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[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

10 hours ago, Heřãłðøfľõvê said:

thank you everyone who responded to me it helps a bunch and I rly appreciate also its going a little better today I just had what I would consider my first actually productive meeting w my therapist bc I actually told her stuff and the person I made cry and all my friends don’t hate me so that’s a plus.

seriously everyone on here whether you saw what i put or not I appreciate you so much and for all the help you’ve given me and others big hugs for all *HUGE HUG*

Yay!

*hugs*

[MirkerLurker she/her]

On 5/28/2025 at 11:04 PM, Hoid Slayer said:

 

I… disagree with a lot of the religious points raised here, but I don’t feel like this is the best place to discuss that.

Just, quickly, for Hawks:

Don’t feel the need to believe something you don’t. 

If it's a discussion you want to continue, pms are always open, or we could start another religion thread, or a group message thread. And if it's not, that's fine - I'm happy to agree to disagree and leave it there.

On 5/28/2025 at 11:08 PM, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

I fully respect religion as a set of ideals, but to me—I want to emphasize that, TO ME, and I'll expand on that in a little bit—it seems like you said it may be, a half-lie with good intentions. That said, my own system of belief is a little convoluted, but could probably be classified as some branch of humanism, though I typically just identify as an atheist, mostly for convenience's sake. This whole viewpoint comes mostly from things like quantum physics and relativity, so it's a little odd, but whatevs.

To me, religion is true for each person. If a person believes God, or some higher being, exists, then it does; if someone believes there isn't, then there isn't. Essentially, we each live within our own plane of existence that overlaps with others but differs in certain key truths and ways of viewing the world. This also has to do with things like how the color "red" might actually look different to different people, we just all agree to call it "red".

Not gonna get too much into this 'cause it's a pretty iffy topic, but just saying that what's true for one personneed not be true for another.

Yeah no I agree a lot with this; I would add that truth itself is reallymore subjective than we'd like it to be, so keep that in mind.

I can see the logic you're following. (Though I'm curious - do you believe all truth is subjective? Or that there are some objective truths, just not as many as most people think they're are? I'd be curious to hear a defense of 'there is no such thing as objective truth' from you if that's your perspective.)

At the end of the day, you and I disagree about whether religion is an objective or subjective truth, and I'm perfectly happy to agree to disagree. I like you either way, so.

 

On 5/28/2025 at 11:36 PM, Dragonheir said:

I'm bored and have things to say, so I'll ignore the fact I should be asleep and join the religion discussion. 

Notes: also Christian, also biased, but playing Devil's Advocate (this was a position whose job it was to convince the Pope a potential saint's miracles were the work of the Devil or made up, and hence they should not be made a saint - in this case, I'm pretty much directly doing that) for the moment. I've found that arguing against my opinions can help me determine if I'm wrong, in whole or in part, and if not, allows me to have more, better things to say on my behalf if contradicted. 

This happens to be a false trichonomy, and as trusting or modeling behavior off of faulty logic is almost as bad as emulating someone insane, I have more options for you (well, now only one, but before I decided to merge the "the Bible is inaccurate in some way" ones, I had three. I'm sure more people can think of more things), at least one of which (which I personally think is false, but it's a much better option than the others) allows secularly following Jesus's teachings to work. If there are two people named Jesus, one of whom was either a liar or con man and one of whom was a wise teacher, the Bible (which was written a good hundred years after the actual events, and has several duplicate versions of at least the Loaves and Fishes miracle that contradict each other) could conflate them and end up with one person. 

And, per Christian theology, since God is omnipotent, He can do such a thing. An omnipotent God can decide to also be not omnipotent and also to not exist, and have no problems existing while not existing, being all-powerful and also constrained, and carrying around the stones He made that He cannot lift. To miracles, though, that's a lot of quantum entanglement. 

Thinking about things like what happens if you convert to a different religion is making my head hurt, so I'll spare myself and everyone else and not think it through enough to type out. 

Ooh, devil's advocate! Yay!

On the false trichotomy: ooh, you're right, I started with the assumption that there is only one Jesus in question. Good point.

