Silly or Serious Feruchemical Powers

[Steel Speedster ♂]

Out of the sixteen atium alloys, the 16 lerasium alloys, and the 16 harmonium alloys, we only know the Feruchemical effect of one (atium-electrum stores youth.) This leaves a large number of unknown Feruchemical powers, even excluding alloys with non-Scadrian godmetals.

List ideas for Feruchemical attributes that you could store, whether they are serious ideas, or just silly!

I'll start with a few:

Size: storing size makes you shrink, which can allow you to fit through smaller areas. Tapping size makes you bigger, which proportionately increases your strength and weight.

Velocity: storing velocity slows you down (but can only be stored if you're moving.) Tapping velocity accelerates you in the same direction.

Happiness: storing happiness makes you sad. Tapping happiness makes you happy!

Edited August 2, 2024 by Speeding Steelrunner

[Quantus he/him]

Storing Grace, as a very Physically focused alloy-tangent of Fortune.

Storing Skills, as in trained abilities, muscle memory, craft skills, etc which you cannot store in Copper (currently).

Storing Organs, as in storing the spiritweb sDNA for specific physical organs, limbs etc, as a means of transferring anything from basic organs like a kidney (feruchemcial organ donation) to the transfer foreign parts whole like Gemhearts or the extra limbs of the Sho Dal.  Storing would cause it to whither to nothing, Tapping would cause it to physically manifest like a Form Change.  Storing is a difficult, extended process because of the sheer amount of Investiture involved. 

[CtrlAltDepressed]

I think that you should be able to store time. 

 

Atium-Electrum allows you to store youth, but thats not what I'm going for here. 

 

When storing time, you would essentially be your own cadmium bubble. Then you could tap it to be your own bendalloy bubble. 

 

I think the pure form of Atium or another alloy of Atium would make this possible.  

 

A time compounder would be able to store incredible amounts of time and would make storing other attributes much more efficient. Now they can not only compound the attributes that they store but they can further compress the time needed to store those attributes.

Edited August 2, 2024 by CtrlAltDepressed

[Duxredux he/him]

TotES spoilers: 

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We know that a sense of humor, decorum, etc. are valid targets for Investiture based on Hoid's curse. My top is the ability to store and tap a sense of humor among the other senses Hoid had been deprived of.

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We also know that emotions are valid targets from Soothers but also the Heart of the Revel. Being able to actively store specific emotions could be useful in a universe with this kind of manipulation.

We don't have a Lightweaving equivalent for Feruchemy, so why not storing Light or Sound? They can already store heat. There's all sorts of applications for that.

As the compliment (even though I don't think they're related like this) let's have them store their shadow and be able to spawn Midnight Essence when tapping.

 

[alder24]

18 minutes ago, Duxredux said:

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We don't have a Lightweaving equivalent for Feruchemy, so why not storing Light or Sound? They can already store heat. There's all sorts of applications for that.

As the compliment (even though I don't think they're related like this) let's have them store their shadow and be able to spawn Midnight Essence when tapping.

 

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Sound is fine, just like heat, it’s generated by your body, But light? Not that much. You do generate some infrared light, but nothing in the visible spectrum. However Lightweavers can manipulate non-visible light too, so maybe? But it would take a loooot of storing to make it visible.

However, generation of light is tied to heat - the hotter an object is, the higher frequency light it generates due to black-body radiation. If you increase the temperature of your body to above 525°C, it will start glowing red.

As for shadow, it's just an absence of light and Midnight Essence aren't shadows.

 

[Quantus he/him]

24 minutes ago, Duxredux said:

TotES spoilers: 

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We know that a sense of humor, decorum, etc. are valid targets for Investiture based on Hoid's curse. My top is the ability to store and tap a sense of humor among the other senses Hoid had been deprived of.

SA spoilers

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We also know that emotions are valid targets from Soothers but also the Heart of the Revel. Being able to actively store specific emotions could be useful in a universe with this kind of manipulation.

We don't have a Lightweaving equivalent for Feruchemy, so why not storing Light or Sound? They can already store heat. There's all sorts of applications for that.

As the compliment (even though I don't think they're related like this) let's have them store their shadow and be able to spawn Midnight Essence when tapping.

 

Feruchemy can really only store internal things (with the possible exception of spiritual things like Connections) so I dont think they can store Light in any meaningful way since our eyes are really the only interaction we have with actual Light.  But storing and tapping "Voice" might be viable, either manifesting as raw Volume or as increased Vocal Control (which paired with Tin for a good Ear could become very powerful in manipulating auditory resonance.   

[Cash67]

40 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Feruchemy can really only store internal things (with the possible exception of spiritual things like Connections) so I dont think they can store Light in any meaningful way since our eyes are really the only interaction we have with actual Light.  But storing and tapping "Voice" might be viable, either manifesting as raw Volume or as increased Vocal Control (which paired with Tin for a good Ear could become very powerful in manipulating auditory resonance.   

gosh dang I want that power

[Steel Speedster ♂]

1 hour ago, Quantus said:

Feruchemy can really only store internal things (with the possible exception of spiritual things like Connections) so I dont think they can store Light in any meaningful way since our eyes are really the only interaction we have with actual Light.  But storing and tapping "Voice" might be viable, either manifesting as raw Volume or as increased Vocal Control (which paired with Tin for a good Ear could become very powerful in manipulating auditory resonance.

