading) even if I’m not that good at it. anyways thank you if you ever want poem recommendations or poet recommendations message me either by mentioning me su or pm I’ll see all. Also uh look up Czesław Miłosz especially his poem Dedication. Actually yk what I’ll just put it in a spoiler box.

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You whom I could not save

Listen to me.   

Try to understand this simple speech as I would be ashamed of another.   

I swear, there is in me no wizardry of words.   

I speak to you with silence like a cloud or a tree.

 

What strengthened me, for you was lethal.   

You mixed up farewell to an epoch with the beginning of a new one,   

Inspiration of hatred with lyrical beauty;   

Blind force with accomplished shape.

 

Here is a valley of shallow Polish rivers. And an immense bridge   

Going into white fog. Here is a broken city;   

And the wind throws the screams of gulls on your grave   

When I am talking with you.

 

What is poetry which does not save   

Nations or people?   

A connivance with official lies,   

A song of drunkards whose throats will be cut in a moment,   

Readings for sophomore girls.

That I wanted good poetry without knowing it,   

That I discovered, late, its salutary aim,   

In this and only this I find salvation.

 

They used to pour millet on graves or poppy seeds   

To feed the dead who would come disguised as birds.   

I put this book here for you, who once lived   

So that you should visit us no more.   

 

[___ He/Him]

I haven't been in here for a while but

*enormous hugs for all*

x∞

[MirkerLurker she/her]

17 hours ago, Denisimo said:

I am not sure what I expected. To be honest, the only thing that I think would help me is an answer; THE answer.
But, well, no one has that; but I was hoping for theories, which seems to be the only thing that satisfis my thanatophobia. Anything that isn't facing facts and that, well, my Nihilism is probab;y right.
I suppose maybe I should have found a science forum instead, but I am banned from a lot of those...

Huh. That's fair. 

Yeah, at the end of the day, the only way to fully know what happens when we die is to experience it and find out. Which, obviously, doesn't help. Hard to lay out proof of theories for something we can't observe or experience. But we can talk theories of death and general reasons behind them.

We made a second forum for side conversations that stem from the mental health discussion forum here; might be appropriate to move "theories of what happens after death" over there? There's another conversation started there, about is there any such thing as absolute truth, but that's stalled and can def be interrupted. The idea of the thread was "hey, turns out taking about mental health often leads to discussing philosophy and other stuff, let's make a thread for those discussions." 

But that thread gets less traffic, so if you wanna leave the discussion here where it gets seen more, I'd say that's fine? *shrug* I don't really know forum etiquette all that well. 

My beliefs about death are heavily influenced by my religious beliefs, so me talking theories would be as much a discussion of religion as of death, given that I imagine I'd have to defend the belief in religion before using it as an explanation for post-death theories. ...which I actually gave a bit of that in the other thread, though that was a bit of a tangent from the original topic. Here, I'm gonna link that thread here, and you can engage if you want. I'm happy to tell you what I think happens after death and why if you want to talk about religion. I'm not offended if you don't though - I'm offering, not insisting. Bugs the crem out of me when people try to force or be pushy with beliefs.

...that was a lot of words to not actually say much. Anyway, here's a link to that other thread. There's not much on it. https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/200210-topics-taken-out-of-the-mental-health-club-for-spaceother-reasons/

Edited July 10, 2025 by MirkerLurker

[BlueWildRye he/him]

AAAAH GUYS I COME BACK TO THIS THREAD AND EVERYONE'S SAD AGAIN

HUGS!!!! HUGS FOR EVERYONE!!!! AND PLEASE HUG SOMEONE IN REAL LIFE TOO BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

[Through the Living Questio he/him]

13 hours ago, MirkerLurker said:

Yeah, at the end of the day, the only way to fully know what happens when we die is to experience it and find out. Which, obviously, doesn't help. Hard to lay out proof of theories for something we can't observe or experience. But we can talk theories of death and general reasons behind them.

personally I’m hoping for the “Level Complete: Free Play Unlocked.” screen to show up and to get my own pocket dimension

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

11 minutes ago, WhyEverNot_8 said:

personally I’m hoping for the “Level Complete: Free Play Unlocked.” screen to show up and to get my own pocket dimension

lol yes

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

52 minutes ago, WhyEverNot_8 said:

personally I’m hoping for the “Level Complete: Free Play Unlocked.” screen to show up and to get my own pocket dimension

Yessss that’d be awsome

[Through the Living Questio he/him]