I made that assumption without thinking about it, however, because we actually have a ton of historical evidence for the existence and life/works of the man (singluar) called Jesus Christ. We have more historically verifiable evidence of his life than we do for Alexander the Great, Plato, or Julius Caesar. Which connects to your point about the Bible having differences in its repeating stories. (I want to note that the differences are not outright contradictions; one person retelling an event remembering different details or things happening in a different order than another person recalling the same event is not a contradiction of the truth of the event.) But! The differences in the different retellings, and the fact that we have many manuscripts with different wording, actually make it less likely that the source material has been confused or mixed up or had false information. Historians look for many copies with many differences to trace out the story of how an original document actually appeared, and many narrators with many different retellings to trace out how an event actually happened. The more retellings and the more differences, the more certain we can be that we have the real story. ...sorry for a bit of a nerd rant. I find that aspect of historical study fascinating. 

As for omnipotence: That doesn't actually mean what most people think it means. God cannot contradict his own nature. He cannot do anything evil, for example. He cannot sin, and He cannot not exist, because existence is part of his nature. 

...yeah ok, too much theology for this thread. 

 

The important thing I want to say: both Hoid and Stormcursed said something along the lines of "don't feel to need to believe something you don't actually believe."

Yes. I wholeheartedly agree with this. You should always be willing to question your beliefs. Question your assumptions, your beliefs; it will help you be clear about what you do and don't find to be true, and feeling confident in what is and is not true is incredibly helpful to your sense of self, of stability. 

And any religion (or any other belief of informative thing or whatever) that demands you not question it, or implies you're bad for questioning it, is suspect.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 hour ago, MirkerLurker said:

If it's a discussion you want to continue, pms are always open, or we could start another religion thread, or a group message thread. And if it's not, that's fine - I'm happy to agree to disagree and leave it there.

I can see the logic you're following. (Though I'm curious - do you believe all truth is subjective? Or that there are some objective truths, just not as many as most people think they're are? I'd be curious to hear a defense of 'there is no such thing as objective truth' from you if that's your perspective.)

At the end of the day, you and I disagree about whether religion is an objective or subjective truth, and I'm perfectly happy to agree to disagree. I like you either way, so.

 

Ooh, devil's advocate! Yay!

On the false trichotomy: ooh, you're right, I started with the assumption that there is only one Jesus in question. Good point.

I made that assumption without thinking about it, however, because we actually have a ton of historical evidence for the existence and life/works of the man (singluar) called Jesus Christ. We have more historically verifiable evidence of his life than we do for Alexander the Great, Plato, or Julius Caesar. Which connects to your point about the Bible having differences in its repeating stories. (I want to note that the differences are not outright contradictions; one person retelling an event remembering different details or things happening in a different order than another person recalling the same event is not a contradiction of the truth of the event.) But! The differences in the different retellings, and the fact that we have many manuscripts with different wording, actually make it less likely that the source material has been confused or mixed up or had false information. Historians look for many copies with many differences to trace out the story of how an original document actually appeared, and many narrators with many different retellings to trace out how an event actually happened. The more retellings and the more differences, the more certain we can be that we have the real story. ...sorry for a bit of a nerd rant. I find that aspect of historical study fascinating. 

As for omnipotence: That doesn't actually mean what most people think it means. God cannot contradict his own nature. He cannot do anything evil, for example. He cannot sin, and He cannot not exist, because existence is part of his nature. 

...yeah ok, too much theology for this thread. 

 

The important thing I want to say: both Hoid and Stormcursed said something along the lines of "don't feel to need to believe something you don't actually believe."

Yes. I wholeheartedly agree with this. You should always be willing to question your beliefs. Question your assumptions, your beliefs; it will help you be clear about what you do and don't find to be true, and feeling confident in what is and is not true is incredibly helpful to your sense of self, of stability. 

And any religion (or any other belief of informative thing or whatever) that demands you not question it, or implies you're bad for questioning it, is suspect.

We should start a thread for this, 'cause I really would love to continue debating this. It's one of the things that has so many different ways of looking at it, and as long as everyone's willing to discuss it openly, it can be really fun to debate

[Keke They/he]

Eh.

So we jave today off yay

I wake up. After last night where we worked since I got home from school till I almost overloaded and had to sit in my comfort hammock and write oc lore then I watched a show with my mom then slept. 