Maybe it could be storing reflected light: storing 100% would make you completely dark, which would be useful for sneaking. Tapping would release the light, making you glow, which you could use to illuminate a dark area or blind someone in a fight.

[Quantus he/him]

2 minutes ago, Speeding Steelrunner said:

Maybe it could be storing reflected light: storing 100% would make you completely dark, which would be useful for sneaking. Tapping would release the light, making you glow, which you could use to illuminate a dark area or blind someone in a fight.

That would be weird on so many levels, but probably no weirder than the reality-bending Weight-storing that we still cant really explain.   I wonder if there'd be a use-case buried in there that could grant invisibility?    

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

I too have some ideas

Storing Flexibility: Make your muscles and joints stiff now to make them much more flexible later. Would probably stack well with F-Pewter. Maybe is an Atium-Pewter alloy?

Storing Sensation: Enhances your ability to feel emotions, storing would make you somewhat sociopathic and tapping would make you have wild mood swings. Could be useful for either hiding from or attracting Cognitive Entities. Maybe an Atium-Zinc alloy?

Storing Sensory Processing: Doesn't make your senses better per say, just allows you to process them better. Tapping would make it easier to use your sight to pick things out, like solving a word puzzle in a few seconds. Would affect all other senses similarly. Storing would give you literal tunnel vision. Would be an Atium-Tin alloy without a doubt.

Storing Rigidity: A bit of a weird one, storing would make your whole body softer, your bones would bend instead of breaking and that sort of stuff, would not protect your organs and would mess with your body structure, but there could be some use. Tapping would make your body more rigid, brittle even. If someone punched you while you tapped lots your body might crack like stone. I dunno this one seems weird.

Storing Toughness: A lot simpler than the above, storing makes your body more fragile and tapping makes you harder to hurt. Atium-Gold? Probably not since Sazed would have figured that out.

Storing Realmatic Awareness: This is a really weird one, we know that people can peer into the Cognitive Realm under certain circumstances, usually when they die or are crazy and Spiked, so this would just help you adjust that without the dying or spiking part. Storing would have you become less aware of the Physical Realm? While tapping enough would let you see into the Cognitive Realm at various levels, like from 'Spook seeing Kelsier' level to literally seeing into the Cognitive Realm itself as if you were there. Atium-Duralumin alloy? 

Storing Spiritual Heritability: Ehh, really dunno about this one, storing while conceiving a child would have that child be less likely to inherit your Spiritual Genes, while Tapping would make them inherit more? Lots of ethical weirdness for this one, though if one was a Ferring with this power, tapping wouldn't make your children become a Full Feruchemist, it would just guarantee that they become a Ferring. Maybe Atium-Nicrosil alloy?

Anyway that's all I can think of for now.

[Steel Speedster ♂]

7 hours ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

I too have some ideas

Storing Flexibility: Make your muscles and joints stiff now to make them much more flexible later. Would probably stack well with F-Pewter. Maybe is an Atium-Pewter alloy?

Storing Sensation: Enhances your ability to feel emotions, storing would make you somewhat sociopathic and tapping would make you have wild mood swings. Could be useful for either hiding from or attracting Cognitive Entities. Maybe an Atium-Zinc alloy?

Storing Sensory Processing: Doesn't make your senses better per say, just allows you to process them better. Tapping would make it easier to use your sight to pick things out, like solving a word puzzle in a few seconds. Would affect all other senses similarly. Storing would give you literal tunnel vision. Would be an Atium-Tin alloy without a doubt.

Storing Rigidity: A bit of a weird one, storing would make your whole body softer, your bones would bend instead of breaking and that sort of stuff, would not protect your organs and would mess with your body structure, but there could be some use. Tapping would make your body more rigid, brittle even. If someone punched you while you tapped lots your body might crack like stone. I dunno this one seems weird.

Storing Toughness: A lot simpler than the above, storing makes your body more fragile and tapping makes you harder to hurt. Atium-Gold? Probably not since Sazed would have figured that out.

Storing Realmatic Awareness: This is a really weird one, we know that people can peer into the Cognitive Realm under certain circumstances, usually when they die or are crazy and Spiked, so this would just help you adjust that without the dying or spiking part. Storing would have you become less aware of the Physical Realm? While tapping enough would let you see into the Cognitive Realm at various levels, like from 'Spook seeing Kelsier' level to literally seeing into the Cognitive Realm itself as if you were there. Atium-Duralumin alloy? 

Storing Spiritual Heritability: Ehh, really dunno about this one, storing while conceiving a child would have that child be less likely to inherit your Spiritual Genes, while Tapping would make them inherit more? Lots of ethical weirdness for this one, though if one was a Ferring with this power, tapping wouldn't make your children become a Full Feruchemist, it would just guarantee that they become a Ferring. Maybe Atium-Nicrosil alloy?

Anyway that's all I can think of for now.