Spoiler

Something I hate about myself is my tendency to trust people too much. I find myself getting closer and closer to someone and I end up… dropping the walls too much. So much that I end up seeming weak and useless, and eventually, it comes back to hit me. Like letting a bunch of water into a closed pool, eventually it’s going to flow back and encompass the source. I trust people too much, and it makes me worse. Not because I trust them, but because of me. I realize that I can trust that person to support me, so I loosen my grip on the stronger parts of myself, and when it gets too much for them to support, I just… fall. And I end up near the bottom of yet another pit, and they’re above me, looking down. Sometimes I can manage being consistent, being decisive, and actually functioning properly in text conversations. Other times I’m held back. Not by them but by me. It’s not their fault, it’s mine. Maybe I just need time away from people, maybe I need time with people. I don’t know. I don’t even know if I’m mad right now. I feel like I could be, but it’s gone before I can register it. I think I need to do something with my hands now. Maybe I’ll go screw around with legos or something…

 

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4 minutes ago, WhyEverNot_8 said:

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Something I hate about myself is my tendency to trust people too much. I find myself getting closer and closer to someone and I end up… dropping the walls too much. So much that I end up seeming weak and useless, and eventually, it comes back to hit me. Like letting a bunch of water into a closed pool, eventually it’s going to flow back and encompass the source. I trust people too much, and it makes me worse. Not because I trust them, but because of me. I realize that I can trust that person to support me, so I loosen my grip on the stronger parts of myself, and when it gets too much for them to support, I just… fall. And I end up near the bottom of yet another pit, and they’re above me, looking down. Sometimes I can manage being consistent, being decisive, and actually functioning properly in text conversations. Other times I’m held back. Not by them but by me. It’s not their fault, it’s mine. Maybe I just need time away from people, maybe I need time with people. I don’t know. I don’t even know if I’m mad right now. I feel like I could be, but it’s gone before I can register it. I think I need to do something with my hands now. Maybe I’ll go screw around with legos or something…

 

*massive hugs*

I wish I had something to help, but that's the fear that fuels the mask.

[Through the Living Questio he/him]

2 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*massive hugs*

I wish I had something to help, but that's the fear that fuels the mask.

*thanks* 

It’s alright. I think this time, I’ll just let it fuel the change, y’know?

[Through the Living Questio he/him]

Oh wow… that’s a lot 

thank you  

it also means a lot

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

3 minutes ago, WhyEverNot_8 said:

Oh wow… that’s a lot 

thank you  

it also means a lot

 

Edited July 11, 2025 by CoderDrag0n8

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

I know hugs aren't a competition...but why'd you have to show me up like that?

Thats what I do man

I call it the CoderDrag0n8 Pandora's Box effect.

You open the box, you get greeted with very much joy and lag.

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

3 hours ago, WhyEverNot_8 said:

I don’t even know if I’m mad right now. I feel like I could be, but it’s gone before I can register it.

I'd recommend taking sometime to journal if ya can, it's super useful for figuring emotions out. Distractions can be helpful sometimes, but be sure to give yourself time to just *think* and be honest with yourself, with no distractions. 
 

3 hours ago, WhyEverNot_8 said:

Something I hate about myself is my tendency to trust people too much. I find myself getting closer and closer to someone and I end up… dropping the walls too much. So much that I end up seeming weak and useless, and eventually, it comes back to hit me.

While I can't know your exact friendships, I'll say that real friends won't view you as weak for opening up and being vulnerable, whether or not you think it makes you seem weak. Often opening up to others can be one of the hardest things there is, and is a sign of strength, not weakness. Anyone can hide their inner doubts and insecurities and mental battles, and put on a mask. But opening up and being honest and trusting others? That's hard.

 

@CoderDrag0n8 And as much as I love the large amounts of hugs, let's maybe tone it down a bit, as that level of emoji spam can cause lag for folks

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

27 minutes ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

I'd recommend taking sometime to journal if ya can, it's super useful for figuring emotions out. Distractions can be helpful sometimes, but be sure to give yourself time to just *think* and be honest with yourself, with no distractions. 
 

While I can't know your exact friendships, I'll say that real friends won't view you as weak for opening up and being vulnerable, whether or not you think it makes you seem weak. Often opening up to others can be one of the hardest things there is, and is a sign of strength, not weakness. Anyone can hide their inner doubts and insecurities and mental battles, and put on a mask. But opening up and being honest and trusting others? That's hard.

 

@CoderDrag0n8 And as much as I love the large amounts of hugs, let's maybe tone it down a bit, as that level of emoji spam can cause lag for folks

ok ok ok

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It did take me a while to fight through the lag to post it.