Now I wake up today. We do chorsed.. im mentally snd emotionally exhausted. So im like ok today I can relax and hang out with my friend at her birthday party tonight. Then turns out I have to help my dad make a bed and continue tearing up the floor in the basement. So obv trying to express my emotions vut I suck at thar I go "ugh. I want a day when I can not have anything to do and relax." Rhen I get this response "your to old for that" WHAT im fourteen and barely considered a highschooler. Hpw am I to old to have a day where I can take care of myself and work on my depression . Then my mom goes "besides, wed be done with the basement if you and the two boys worked harder. If you had wrd be done and at this point and the rate you work we will be working till Monday." Then complains about it thought the car ride. She also said "gour the one who chose to do parties this weekend" ma'am one is a birthday party where we are going to either explore the nature or sit and watch TV and play games. That's not stressful. The other is a hang out where me and three friends are going to swim at a pool. RHOSE ARENT ATRESSFUL. So I have to help my dad build a bed in a room barely big enough for one person plus a dismantled bed and a working on moving bed then work in a basement i can't breath in du3 to smells and sensory overloads. 

*cries is stressed*

[MirkerLurker she/her]

12 minutes ago, Hawks said:

Eh.

So we jave today off yay

I wake up. After last night where we worked since I got home from school till I almost overloaded and had to sit in my comfort hammock and write oc lore then I watched a show with my mom then slept. 

Now I wake up today. We do chorsed.. im mentally snd emotionally exhausted. So im like ok today I can relax and hang out with my friend at her birthday party tonight. Then turns out I have to help my dad make a bed and continue tearing up the floor in the basement. So obv trying to express my emotions vut I suck at thar I go "ugh. I want a day when I can not have anything to do and relax." Rhen I get this response "your to old for that" WHAT im fourteen and barely considered a highschooler. Hpw am I to old to have a day where I can take care of myself and work on my depression . Then my mom goes "besides, wed be done with the basement if you and the two boys worked harder. If you had wrd be done and at this point and the rate you work we will be working till Monday." Then complains about it thought the car ride. She also said "gour the one who chose to do parties this weekend" ma'am one is a birthday party where we are going to either explore the nature or sit and watch TV and play games. That's not stressful. The other is a hang out where me and three friends are going to swim at a pool. RHOSE ARENT ATRESSFUL. So I have to help my dad build a bed in a room barely big enough for one person plus a dismantled bed and a working on moving bed then work in a basement i can't breath in du3 to smells and sensory overloads. 

*cries is stressed*

*hugs*

I'm sorry. I wish I could do more to help

 That sucks, I'm sorry.

41 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

We should start a thread for this, 'cause I really would love to continue debating this. It's one of the things that has so many different ways of looking at it, and as long as everyone's willing to discuss it openly, it can be really fun to debate

Yes, let's do it! 

[Keke They/he]

Why the storm is it so hard to explain emotions. So my dad came over and went to take down my old bed and my room is messy. Now its not as messy as it has been in the past but it could be better and I've tried to do it but as previously stated im dead and trying my best to survive rn. That's not an excuse ik but. Anyways my dad gets there and texts my mom like hey you should have had him take down his bed and she goes I did then my mom tells me. "You should have cleaned your room when I told you to." Thenni try saying that when I get home from school im dead snd- then she goes "you want a day to relax but you never do anytjing when you get home from school. And your dad says you can sleep on the floor till you get your room cleaned because hes not going to do musical chairs with the mess." And she says that i disappointed my dad and im trying to keep my rust together

She just glady suggested that I can temporarily move said "mess" (its not that messy) to her room so my dad can set up the bed and I xont have to force myself to do anything right now.

Im thinking of writing a note to my parents with all my emotions in it since i cant verbalize anything. 

10 minutes ago, MirkerLurker said:

*hugs*

I'm sorry. I wish I could do more to help

 That sucks, I'm sorry.

Yes, let's do it! 

*hugs* its ok I just need support.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

1 hour ago, Hawks said:

Eh.

So we jave today off yay

I wake up. After last night where we worked since I got home from school till I almost overloaded and had to sit in my comfort hammock and write oc lore then I watched a show with my mom then slept. 