Cool ideas! Don't flexibility and rigidity seem essentially like opposites?  Storing one seems basically the same as tapping the other.

(Also, I don't think the Feruchemical atium-alloys have abilities related to the base metal's ability. The one example we have is youth, which is completely unrelated to its base metal counterpart, which stores determination.)

I'll throw out a few more ideas:

Storing Volume: storing would make you deflate and collapse in on yourself. Tapping would make you inflate like a balloon, becoming bigger, but not gaining mass.

Storing Likeability: storing makes everyone dislike you. Storing at high enough levels might inspire hatred and make people try to kill you. Tapping makes everyone like you more.

Storing Importance: storing makes everyone disregard and ignore you. Tapping makes everyone notice you more and value your opinion.

[+Lewis Nethur He/Him]

This was actually a pretty funny thread; on that note: Atium+Chromium definitely stores one's sense of irony and humor and I would gladly fight and die on that hill.

Store to be as dry, sober, and serious as batman. Tap to see the world from the eyes of The Comedian from the Watchmen.

[SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword]

Flatulence. The ability to store/tap farts. Likely the atium/cadmium alloy.

Tangibility. Store to become less interactive with physical objects. Tap to prevent other things from phasing through you. Can't phase through aluminum. Also, while intangible you will just fall into the ground because gravity still works. It's basically like being in Scadrial's Cognitive realm. Probably atium/iron alloy.

Edited August 4, 2024 by SwordNimiForPresident

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

16 hours ago, Speeding Steelrunner said:

Cool ideas! Don't flexibility and rigidity seem essentially like opposites?  Storing one seems basically the same as tapping the other.

Firstly, thanks. Second about Flexibility and Rigidity. Flexibility is all about your muscles and joints while Rigidity is about how solid or fluid your body structure is. There is some strong overlap, yes. But I'll be honest these were just spitball ideas.

16 hours ago, Speeding Steelrunner said:

(Also, I don't think the Feruchemical atium-alloys have abilities related to the base metal's ability. The one example we have is youth, which is completely unrelated to its base metal counterpart, which stores determination.)

Well, we don't know that for sure as we only have a single example. Not really a pattern, but if that is right then we don't need to justify what Atium-Alloy does what in Feruchemy! 

16 hours ago, Speeding Steelrunner said:

Storing Volume: storing would make you deflate and collapse in on yourself. Tapping would make you inflate like a balloon, becoming bigger, but not gaining mass.

Storing Likeability: storing makes everyone dislike you. Storing at high enough levels might inspire hatred and make people try to kill you. Tapping makes everyone like you more.

Storing Importance: storing makes everyone disregard and ignore you. Tapping makes everyone notice you more and value your opinion.

Volume seems interesting, though Likeability and Importance are kind of already under the banner of 'Connection' with F-Duralumin, though I suppose these are more 'specialized' than what Duralumin alone can do.

I wonder what would happen if you stored most of your likeability, then tapped a whole bunch of Connection to make friendships faster? Would every person you try to befriend act like a tsundere? That sounds hilarious. 

Another idea I just had: Friction, the ability how friction interacts with your body. Storing makes your body very slippery, while Tapping makes your body cling to stuff better, though I'm pretty sure this would be pretty annoying to use since you either might slip out of your clothes or they'd start chafing really bad.

[Steel Speedster ♂]

On 8/3/2024 at 11:52 PM, JustQuestin2004 said:

Firstly, thanks. Second about Flexibility and Rigidity. Flexibility is all about your muscles and joints while Rigidity is about how solid or fluid your body structure is. There is some strong overlap, yes. But I'll be honest these were just spitball ideas.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

On 8/3/2024 at 11:52 PM, JustQuestin2004 said:

Well, we don't know that for sure as we only have a single example. Not really a pattern, but if that is right then we don't need to justify what Atium-Alloy does what in Feruchemy! 

True. At the very least, I suppose they probably will conform to quadrants. Youth definitely seems to fit in the hybrid quadrant, which tends to contain weird physical powers, like health, nutrition, and breath.

On 8/3/2024 at 11:52 PM, JustQuestin2004 said:

Likeability and Importance are kind of already under the banner of 'Connection' with F-Duralumin, though I suppose these are more 'specialized' than what Duralumin alone can do.

They do. Those ones were mostly jokes, if it wasn't obvious.

On 8/3/2024 at 11:52 PM, JustQuestin2004 said:

Another idea I just had: Friction, the ability how friction interacts with your body. Storing makes your body very slippery, while Tapping makes your body cling to stuff better, though I'm pretty sure this would be pretty annoying to use since you either might slip out of your clothes or they'd start chafing really bad.

That would be really cool. It would have some really neat interactions with other powers. I've always wanted to be able to have a Twinborn with (SA spoilers:) 

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The Surge of Abrasion.

But yeah, the clothes would probably be annoying. If the clothes fitted you well enough, you probably wouldn't have to worry about sliding out though. You might need a full one-piece jumpsuit though. (Although if you're wearing that, you're pretty much negating the effect of being frictionless or extra friction-y. I suppose if you have bare hands and feet you could make use of it still.