Now I wake up today. We do chorsed.. im mentally snd emotionally exhausted. So im like ok today I can relax and hang out with my friend at her birthday party tonight. Then turns out I have to help my dad make a bed and continue tearing up the floor in the basement. So obv trying to express my emotions vut I suck at thar I go "ugh. I want a day when I can not have anything to do and relax." Rhen I get this response "your to old for that" WHAT im fourteen and barely considered a highschooler. Hpw am I to old to have a day where I can take care of myself and work on my depression . Then my mom goes "besides, wed be done with the basement if you and the two boys worked harder. If you had wrd be done and at this point and the rate you work we will be working till Monday." Then complains about it thought the car ride. She also said "gour the one who chose to do parties this weekend" ma'am one is a birthday party where we are going to either explore the nature or sit and watch TV and play games. That's not stressful. The other is a hang out where me and three friends are going to swim at a pool. RHOSE ARENT ATRESSFUL. So I have to help my dad build a bed in a room barely big enough for one person plus a dismantled bed and a working on moving bed then work in a basement i can't breath in du3 to smells and sensory overloads. 

*cries is stressed*

37 minutes ago, Hawks said:

Why the storm is it so hard to explain emotions. So my dad came over and went to take down my old bed and my room is messy. Now its not as messy as it has been in the past but it could be better and I've tried to do it but as previously stated im dead and trying my best to survive rn. That's not an excuse ik but. Anyways my dad gets there and texts my mom like hey you should have had him take down his bed and she goes I did then my mom tells me. "You should have cleaned your room when I told you to." Thenni try saying that when I get home from school im dead snd- then she goes "you want a day to relax but you never do anytjing when you get home from school. And your dad says you can sleep on the floor till you get your room cleaned because hes not going to do musical chairs with the mess." And she says that i disappointed my dad and im trying to keep my rust together

She just glady suggested that I can temporarily move said "mess" (its not that messy) to her room so my dad can set up the bed and I xont have to force myself to do anything right now.

Im thinking of writing a note to my parents with all my emotions in it since i cant verbalize anything. 

*hugs* its ok I just need support.

*squeeze*

Yeah

I feel you, and that’s super hard

Parents are really hard sometimes, and they fail to realize the impact they have. They think they’re always right. 

They need to hear you. You shouldn’t be suffering

A note might work

But you should also try being honest with them. About your emotions, at least.

[Keke They/he]

Just now, Hoid Slayer said:

*squeeze*

Yeah

I feel you, and that’s super hard

Parents are really hard sometimes, and they fail to realize the impact they have. They think they’re always right. 

They need to hear you. You shouldn’t be suffering

A note might work

But you should also try being honest with them. About your emotions, at least.

*hugs*

Ima pm you rq

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 hour ago, Hawks said:

Eh.

So we jave today off yay

I wake up. After last night where we worked since I got home from school till I almost overloaded and had to sit in my comfort hammock and write oc lore then I watched a show with my mom then slept. 

Now I wake up today. We do chorsed.. im mentally snd emotionally exhausted. So im like ok today I can relax and hang out with my friend at her birthday party tonight. Then turns out I have to help my dad make a bed and continue tearing up the floor in the basement. So obv trying to express my emotions vut I suck at thar I go "ugh. I want a day when I can not have anything to do and relax." Rhen I get this response "your to old for that" WHAT im fourteen and barely considered a highschooler. Hpw am I to old to have a day where I can take care of myself and work on my depression . Then my mom goes "besides, wed be done with the basement if you and the two boys worked harder. If you had wrd be done and at this point and the rate you work we will be working till Monday." Then complains about it thought the car ride. She also said "gour the one who chose to do parties this weekend" ma'am one is a birthday party where we are going to either explore the nature or sit and watch TV and play games. That's not stressful. The other is a hang out where me and three friends are going to swim at a pool. RHOSE ARENT ATRESSFUL. So I have to help my dad build a bed in a room barely big enough for one person plus a dismantled bed and a working on moving bed then work in a basement i can't breath in du3 to smells and sensory overloads. 

*cries is stressed*

1 hour ago, Hawks said:

Why the storm is it so hard to explain emotions. So my dad came over and went to take down my old bed and my room is messy. Now its not as messy as it has been in the past but it could be better and I've tried to do it but as previously stated im dead and trying my best to survive rn. That's not an excuse ik but. Anyways my dad gets there and texts my mom like hey you should have had him take down his bed and she goes I did then my mom tells me. "You should have cleaned your room when I told you to." Thenni try saying that when I get home from school im dead snd- then she goes "you want a day to relax but you never do anytjing when you get home from school. And your dad says you can sleep on the floor till you get your room cleaned because hes not going to do musical chairs with the mess." And she says that i disappointed my dad and im trying to keep my rust together

She just glady suggested that I can temporarily move said "mess" (its not that messy) to her room so my dad can set up the bed and I xont have to force myself to do anything right now.

Im thinking of writing a note to my parents with all my emotions in it since i cant verbalize anything. 

*hugs* its ok I just need support.

*hugs*

[Keke They/he]

6 hours ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*hugs*

*hugs*

 

Uh well I sent a note. And uhm..... my dad has yet to mention anything about it. My mom said that maybe we should increase my antidepressants and get a family session in councilor. Im kinda scared and I kinda need hugs. Rn. 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Just now, Hawks said:

*hugs*

 

Uh well I sent a note. And uhm..... my dad has yet to mention anything about it. My mom said that maybe we should increase my antidepressants and get a family session in councilor. Im kinda scared and I kinda need hugs. Rn. 

Oof

Oh

Well

*infinite hugs*

*more hugs*

You’re super brave for doing this. Even if stuff doesn’t work out, you should know you did something incredible

Being scared is normal

It means things are changing 

 

[Keke They/he]

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Oof

Oh

Well

*infinite hugs*

*more hugs*

You’re super brave for doing this. Even if stuff doesn’t work out, you should know you did something incredible

Being scared is normal

It means things are changing 

 

*hugs* thanks 

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

9 minutes ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

 

Uh well I sent a note. And uhm..... my dad has yet to mention anything about it. My mom said that maybe we should increase my antidepressants and get a family session in councilor. Im kinda scared and I kinda need hugs. Rn. 

*more hugs*

Please please try to make your mom take you to a doctor before she just increases your antidepressants

Edited May 31, 2025 by Kaladin Stormcursed

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*more hugs*

Please please try to make your mom take you to a doctor before she just increases your antidepressants

Yes

This too

Very important

More antidepressants isn’t always the answer

[Keke They/he]

39 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*more hugs*

Please please try to make your mom take you to a doctor before she just increases your antidepressants

*hugs*

We will.besides im on the lowest dose and even the doctor was like so you wanna go higher and my dumbass said no.

34 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Yes

This too

Very important

More antidepressants isn’t always the answer

Kk

 

 

Ok sorry for the spam posting my ibe had a roller coaster of emotions. 

After crying at the party bc im just sick of my family and them all being awesome and hugs and hand holding and everything and scream singing karaoke. I get picked up and when my dad saying good night and he goes. I have no problem calling you Hawks bc its a nickname. Then when he leaves he says goodnight Hawks and closes the door. 

Ahahhahaahahahah *cries bc life*

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

We will.besides im on the lowest dose and even the doctor was like so you wanna go higher and my dumbass said no.

Kk

 

 

Ok sorry for the spam posting my ibe had a roller coaster of emotions. 

After crying at the party bc im just sick of my family and them all being awesome and hugs and hand holding and everything and scream singing karaoke. I get picked up and when my dad saying good night and he goes. I have no problem calling you Hawks bc its a nickname. Then when he leaves he says goodnight Hawks and closes the door. 

Ahahhahaahahahah *cries bc life*

*squeeze*

[TwinStorm He/Him]

9 hours ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

We will.besides im on the lowest dose and even the doctor was like so you wanna go higher and my dumbass said no.

Kk

 

 

Ok sorry for the spam posting my ibe had a roller coaster of emotions. 

After crying at the party bc im just sick of my family and them all being awesome and hugs and hand holding and everything and scream singing karaoke. I get picked up and when my dad saying good night and he goes. I have no problem calling you Hawks bc its a nickname. Then when he leaves he says goodnight Hawks and closes the door. 

Ahahhahaahahahah *cries bc life*

*hugs*

good for you

family can be a pain, but when they come together it just so so beautiful

[Keke They/he]

12 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

*squeeze*

*hugs*

2 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

*hugs*

good for you

family can be a pain, but when they come together it just so so beautiful

*hugs*

 

Eh well that went poorly....... I had a panic attack and spent the night in a psychiatric hold at the hospital and was just discharged. To say the least my parents hate being trans and the new revelation of alterhuman. And I was forcibly talked to about how im wrong and living in a delusion and disassociating and when I talked to the psychiatrist she said that she doesnt see any of that. I domt want to live at my house anymore. Damn I just want to live with my friends. Speaking of, they blame my friends for 'making' me this way and that im just trying to fit in. 

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

12 minutes ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

*hugs*

 

Eh well that went poorly....... I had a panic attack and spent the night in a psychiatric hold at the hospital and was just discharged. To say the least my parents hate being trans and the new revelation of alterhuman. And I was forcibly talked to about how im wrong and living in a delusion and disassociating and when I talked to the psychiatrist she said that she doesnt see any of that. I domt want to live at my house anymore. Damn I just want to live with my friends. Speaking of, they blame my friends for 'making' me this way and that im just trying to fit in. 

*HUGS*

I'm so sorry

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

dang that's a lot of new pages

*hugs for everyone who needs them*

2 hours ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

*hugs*

 

Eh well that went poorly....... I had a panic attack and spent the night in a psychiatric hold at the hospital and was just discharged. To say the least my parents hate being trans and the new revelation of alterhuman. And I was forcibly talked to about how im wrong and living in a delusion and disassociating and when I talked to the psychiatrist she said that she doesnt see any of that. I domt want to live at my house anymore. Damn I just want to live with my friends. Speaking of, they blame my friends for 'making' me this way and that im just trying to fit in. 

oh, hawks

*hugs so, so tightly*

[Keke They/he]

1 hour ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*HUGS*

I'm so sorry

*hugs*

Thanks

1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

dang that's a lot of new pages

*hugs for everyone who needs them*

oh, hawks

*hugs so, so tightly*

*hugssss* 

 

Oh and my mom is convinced that yall are actually planning on kidnapping me.... so I cant meet anyone until dragonsteel. Valid concern tho so just FYI. 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

3 minutes ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

Thanks

*hugssss* 

 

Oh and my mom is convinced that yall are actually planning on kidnapping me.... so I cant meet anyone until dragonsteel. Valid concern tho so just FYI. 

bruh

*hugs*

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

2 hours ago, Hawks said:

*hugs*

*hugs*

 

Eh well that went poorly....... I had a panic attack and spent the night in a psychiatric hold at the hospital and was just discharged. To say the least my parents hate being trans and the new revelation of alterhuman. And I was forcibly talked to about how im wrong and living in a delusion and disassociating and when I talked to the psychiatrist she said that she doesnt see any of that. I domt want to live at my house anymore. Damn I just want to live with my friends. Speaking of, they blame my friends for 'making' me this way and that im just trying to fit in. 

*HUGS* 

im sorry hawks that’s the worst

 

 

ok so um *breaks down crying* my friends aren’t talking to me again bc I lie too much and then today I said something that wasn’t a lie but was instead just a mistake I thought one thing when it wasn’t true I said to a friend we will call Lee that another friend sophia  had sent me a screenshot of some kids, who were also Sophia’s friends but not me and lees bc they are mean, at our school calling Lee a really mean word that I cannot put on the shard. Then Sophia texts me and is like why would you lie abt me? Are you trying to make me look bad and at first I was confused bc like to my knowledge I hadn’t lied and I would never want to make her look bad but it turns out that the message I thought she had sent me was from someone else about someone else but the people who had said the mean thing where the same I had just messed up the other details but now they aren’t talking to me bc this isn’t my first time lying abt Sophia and I have lied before but never maliscously but  she said that doesn’t change that I still said something untrue about her.

if you made sense of that advice might help? Idrk what helps anymore I’ve been talking to my therapist abt lying and stuff but it’s just so ugh… idek what to do. Hugs? Honestly I just want to like die and be reincarnated if that happens so I can do better. 
tw suicidal thiughts

Spoiler

Honestly I kinda want to die even if I’m not reincarnated

 

[MirkerLurker she/her]

 

5 hours ago, Hawks said:

Eh well that went poorly....... I had a panic attack and spent the night in a psychiatric hold at the hospital and was just discharged. To say the least my parents hate being trans and the new revelation of alterhuman. And I was forcibly talked to about how im wrong and living in a delusion and disassociating and when I talked to the psychiatrist she said that she doesnt see any of that. I domt want to live at my house anymore. Damn I just want to live with my friends. Speaking of, they blame my friends for 'making' me this way and that im just trying to fit in. 

...geez. 

*hugs*

Can you ask your parents and psychiatrist about having a joint session? A session (or more) where your parents (maybe one at a time tho...) are there with you, and the psychiatrist helps guide the talk and provide professional commentary? Ask the psychiatrist first though, to see whether they think it would be helpful.

3 hours ago, Hawks said:

Oh and my mom is convinced that yall are actually planning on kidnapping me.... so I cant meet anyone until dragonsteel. Valid concern tho so just FYI. 

...i mean. we prolly would. soo. I'm amused at this problem.

 

2 hours ago, Heřãłðøfľõvê said:

ok so um *breaks down crying* my friends aren’t talking to me again bc I lie too much and then today I said something that wasn’t a lie but was instead just a mistake I thought one thing when it wasn’t true I said to a friend we will call Lee that another friend sophia  had sent me a screenshot of some kids, who were also Sophia’s friends but not me and lees bc they are mean, at our school calling Lee a really mean word that I cannot put on the shard. Then Sophia texts me and is like why would you lie abt me? Are you trying to make me look bad and at first I was confused bc like to my knowledge I hadn’t lied and I would never want to make her look bad but it turns out that the message I thought she had sent me was from someone else about someone else but the people who had said the mean thing where the same I had just messed up the other details but now they aren’t talking to me bc this isn’t my first time lying abt Sophia and I have lied before but never maliscously but  she said that doesn’t change that I still said something untrue about her.

if you made sense of that advice might help? Idrk what helps anymore I’ve been talking to my therapist abt lying and stuff but it’s just so ugh… idek what to do. Hugs? Honestly I just want to like die and be reincarnated if that happens so I can do better. 
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Honestly I kinda want to die even if I’m not reincarnated

 

That's tough. *hug*

You didn't mean it. But it did hurt Sophia even though you didn't mean it. 

I think what you can do is apologize - to Sophia and also to Lee - and ask how you can help make it better. Whether they accept it or not is up to them. 

Possible advice to consider - but I don't know your friends, so take it or leave it, as it may not be a good idea.
Know what's really, really hard? Admitting that you lied right when you do it. Say the lie, realize you're supposed to not do that...and immediately, right then, say "Wait. I'm sorry. That wasn't true. This is actually what's true." The person/people you're speaking to will probably still get upset - but they'll also be able to see that you're working on it, and actively trying to get better about not lying. I don't know your friends; that might help them feel better about you. It might not. 

 

 

Oh wait! I came on to link the "off topic mental health" thread that Stormcursed got up and running. It's currently got the religion/subjective truth debate going. Anyone can feel free to pop in, whether to join the debate or just read for fun. 

 

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24 minutes ago, MirkerLurker said:

 

...geez. 

*hugs*

Can you ask your parents and psychiatrist about having a joint session? A session (or more) where your parents (maybe one at a time tho...) are there with you, and the psychiatrist helps guide the talk and provide professional commentary? Ask the psychiatrist first though, to see whether they think it would be helpful.

...i mean. we prolly would. soo. I'm amused at this problem.

 

That's tough. *hug*

You didn't mean it. But it did hurt Sophia even though you didn't mean it. 

I think what you can do is apologize - to Sophia and also to Lee - and ask how you can help make it better. Whether they accept it or not is up to them. 

Possible advice to consider - but I don't know your friends, so take it or leave it, as it may not be a good idea.
Know what's really, really hard? Admitting that you lied right when you do it. Say the lie, realize you're supposed to not do that...and immediately, right then, say "Wait. I'm sorry. That wasn't true. This is actually what's true." The person/people you're speaking to will probably still get upset - but they'll also be able to see that you're working on it, and actively trying to get better about not lying. I don't know your friends; that might help them feel better about you. It might not. 

 

 

Oh wait! I came on to link the "off topic mental health" thread that Stormcursed got up and running. It's currently got the religion/subjective truth debate going. Anyone can feel free to pop in, whether to join the debate or just read for fun. 

 

I did Lee is mostly mad at me bc Sophia’s her gf and Sophia said that just bc I’m working on it and that I apologized doesn’t mean I didn’t lie